The Sexist

Sexist Beatdown: “So I Was Inserting The Female Condom Into My Vagina” Edition

It's all female condom all the time this week on the Sexist. Female condom in a rubber vagina! Female condom in the anus! But despite the exhaustive orifice coverage (do not insert the female condom into your mouth!), questions remain. Like, what does illustrious ladyblogger Sady Doyle of Tiger Beatdown think about putting the female condom into her vagina? And so on. In this edition of Sexist Beatdown, join Sady and I as we wipe off our female-condom-pre-lubed hands (pictured), prep our vaginas for FC2 landing, and get down to ladybusiness.

AMANDA: Sorry I'm late: I was inserting my female condom in anticipation of having sex up to eight hours from now.

SADY: Amanda, you know how much I value our friendship. Which is why I want you to understand something. PLEASE NEVER SAY THE PHRASE "I WAS INSERTING MY FEMALE CONDOM" EVER EVER AGAIN.

AMANDA: Deal. But the next 30 minutes of this female condom chat are going to be excruciating for me.

SADY: It's hard for me to think of "female condom chats" WITHOUT thinking "excruciating." I know I am judgey and a poor former condom merchant and/or safe sex advocate for feeling this way.

AMANDA: Hey Sady, we're just two ladies hanging out talking frankly about our vaginas. The most natural thing for two women to talk about! (Actually we have talked a lot about vaginas, I am realizing, in this series).

SADY: Well, I guess we... have them in common? Okay, let's talk about something that is NOT vaginas. Let's talk about dicks. Because here's how I feel about dicks.

AMANDA: I'm listening.

SADY: HERE'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT DICKS! Dicks don't get pregnant. Dicks don't get their periods. Dicks don't get ANYTHING except boners, and also occasionally hilarious Hits in the Crotch on old episodes of America's Funniest Home Videos.

AMANDA: Haha, yeah!


SADY: Dicks have like one responsibility in the world, which is to put condoms on themselves when they are having the penetrative intercourse. AND NOW THEY'VE PUT THAT ONE ON US TOO?

AMANDA: Yes they have! And women around the world are as skeptical as you are. The thing about the female condom is that it's really great for women who can't force their male partners / clients whatever to use the male condom, and so they need a first line of defense.

SADY: Yeah. Fair enough.

AMANDA: For women who don't have that very terrible problem, though, I'm not seeing it really catching on? However, I have this idea that I would like to sell to the female condom manufacturers, which is that they give a grant to porn manufacturers who will work to eroticize the female condom in their work. So then one day like 10 years from now, old people will be like, "what are these 'money shots' and 'bikini waxes' and 'female condoms' the young kids are using nowadays?" And then there will finally be gender equity in condom sales.

SADY: Wow. Porn truly does solve everything! But can we go back to that "you won't put on a condom and we need a barrier/STD-preventing method" thing?


SADY: Because here's my theory: You, A Dude, want to sleep with me. I, A Lady, am not sure if we are monogamous and/or STD free. You are like, "but baby, why can't YOU put this bag up your bits?" I am like, "this is the quickest I have ever lost interest in a sexual encounter. See you later, dude!" Like: If you are not responsible enough to wear the condom, you're not responsible enough to be having sex with me, basically.

AMANDA: Yeah. I have never heard of a man who would prefer the lady coat her vagina with a bag? But I did speak to one man who has sex with men who has used the female condom, and he had this to say about it: "When I’ve been a top—the insertive partner—what I’ve liked about the bottom wearing the device is that my penis wasn’t wrapped in plastic.” So, there's that.

SADY: I mean, okay. Sure. I get that. Did your interview subject mention the fit issues? I mean, I hear it fits well, but the thing I have always admired about condoms — the skinny jeans of the birth control world — is that they are so specifically tailored. Does the female condom, according to your journalistic research, share this virtue?

AMANDA: OK, so I'm not going to repeat the phrase that must never be repeated.


AMANDA: But I did shminshmert the shmemale shcondom the other day, when I was, you know, just hanging out and bein' a lady, and it does, like shconform to the insides of your shvagina.

How to shminshmert the female condom

SADY: Okay, so here's the thing: you like put it in and then hang out, though? Like, actually that might be a virtue! Because you don't have to go through that "oh crap where are the condoms rummage rummage rummage HANG ON additional rummaging" deal.

AMANDA: Well, you don't have to hang out, but you can hang out. (Up to eight hours before intercourse!) I mean, personally, I never really stopped feeling it so I wouldn't exactly suggest it. But maybe you get used to it. The thing is, nobody like, actually prefers sex with a condom, but it's a necessity in a lot of sexual situations, and it's conceivable that some couples might prefer the female condom. I just think it's really difficult to get that trend to pick up enough speed that those specific people a) actually try the condom and b) feel comfortable using it.

SADY: Oh, sure. And let me respond to your very serious and useful and responsible point with this: I am one of those people who occasionally gets all "OH WHAT THE CRAP WHERE ARE MY GLASSES," and looks for them for about fifteen minutes, and then looks at A MIRROR, and is like, "oh." I have looked for my headphones whilst wearing my headphones. If I ever shminsmerted the shmemale shmondom, basically it would be in there for life, is what I'm saying. I would seriously forget about it.

AMANDA: Yeah, the other thing is, like, peeing? You will have to pee at some point.

SADY: Oh, yeah, THAT.

AMANDA: Because it's really a full-coverage device, so I imagine it would get some pee on it? Perhaps there is some sort of accessory you can buy that aids in that process.

SADY: God. Somehow this ends with people getting like a female condom and one of those Shenis things you pee through and vajazzling ALL OF IT and... So yeah, I think we've established that I am one of those backward ladies that is like, "a FEMALE condom? Never!" Although, yeah, new barrier methods are good. That's undeniably true. And now, based on my reactions, I can see what it would be like to be one of those "I hate condoms" dudes. I HAVE BECOME THE THING I HATED.

AMANDA: And now I know what it's like to walk around with a condom in my vagina. Minimum rustling, I must say!

SADY: Okay, like, I have to say... Nobody is making these dudes put the condoms on over their lunch breaks so that they can come and have sexy dates with us later.

AMANDA: That's the weirdest thing about the female condom promotion, to me: They say that because you can pre-insert it, it "doesn't interrupt lovemaking." But it interrupts, like, other shit? Like my lunch break, or my peeing schedule, or what have you.

SADY: Yeah. I mean, I think your idea for a line of Female Condom-Centric Porn is actually a good one. Because right now this is like the least erotic idea in the world. But... dude condoms weren't initially perceived as a great idea, EITHER?

AMANDA: Right.

SADY: Like, I read this old issue of I think Cosmo from the sixties or seventies once, for a feminist media project, and it had this "revolutionary" article about all the different kinds of birth control there were. And condoms were mentioned. And the article, AS I RECALL (I am not quoting) was like, "I know you think these are for prostitutes, but you can use them too," and also they interviewed a guy who had tried this Strange New Birth Control Method, and he was like, "OMG so unnatural! Like having sex with a garbage bag!" And now it's just like... condoms, you know? They're at Duane Reade, they're understood to be commonplace, and nobody wants to hear you whine about them. Like I said: The very NOTION of a condom that I myself might wear has somehow transformed me into a person who thinks like a gross-ish dude.

AMANDA: Yes. And either you'll look back on this moment 30 years from now and say, "That is the moment I officially became an old person who is resistant to change," or, "That is the moment I officially became an old person because I even know what a female condom is, and no young people have ever heard of that shit, in the Future." Time will tell!

SADY: Right. When we're all wearing our Holo-Helmets and having Virtual Sex on our Google Entire Fake Universe Dates, the female condom, and indeed the male one, will be unnecessary. I for one look forward to that day.

  • love

    peeing schedule?
    but yeah, i say this as a guy, if a man can don a condom, leave him by the wayside.

  • Amanda Hess

    Peeing schedule. I got it marked on my Google calendar.

  • monkeyrotica

    Step 2 for the porn industry: eroticising dental dams.

  • Jemima Aslana

    Okay, so you can pre-insert. That's cool. What, then, if you're one of these fancy modern sexy-fun people who like to maybe get a little active with the fingery fun? You know... before the PiV-action starts. Wouldn't it be sorta awkward with your partner's digits working furiously inside a plastic bag? And wouldn't it be rather pointless, too?

    I don't think I've ever had a sexual encounter that wasn't initiated with some strategically placed digits on carefully selected body-parts, and which would have been a hell of a lot weirder if said body-parts were wrapped in rubber. Sort of like the male condom didn't go on til after the handjob.

    Additional question - if a female lubes up pretty well naturally - isn't there a pretty big risk that the femdom will just slip on out during the action? Just wondering...

    Nyeh. Either way - I'm not gonna be using it. I stick weird things in and on my genitals several days a month (san pads and tampons, in case anyone was wondering), is it too much to ask that guys be the ones to reciprocate, when we have sex? I don't think so.

  • DEE

    So, Imagine if the material of the male condom when coming in contact with the material in the female condom caused a reaction where the results was a vibration or tingling and an erotic sweet smell was given off! That would up the use,so to speak, on both sides. Thoughts? The Incredible Fe-Male De Yum Performing Condoms!

  • wellhello!

    how does lubrication work with these things? Do you have to put lube inside it? Do the lady bits somehow wet the bag? I don't think I understand how this would feel for a guy...

    I'm honestly of the opinion that if a guy won't wrap it he can't have sex with me.

  • jules

    Hey Amanda:
    Just wanted to put it out there for you and the readers, I gave it a shot.

    Pro: the dude liked it better than a male condom

    Con: totally felt like I was putting a trashcan liner in my vag.

    Survey says? Eh. Back to the male condom.

  • Dorothy

    Oh, my. *wipes tears from her eyes and tries to get her laughter under control*
    I love you two.

  • jane

    Question: Can you use the female condom to have non-messy sex while on your period? Will it accomplish that? If so, that would be a major selling point for me, but only during that week.

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  • Melissa

    Another question: does sex hurt less with the female condom? I imagine it would be a lot less chafe-y...

  • polesversusholes

    (SADY: "Dicks have like one responsibility in the world...")

    Well actually... Pussies don't initiate. Pussies don't buy dinner. Pussies don't even pull off their own darn panties. Pussies don't do anything, but moisten and also occasionally make hilarious farting noises at unfortunate times. So this must be pussies punishment for being so lazy. LMAO.


    Maybe we could just make a deal. Every time a SHE takes the lead he'll wear his MAN CONDOM. Every time a HE take the lead she'll wear her WOMAN CONDOM.

    Nah! That's too reasonable. Let's get back to see who can whine the loudest!!!!

  • Yaz

    'Well actually… Pussies don’t initiate. Pussies don’t buy dinner. Pussies don’t even pull off their own darn panties.'

    Do you only date in 90s sitcoms? Everything you have stated is a tired old cliche of the realm of poorly written half hour comedies. It is also untrue.

    'Let’s get back to see who can whine the loudest!!!!'

    Oh, you already won that one. Be proud. Now run along, adults are talking.

  • polesversusholes

    Men taking the lead is such a cliche that you won't mind abiding by this rigggghttt?

    Every time a SHE takes the lead he’ll wear his MAN CONDOM. Every time a HE take the lead she’ll wear her WOMAN CONDOM.

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    As for whining... the best I could do on this thread is Bronze

  • jules

    @Jane: you can also try "Instead" softcups. They sell them at CVS. You can leave them in for 12 hours and have sex...score! still have to wear a condom to prevent the spread of STDs, though.

    @Melissa: Definitely less chafey.

  • jr

    Just a thought, from someone who works for a pro-sex organization and often talks about sex and hands out safer sex materials: I'm trying really hard to switch from saying "female condom" to "internal condom" because it's not just females (biologically speaking) or women (gender-identity speaking) who use them! Yay for inclusive language!

    And @Melissa, if you're chafing add some more lube! Condoms suck up moisture, so lube is your friend.

  • Jason

    If you ignore the "pussies don't buy dinner..." there's actually a nugget of progress towards equality in polesversusholes' post:

    "Every time a SHE takes the lead he’ll wear his MAN CONDOM. Every time a HE take the lead she’ll wear her WOMAN CONDOM."

    This is great, matching up with "the person who asks the date pays for dinner" rule. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater because polesversusholes' framed it rather tastelessly.