Right, so we'll just assume they're not and retaliate for their lies by punishing them, because doing an actual investigation and actually dealing with the issue would make too much sense.

Yes she could have done a lot of things - leaving what we do not know aside such as witnesses and the details of the case she may have out right admitted it but does not mean she would not lie in any other situation? No..people react differently in different situations. Being in jail with the loss of freedom people look for any opportunity they can utilize to get ahead.

"So at the heart of your concern is money? That a woman who is sexually assaulted by the authority figures tasked to protect her would somehow get money for that assault"

You have no concept..no way of even coming close to understanding how absurd 20 million compensation is for this case, the courts who deal with this thing a lot do though,hence the case was laughed out of court.

"I believe that until consequences, that outweigh any potential benefits, are levied against an offending party, they will continue to engage in said behavior."

If this were true there would not be any cases like this because prisons would be empty.

She still could have lied and said she found him that way and tried to revive him. She could have screamed self-defense. She could have done a lot of things but she admitted it.

"Do you assume all rapists are bad people?"

I assume all rapists are self-involved assholes with very little to no regard for the bodily autonomy of others... I don't necessarily assume they're also liars.

"I wonder what she would have done if she had won her $20 million lawsuit, a holiday or two?"

So at the heart of your concern is money? That a woman who is sexually assaulted by the authority figures tasked to protect her would somehow get money for that assault? What other renumeration and consequences would you suggest/approve?

I believe that until consequences, that outweigh any potential benefits, are levied against an offending party, they will continue to engage in said behavior. These are basic principles of behavioral learning as well as economics. Until the penal system has REAL consequences for ignoring the assaultive behaviors of it's employees toward it's charges, the policies facilitating the actions of these sociopaths will remain in place... resulting in further assaults.

The constitution is a very important thing but i was saying screw the constitution in relation to "There is no crime for which sexual assault is a constitutionally acceptable punishment". There is no thing on earth that makes assault acceptable period. That does not need to be backed up with the constitution (Y).

"They have a right to tell authorities about being a victim of sexual assault, even if it’s by the very folks who are supposed to ENFORCE THE LAW. You can’t just dismiss their accusations because they commited a crime themselves"

I agree they do have the right how ever i have faith in the authorities and do not think they will dismiss accusations at the drop of a hat-if thats your belief i can understand your frustration.They are the ones spending time with this women its there judgment to make.

"Hell, she ADMITTED to stabbing him in the neck… if anything this would be evidence that she’s NOT a liar."

She was found covered in his blood there was zero escape - we do not know what she would have done if she had the option of getting away with it.

"Alas, for simple and bigoted minds it’s certainly easier to just ASS-ume that all people who commit crimes are just all around bad people. This is similar to arguments where sexually active women are blamed for their rapes…"

Do you assume all rapists are bad people? In my view people who commit crimes are either bad people or people who have made bad choices - there are situations in this world that would turn any one into what would be termed as a "criminal".

"Ah, so, we can trust convicted drug dealers, and money launderers and conspirators to point the finger at others and the accusations carry enough weight to have innocent peoples houses broke into , and have them arrested, dogs shot, etc., but if the same people accuse a jail guard for sexual assault, well, they have no credibility."

No,people in prison never lie and point the fingers at others in the hope of personal gain,they never lie about assault and treatment either!

I wonder what she would have done if she had won her $20 million lawsuit, a holiday or two?

The authoritys will not be taken for a fool and cleaned out in the same way a husband can be;)

Thanks your your time.

Either criminals have credibility or they don't, you can't take their word for it against a typical citizen but then call them liars when they accuse those that are part of the system.

It is a ridiculous stance that somehow strapping on a funny uniform and a tin badge all the sudden makes you beyond reproach.

This is a logical fallacy known as argumentum ad hominem.

Just because a person is or did one thing doesn't mean they do or are these other things. Hell, she ADMITTED to stabbing him in the neck... if anything this would be evidence that she's NOT a liar.

Alas, for simple and bigoted minds it's certainly easier to just ASS-ume that all people who commit crimes are just all around bad people. This is similar to arguments where sexually active women are blamed for their rapes... "well, she sleeps with other guys so she MUST have consented to sleep with that guy too..." or, "she's fucked other guys so she should have to fuck me too."

And if it's found that their accusations are false (after a COMPLETE investigation), THEN you can start disciplinary actions against the accuser. But not before. This is why you can't just forget the constitution. It was written for everyone, and that includes folks convicted of crimes.

Forget the constitution - there is no time its acceptable for anything on any level.It does take place in prisons how ever the kind of people that make up a % of the prison population self evidently are not to be trusted..if accusations are made and can not proven after an investigation i fully understand why the prison would place the accuser in isolation,it makes it a lot harder for them to go on causing problems.

"And of course, no man with incredible authority over a woman has ever taken advantage of that authority to demand or force sexual contact, ever."

This is completely irrelevant and has nothing to do with it(Y)Females with incredible authority over males that take advantage of there authority and demand or force sexual contact exist yet not every single allegation of that happening is true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!