The Sexist

Sexist Comments of the Week: Do Drunk Girls Deserve to Get Raped?

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Last week, I wrote about some disturbing Internet comments posted in the wake of the Richmond gang rape that blamed the victim for drinking alcohol. The post inspired some really positive responses . . . and more disturbing Internet comments.

Alex makes the case for victim-blaming—at least girls will now know "the possible consequences of decisions." Decide to have a beer, maybe you'll get gang-raped: A valuable lesson for young girls:

In all fairness, just pointing out that she did not act in the most intelligent manner is NOT the same as saying she deserved it. You’re right, no one deserves to get raped, however, there IS the lesson here which is to be aware of your surroundings and of the possible consequences of decisions you make. Why SHOULDN’T this be used as a lesson. If one less girl decides maybe she shouldn’t have another drink or walk home alone because of this story, then at least we have gotten something out of this awful situation.

Joe commends Alex for his bravery, and agrees that one high school gang-rape ought to inspire women everywhere to stop drinking and never walk alone:

Yeah, I agree with the one brave person who pointed out that there is a difference between excusing criminals and blaming victims, on the one hand, and pointing out how to be safe, on the other. And you are not required to view everyone who comments as either feminist enough for you, or a hateful victim-blaming rapist-defender. Where is real life in this? In real life, unfortunately, we can’t just rail against the bad things people do and hope they will stop, we also have to conform our conduct to our knowledge that people do those bad things and are probably not going to stop. It is not excusing muggers to suggest someone stay out of the alley at 3 a.m. It is not excusing abusive cops to suggest someone cooperate with the police even when they have done nothing wrong. And it is not excusing rapists to suggest someone behave according to their knowledge that there are rapists.

Watch as BakinCookies inserts enough qualifying phrases to attempt to slide his or her victim-blaming past the censors:

Men need to learn how to respect Women better and with that said, Women also need to learn how to have respect for themselves and their bodies! This applies to this article in so many ways, im doubting it was consensual because she was beaten and robbed Therefore men should respect women more! But she could have been Flirting a little and tempting the men to force themselves on her. Either way someone or all of them were lacking respect in some way which totally sucks for the girl. But we will never know the whole truth cause people fabricate stories to fit their needs. Im not makin excuses for the boys im just sayin, Ladies respect yourselves And maybe men will respect you too.
Either way rape is rape and its not right!!

Jane, for one, doesn't see the difference between blaming the victim and blaming the perpetrators. Also, something about racism?

It’s funny how all the people who chide those who opportunistically use this terrible misfortune to lecture women on how to ‘behave’ themselves don’t hesitate to use this terrible misfortune to lecture others on how to raise boys, respect another gender, etc.

However, maybe this event had little to do with gender and respect for women. Maybe it had more to do with race. Maybe the attackers saw the victim mostly as a white person upon which to vent their hatred of whites. Likewise, maybe all of the people who walked by without care for the girl did so because they had no affinity with nor sympathy for a white person.

Maybe the lesson here isn’t how women should behave, or how boys should behave, but how minority groups (including whites among predominately black and latino persons) should be wary of those who aren’t their kind—because it’s all too for majority gangs to treat minorities as sub-humans unworthy of the most basic consideration and respect.

Of course, unlike the other moral instructions people are retrofitting to this event, one of race consciousness and caution isn’t a particularly trendy sermon to preach. So people instead will preach the sermons that will get them gold stars pasted on the foreheads by either their right-wing cohorts or their women’s studies professors.

Sarah suggests that rape can be solved with more rape:

I don’t know about anyone else, but at 15 I was drinking (mind you, at home, with my gal pals and my parents around). I don’t see anything wrong on her behalf. If these men (or were they her age?) get away with this, there is something seriously wrong with society and the judicial system. I hope (since I don’t pray) that she gets the best of mental health care to overcome this. And I hope those guys are anally raped by huge 12 inchers in prison thrice a day (:

B thinks the victim wanted it:

Rape is a crime, but girls are getting wild and boys will be boys no matter what. I know by fact that is part of the deal to be raped by all the gang member before you can get in!. Girls are playing strong games and now someone got hurt very bad and the news are not working with real facts. LETS GET THE FACTS FIRST! IS SHE CAPABLE TO SPEAK OUT AND FIND OUT MORE IF SHE WAS GOING TO BE PART OF THE GANG!! Our society is allowing to much violent shows on Television and part of that is the imitation of tv in real life.

And Johnny is sick of all of you people:

Why do you guys comment on this stuff? Why write long paragraphs about your supporting or differing opinions? It doesn’t do anything, it’s just a waste of time.

Photo via stevechasmar, Creative Commons Attribution License 2.0

  • recursiveparadox


    Reading the comments tends to give me the need to drink. Here's hoping nobody decides that's an excuse to rape me. >.<

  • Dorian

    Augh those comments. I especially am disturbed by the way Sarah feels her earnest wish for brutal rape to be administered as a corrective measure is best accentuated by "(:"

  • Kayla

    Wow. I can't even begin to fathom the mindset these people must have. What an obvious example of the way women are ostracized in society STILL. Rape is the fault, solely and completely, on the rapist, not the victim.

  • Ama

    You should be safe to drink. Why is no one saying "So, why did these men decide it was ok to rape someone just because she was intoxicated? Am I allowed to rape intoxicated people? Or rob them, hit them, abuse them in other ways?" These are stupid questions and the answers are obvious.

  • Patrick

    Honestly our media is saturated with women who have their breasts practically hanging out and women who wear really tight and really short shorts.

    This makes men think about sex constantly. Women should dress with looser fitting pants and looser fitting shorts and shirts that don't advertise their breasts.

    I don't care if women get rapoed because women constantly advertise the sexual aspects of their body and it keeps men in a constant state of sexual arousal. Its sadistic for women to dress like that.

    Women should wear normal clothes like the clothes men wear.

  • I_am_a_person_too

    WHAT THE FUCK Patrick?
    Get over yourself. You and every other "man" who thinks that women exist purely for your sexual needs. If it "hurts" you to see bare skin, (perhaps you should see a doctor because that's not normal) then here is a solution: Don't Look!

    We can cover up from head to toe but still be accused of being "too sexy" because of the crime of having breasts, hips and a waist, which, unless we're wearing a potato sack, are still going to be evident no matter how baggy our clothes (and believe me, I wear loose fitting clothes and all those things still show)

    You are not in a constant state of arousal. You are a sad pathetic little man who is pissed off that teh womenz have rights and now you can't rape them and then force them to make you a sandwich like you used to be able to. Some women probably once turned you down and now you hate women because of it. I bet I'm not too far off the mark there.

    Once again fuck you!

    And do see a doctor, that "constant state of arousal" is highly unnatural.

  • Patrick

    All I am asking women to do is to wear looser fitting clothes like the way men wear. You would think a man is ridiculous if he walks around in speedos bathing suit and a spandex shirt where-ever he went. But that is basically the way women dress in one way or another and it is ridiculous. Women turn themselves into sexual objects by the way they dress and because of that it doesnt bother me when they get raped by men who cant contol their impulses.

  • Amanda Hess

    Let's hope Patrick never gets jury duty.

  • Flutterby

    Patrick, are you kidding? If men dressed the way you (supposedly) want women to, you'd be beyond potato-sack-clad. No short sleeves for you; those biceps are just too appealing. And pull your pants up to around nipple-height; that inch of boxer waistband, or that strip of exposed skin when you lift your arms just makes me want to tie you up and shove your face into my crotch (not even joking). As for below the waist...well, by the very nature of male genitalia, we're going to have to bring back hoop skirts.