The Sexist

Date Rape Anthem: 7 Year Bitch’s “Dead Men Don’t Rape”

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OK. It's about time these Date Rape Anthems got down to serious business:

Date Rape Anthem: 7 Year Bitch's "Dead Men Don't Rape," another in our anti-rape anthem series, obviously. Thanks to commenter Shannon Drury for the tip.

Relevant Lyrics: Oh hell let's just hear all of them!

You ain't got the right tellin' me I'm uptight
And I'm not obligated to give in cause you're frustrated
No, my revenge is death, cause  you deserve the best
And I'm not turned on by your masculinity
Dead men don't rape

I don't have pity, not a single tear
For those who get joy from a woman's fear
I'd rather get a gun and just blow you away
Then you'll learn firsthand
Dead men don't rape

You're getting sucked into society's sickest
Don't go out alone you might get raped
But not by a dead man 'cuz
Dead men don't rape

You ain't got the right tellin' me I'm uptight
Dead men don't rape

So, What Do We Do With This One? "Dead Men Don't Rape" endorses similar anti-rape tactics to one of our previous date rape anthems, the Raveonettes' "Boys Who Rape (Should All Be Destroyed)": death and destruction for the world's rapists. But there are aesthetic differences. While The Raveonettes' dreamy indie pop serenades listeners with the polite suggestion that boys who rape "should" be destroyed, 7 Year Bitch's rapist-elimination plan takes a more aggressive approach. Because vocalist Selene Vigil intends on shooting rapists dead before they can ever feign sexual "frustration" ever again. DEAD MEN DON'T RAPE.

For comparison:

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So, which do you think is a more effective anti-rape message:

(a) The Raveonettes' attempt to lull the listener into rape awareness.

(b)  7 Year Bitch scares-the-living-shit-out-of-you punk approach.

(c) Raveonettes until Memorial Day, 7 Year Bitch until Labor Day

(d) Neither. Violence is never the answer, mmkay?

(e) I don't care about rape! Why am I still reading this blog!

  • foreigner

    I don't really like the message «Dead Men don't rape». It's imlipcating, that all men are potentially rapists, and that's far from the truth. So i'm with The Raveonettes on this one. 'Cause, sure violence isn't the wrong thing against rapists, but it's wrong if you wanna use violence against humans just because they are «mens».

  • je di

    I don't see how Dead Men Don't Rape suggests that all men rape. I love this song, I also love Janie's Got a Gun and Date Rape Story. I love songs where the predator becomes the prey. I recently discovered a great site creativefolk.com She is a folk singer and she has a page that lists songs from various artists by the type of abuse the song is about. Some make me cry and some empower me. -j

  • kza

    Woman who rape are good to go.

  • http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/sexist Amanda Hess

    Tell that to Selene Vigil, kza. Good luck!

  • foreigner

    @je di I'm not so experienced in speaking or writing english, but i i will give it a try.
    The thing is, that the line "Dead men can't rape" itself is quite true. Dead men can't do anything no more. But the question i think there is is if you wanna say that. I think no. Why should it be necessary to say things like this? Like i sais, most men won't rape other humans. But this is what is suggested by this line: Men should be dead, because than they aren't able to rape anymore. No, rapists should be dead, because than they can't rape. The sentence is just not specific enough. And i stress that most men aren't the enemies of a feminist movement, they can evolve awareness of femiinist issues, as i think that most women need also to evolve an awareness on such issues. At least here in Germany it looks this way, but i think, when i look at society here or in the USA, it will not be very different in the States.
    So feminist issues should be communicated in a way that will not create resistances fpr men to show solidarity with struggling women or queers, that also means they shouldn't just be put under the general suspicision that they have the desire to rape a women.
    I hope my point get's a bit clearer, otherwise just ask, i will try to explain it again then.

    And anyways thank you very much for the link, haven't seen it before but looks great.

  • Jenny

    Foreigner, the song is addressed to the particular man who raped or attempted to rape the singer/writer. She is saying, "You tried to rape me, so I am going to kill you. Then you won't be able to rape me or anyone any more." She uses the general phrase "dead men don't rape" but the context of the song shows that she isn't saying all men are rapists or that all men should be killed.

  • foreigner

    Thanks Jenny, just didn't get this part of the lyrics. But it's still wrong to you the phrase imo. It has been used here in Germany after a case of rape in an antifascist group in Berlin and some people meant it like that, because of that i don't really like to hear it.

  • http://twitter.com/BasketCasey basketcasey

    I commented on the last post about the Ravonettes but I think I entered too many characters copying and pasting the lyrics of "Spear and Magic Helmet" by the Gits causing it to not stick or something? I don't know. But 7 Year Bitch was immensely influenced by the brutal rape and murder of their friend Mia Zapata who fronted the Gits and sang plenty of anti-violence anthems.

  • kza

    I wouldn't want to tell her anything. What if she doesn't like smart ass comments and I get shot.

  • hosermax

    One of these days, both the author and many of the regular readers of this site will own up to the facts of rape, one of which is that many women fantasize about being raped. Often.

    Just Google "rape fantasy" and let the Denial begin.

  • chris

    I'm in the "violence is never the answer" school of thought, but I'd say the Raveonette's song's a little less... literal? about it? I mean, saying someone "should be destroyed" doesn't have the same connotation as specifically stating "I'ma keel you, here is how."

    I also just like that song better.

  • paprbgprncs

    Fugazi. Suggestion. From 13 Songs. Restored my faith in men (boys at the time) when I was 16. Thanks Ian.

  • kza

    Some woman fantasize about rape. So they are open game for raping? Hmmm I don't think it works that way...

  • http://twitter.com/JenJenRobot JenniferRuth

    hosermax - let me spell it out for you because it doesn't seem logic is your strong point. A rape fantasy is different from rape because no rape actually occurs. In a fantasy a woman can control every aspect of the sex that occurs and she can also consent to acting out a "rape" fantasy with a partner.
    With actual rape there is no consent and no control. It couldn't possibly be more different.
    If you have trouble with understanding this difference I would advise you to never, ever have sex with a woman.

  • je di

    Some men fantasize about getting peed on, should I assume that they want me to go pee on them whenever I want? Most kids in the US fantasize about a man in a red suit sneaking into their house once a year. As JenniferRuth said, Not only is the fantasy about rape just that a FANTASY it is completely different from the REALITY of rape. I have to wonder the motive of someone that trolls a gender issues blog to throw in vague, irrelevant & idiotic statements. I guess it serves a purpose to warn us that there are still grownups like this out there, unless you ARE a child? Then I'd see why reality is so hard for you. Geesh I'm glad my lovers have understood fantasy that'd be so boring if they didn't.

  • Jenny

    Hosermax, I don't think you will find many feminists who claim that women don't have rape fantasies. I do think most feminists would say that the existance of those fantasies does not make it ok for men to rape women. Feminists are so unreasonable and demanding that way.

    PS: Some men fantasize about being kicked in the balls...

  • http://shannondrury.blogspot.com Shannon Drury

    Thanks for the shout out and for the discussion! I especially love je-di's idea of peeing on any men in range. Delightful.

  • http://dannyscorneroftheuniverse.blogspot.com Danny

    Foreigner, the song is addressed to the particular man who raped or attempted to rape the singer/writer. She is saying, “You tried to rape me, so I am going to kill you. Then you won’t be able to rape me or anyone any more.” She uses the general phrase “dead men don’t rape” but the context of the song shows that she isn’t saying all men are rapists or that all men should be killed.

    That might not be the context but I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking that (especially with the "all men are potential rapists" types out there). Not to try to tell someone how to name their song but it would seem to me that "Dead Rapists Don't Rape" would be right to the point of the matter.

  • Anita

    @hosermax:
    Don't believe everything you read in the craigslist personal ads. Two men are on trial for rape, because one guy posted a fake ad about a rape fantasy (as if he were his ex-girlfriend) and another guy responded to the ad to carry out said fantasy. Hoser, dead men don't rape or have consensual relations. You should keep that in mind...and spend an evening watching "I Spit on Your Grave."

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