Drunk Girls Deserve to Get Raped
Don’t believe me when I say that people actually think drunk girls deserve to get raped? Let’s take the case of the 15-year-old California girl who was brutally gang-raped at her homecoming dance for hours in front of dozens of onlookers. Apparently, the victim had been drinking. For some people, that turns her horrific rape into a valuable morality tale that will put the fear into our nation’s drunk girls. Helpful Comments points us to some not-atypical online reactions to the story:
Good news, criminals: As long as everyone in your general vicinity is sippin’ on a beer, you may rape, murder, and pillage at your leisure!
Group drinking. That says it all. Booze will bring out the best in people. (yea go have another one) Perhaps the boys are not all to blame. The young lady had one too many.
Blame it on the alcohal:
I’m a 15 year old girl in New York, and I’m sorry to say this, but isn’t it possible that witnesses saw her get drunk with alcohal and belived she willingly participated as an effect? I’m sorry, but she shouldn’t have drunk alcohal to begin with. I’m not saying she deserved it, but she should’ve been much, much wiser. Getting a ride from dad was intelligent, but she should’ve kept to herself and concentrated on meeting her destination instead of hitting the beer at such a late hour, away from the gym. Agian, I’m this girl’s age, and I asure you that while I do sympathsize with the victim, she also has made very unwise mistakes on her part.
It’s official: “I’m not sayin’ it’s her fault . . . ” is the new “I’m not racist, but . . . “
wait wait wait…..she was drinking prior to this? hmmm. im not sayin its her fault or she deserved this or anything but shes 15 and drinking outside on a bench by herself in a dress….as much as people want this to be a perfect world, its not. what she was doin in the first place was asking for trouble. if your not gunna be smart about the choices you make, im not gunna feel bad for what happens. it sucks she was raped and she will never forget this and it will hurt her for the rest of her life, but come on lets be smarter than that.
One commenter took the presence of alcohol as an opportunity to float this theory: Even though the girl was gang-raped, beaten, robbed, and hospitalized, maybe it was SHE who raped THEM:
These poor misdirect young men will all be exonerated by the court when they get a good lawyer. Young men that are only guilty of allowing a girl that was drinking to take advantage of them. The reason no one went to call the police was that she was a willing participant. No more then that, she was the one who instigated the sexual activity. Why else would so many fine young men in that community be involved in such a heinous deed.
How about #7, NOBODY DESERVES TO GET RAPED YOU STUDPID IDIOT:
#1 Its Richmond High.#2 Its dark.#3 Your a 15 year old girl.#4 You accept the invite to go off in a dark area of campus and consume a larg amount of booze with a low life crowd.#5 Geeeeee, I got raped!#6 Duuhhhhh!These guys are low life scum bags, your 15 and you want to get drunk with them!YOU STUDPID IDIOT
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11:47 am
So the lesson other then don’t drink is that 15 year old girls in NY can’t spell?
11:53 am
Thanks for such good coverage, Amanda. I’m kind of appalled that I haven’t seen more about this. On the one hand, it’s so horrific that I can see where it’s a difficult subject to write/talk about, but I can’t understand why there isn’t more constant outrage about this. And thanks for being one of the first to comprehensively call out all the victim-blaming. The whole thing makes me absolutely sick. If a 15-year-old raped by several people, with tons of bystanders who did NOTHING, isn’t enough to outrage absolutely everyone who hears about it, I sort of despair for the future of humankind.
12:13 pm
I’ve been following this story all week on SFist and LAist and in the local papers (also I’m from CA and regularly read their news). The most sickening thing about this story are the countless number of people that may have seen what was happening and stopped to watch, but never once did it occur to them that they should have called 911. What goes through someone’s head when they see a scene like this? How would this not turn your stomach? And how could anyone have stopped to watch and NOT have thought, maybe this girl isn’t/wasn’t lucid enough to agree to participate in such a public spectacle. And bravo to the school for cutting security to save on OT. It is so incrediably sad to me that there are still boys that are so miswired that they would believe it was acceptable to behave like pigs. It’s wildly unrealistic to believe that the people who stopped to watch (if they can ever be identified) would be prosecuted the same way those sickos (if they are all caught) who participated are, and I’m sorry to say that even if they are caught, they may be let off the hook with nothing more than a slap on the wrist and community service (thanks to our glorious legal system). But hopefully they’ll get the short end of the karmic stick.
12:38 pm
Any person who behaves with self-respect and respect for others, does not have sex with any drunk person, period.
12:57 pm
Call me an optimist (I’m not), but I have a sneaking suspicion that the “she raped them” theorist was being sarcastic.
2:00 pm
Regardless of whether she was drinking or not, that is NO excuse for anyone to feel they have the right to have sex with you. If you read the articles, she was on her way to meet her father – she wasn’t taking a stroll through the courtyard looking for a group of guys to rape her. She probably knew them, was waiting for her father and figured they were friends and it would be harmless to have a drink as her father would probably be arriving any minute. At 15, and younger, kids are experimenting and doing things that they shouldn’t, that doesn’t mean let’s leave a 15 year old girl naked from the waist down UNCONSCIOUS under a bench! That is not consentual and that is not excusable regardless of whether she was drinking! No human being should be treated that way and left naked and unconscious. This whole thread is disgusting that people are blaming her for this happening! People need to go find some values and morals… this was barbaric and imagine if you had a daughter and this happened to her? Or like that other girl on here who posted about being 15 and maybe she was asking for it – well sweetie, I hope that you never attend a party with your friends and things get out of hand and you end up on some story news cast with the same thing happening to you. This can happen to anyone but it doesn’t make it excusable when a girl says no it’s NO! End of story!
2:01 pm
I had to stop going to cnn.com when this story aired cause it was on the home page. As a guy and a human, its just so sick to me that so many people watched and didn’t do anything. Even if she was a willing participant initially, you would think someone would have intervened. Makes my stomach churn.
2:06 pm
Well my brain just exploded with rage.
2:26 pm
Ok so I’d say when beaten and robbed get involved it stops being consensual. California does have some pretty twisted rape laws (if one party is above the legal limit, and the other is not, it is rape), this seems like a pretty clear cut case of the girl making a silly choice, and then having her life ruined for it by a gang of neandrathals.
3:09 pm
“shes 15 and drinking outside on a bench by herself in a dress… come on lets be smarter than that.” Victim-blaming aside, these people have a perplexing notion of personal security. Drinking OUTSIDE, in a DRESS? What rape prevention gear should she have worn, a firefighter-style coverall? If you’re wearing a dress, but with Spanx underneath, does it make you less likely to get raped? What if I’m sitting on a bench, but the bench is in a courtyard or vestibule? What if it’s on a screened-in porch? If I go outside with the flu, and I’m as groggy and disoriented *as if* I’d been drinking, is it then acceptable to rape me, or is there a loophole for that? Sheesh, it really would be simpler to just blame the rapists.
3:41 pm
Right. So, you’re allowed to go to your high school dance, as long as you don’t wear clothing appropriate for a high school dance? And as long as you don’t walk outside to leave the dance at a time when high school dances are generally finished(when it is dark outside)?
3:58 pm
In the numerous articles, it stated that she was left naked from the waist down, therefore, I don’t believe she was wearing a dress unless they ripped it at the waist. Dress or not, seems like if she were wearing pants it would’ve happened anyways. I’m just stunned that all the people that were standing around, other females had to be preseent, no one thought to intervene? That’s just sad that this is what our youth is being defined as. Is it really that cool to stand around and watch someone have this done to them and at no point did any of this seem wrong? I’m curious to read and hear more about this – a lot of missing pieces to this puzzle. Like if she was leaving to go meet her father for a ride home, how was this going on for 2.5 hours and no one thought to go looking for her when they tried calling her and kept getting her voicemail? If my dad were picking me up from a school dance at 15 and 30 minutes go by, my dad is coming to look for me. I just find it really hard to believe that this went on for TWO AND A HALF HOURS and no one stopped it or found them being that it was on school property. Those boys were really tough that night, having their way with her, I’m glad that they’re not so tough now being held and hopefully prosecuted at the maximum! They used foreign objects on her!? What is wrong with people!? Only one word comes to mind when thinking about all these guys involved – PIGS! I hope they get what they deserve!
4:07 pm
In all fairness, just pointing out that she did not act in the most intelligent manner is NOT the same as saying she deserved it. You’re right, no one deserves to get raped, however, there IS the lesson here which is to be aware of your surroundings and of the possible consequences of decisions you make. Why SHOULDN’T this be used as a lesson. If one less girl decides maybe she shouldn’t have another drink or walk home alone because of this story, then at least we have gotten something out of this awful situation.
4:10 pm
I’m not racist, but …
4:38 pm
Funny, Alex, I thought the lesson would be that a man who takes any sort of sexual advantage of a drunk woman ought to be castrated with a spoon.
By the way, this is several orders of magnitude worse than the bang-your-drunk-date scenario, so maybe you are confused or something.
4:39 pm
I agree that this SHOULD be used as a lesson – but I don’t feel it’s right to say “well, she drank with them so she must’ve wanted something to happen” approach here. Let’s not forget that she is 15 and regardless of whether or not she made a very bad decision, we don’t know the circumstances. My belief is that she knew these kids and trusted them, could they have been complete strangers, sure anything is possible. But when you go to school, going to parties is the norm and hanging out with your friends. All kids drink and experiment, that’s not to say that because she drank she caused herself to get drunk. If there were my daughter I would hope that I did a good job of raising her to be aware, but bad things happen. What about the jogger in Central Park, NY that was raped and killed while jogging! People are so quick to judge and point the fingers at what the girl did wrong but when will the men be held accountable and responsible for these types of brutal acts?? Was the Central Park jogger asking for it too by jogging in a very populated park? C’mon people… should the 15 year old been smarter, yes! But should this have happened to her, NO! Unfortunately, some of the best lessons we learn are through other people’s misfortunes. So I agree that we can and should make a lesson out of this but that doesn’t in any way mean that we should make light of what these guys did! No one asks to be brutal raped for over 2 hours and then tossed aside half naked and unconscious and left there! Where is the humanity! How would you feel if this was your cousin, niece or sister!? Would the circumstances be different if this were done to someone close to you and make you feel differently????
6:13 pm
I can’t believe that you can even publish this crap. You are absolutely ridiculous and I’m sure you would have a completely different opinion if it were someone you loved or cared about. I think you are an embarrassment to society! What a piece of crap! I hope you never go to a party and consume alcohol and are put in the same situation. Rape is a very serious thing and it happens too often. Once is too often!! This crap needs to be removed and so should you, from ever opening your mouth again!!
6:58 pm
I hate people.
7:06 pm
I’ve seen so many articles like this. I’m sick of rape apologists, victim blaming and all the injustice surrounding rape today. Basically this she-was-asking-for-it scenario is part of a cognitive distortion called “belief in a just world”.(Essentially: I’m a good person=bad things won’t happen to me, thus, bad things only happen to bad people=they deserved it.) It’s a dangerous assumption at the very least. Technically, it’s an error in person perception, which should be recognized and excluded from the media, and the justice system.
8:32 pm
Yeah, I agree with the one brave person who pointed out that there is a difference between excusing criminals and blaming victims, on the one hand, and pointing out how to be safe, on the other. And you are not required to view everyone who comments as either feminist enough for you, or a hateful victim-blaming rapist-defender. Where is real life in this? In real life, unfortunately, we can’t just rail against the bad things people do and hope they will stop, we also have to conform our conduct to our knowledge that people do those bad things and are probably not going to stop. It is not excusing muggers to suggest someone stay out of the alley at 3 a.m. It is not excusing abusive cops to suggest someone cooperate with the police even when they have done nothing wrong. And it is not excusing rapists to suggest someone behave according to their knowledge that there are rapists.
As for the person who said that those who believe “she was asking for it” have a just-world delusion: It is quite the opposite. It is the opposite of delusional to believe and say that women should look out for themselves and be smart because rapists will always be out there. It is, on the other hand, delusional to imply that women should be able to just do whatever they want and not worry about getting raped–it confuses what is right with what is.
9:08 pm
WHAT THE F@#! IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE??!!!
As if NONE of the people who have said HORRIBLE things on this blog have ever made a mistake?!?!
Ya, she drank to much, big deal. Most of us do at some point or another. IT’S LEGAL. NO, she wasn’t legal age to be drinking it, but it’s not an illegal substance.
NO WOMAN DESERVES TO BE RAPED-FOR ANY REASON.
It’s a DISGUSTING form of male domination and it repulses me that anyone would condone the rapists’ complete lack of MORAL decency because of her HER drinking. For shame.
Kitty Genovese psychology/Bystander effect is one of a hoard of reasons we are a shameful species.
That poor poor girl. She will live with this for the rest of her life. This could take her over and ruin her life. I truly hope she has the strength and courage to carry on.
9:40 pm
I don’t know about anyone else, but at 15 I was drinking (mind you, at home, with my gal pals and my parents around). I don’t see anything wrong on her behalf. If these men (or were they her age?) get away with this, there is something seriously wrong with society and the judicial system. I hope (since I don’t pray) that she gets the best of mental health care to overcome this. And I hope those guys are anally raped by huge 12 inchers in prison thrice a day (:
10:23 pm
People blame the victim because it lessens the horror of being able to identify with her. If they can believe that the girl made bad decisions, that she could’ve avoided it, or that her own choices put her in a position of “having it coming,” then they can go on believing that something like that could never happen to them. As bad as victim blaming is, and as much as it does to further the idea that rape can be avoided if women would just be smarter and more careful, victim blaming is also what allows a lot of people to walk down the street without constantly looking over their shoulder, and nobody wants to live with that kind of fear.
11:22 pm
Men need to learn how to respect Women better and with that said,
Women also need to learn how to have respect for themselves and their bodies!
This applies to this article in so many ways, im doubting it was consensual because she was beaten and robbed Therefore men should respect women more! But she could have been Flirting a little and tempting the men to force themselves on her. Either way someone or all of them were lacking respect in some way which totally sucks for the girl. But we will never know the whole truth cause people fabricate stories to fit their needs.
Im not makin excuses for the boys im just sayin, Ladies respect yourselves And maybe men will respect you too.
Either way rape is rape and its not right!!
11:47 pm
(((But she could have been Flirting a little and tempting the men to force themselves on her)))
That’s not making excuses? It sounds like making excuses.
12:05 am
The stupidity of some people. This is why teachers, parents, media, etc should talk about incidents like these with their family so they understand what they did wrong which WAS NOT DRINK TOO MUCH.
It’s so simple to see that the ones who put the fault on the victim would have been easily raped themselves. As if they know better, please. It’s so easy to insinuate and say what she did wrong but anyone can make a mistake. We don’t know much about the situation, and they could have easily been acquaintances of the poor girl.
I wish they knew how unintelligent they sounded. Morons.
12:53 am
“But she could have been Flirting a little and tempting the men to force themselves on her”
And the lessons go ’round and ’round. “Don’t drink, you might get raped! Don’t flirt, you might get raped! Don’t make eye contact, you might get raped! Don’t go outside, you might get raped! Don’t forget to lock the doors, you might get raped! You didn’t lock the windows too? Oh, you’re just asking for it now.”
2:23 pm
Do you remember the NY jogger gang rape a few years back?
The public outrage was loud and long. Is it because it was a brown on white crime? the victim was jogging, not drinking with her attackers? The victim in the Jogger case wasn’t wearing provocative clothing?
I would like to know why it is that women are so devalued in this society that they are told that they are “asking for it” if they wear a certain type of clothing. Men can’t control their criminal aggressive urges if they see too much cleavage? Women should anticipate being assaulted if they dare to walk out in the streets alone? Men can’t control their criminal aggressions if they see a lone female on the street so WE have to change our lives? Women can’t drink too much
for fear that someone will rape or assault her if she is incapacitated? Men can’t control their criminal aggressive urges so WE have to change our lives to accommodate THEM?
I find that all very interesting. We live in a culture of the invisible Chador. In Islamic countries, women must be covered and remain indoors lest men be unable to control themselves. In this country women don’t wear the Chador on the outside but on the inside. We are still allowed outside, but if we come to harm it must be our fault for letting the veil slip.
5:33 pm
Why assume that she drank to unconsciousness because she wanted to? We don’t know that. Maybe they shoved the bottle down her throat. Not unlikely, given what else they did.
Those of you who assume she inebriated herself are showing your bias towards blaming the victim. We don’t know.
5:38 pm
When I was a teen, I was chased by a bunch of guys. They didn’t catch me, but I saw up close the ugliness in their hearts and minds.
Those of you blaming her, need to look at the faces and hearts of those young men. Look deeply and you will see the real problem.
This girl went to her prom dressed in a purple satin prom dress with a sparkley necklace. Think of her pleasure at looking so pretty, her excitement about the dance. Then think of her lying curled and brutalized in the dirt after hours of being tortured – that is what rape is, a form of torture. That’s why it’s used in Iranian prisons. Torture is what really happened.
Sick, sick. What a shame and horror.
And to think that her dad was running around looking for her while this was going on.
6:24 pm
I am so saddened and sickened by all of this, and being clincally depressed right now, it almost sent me over the edge, because of how horrible human beings can be. I agree most with the person who posted this: “this she-was-asking-for-it scenario is part of a cognitive distortion called “belief in a just world”.(Essentially: I’m a good person=bad things won’t happen to me, thus, bad things only happen to bad people=they deserved it.)”
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Everyone [who is not a rapist] knows how revolting how disgusting, how awful this all is. I can’t even imagine it-actually, the sad thing is I can. I agree with the people who call it torture.
So….we are left with the misery that is out current world. And we feel powerless. We know that our duaghters, nieces, mothers, grandmothers, baby girls, friends–are all at risk. Tonight, this very night. My niece. My friend. My sister. It is too awful and upsetting and terrifying.
I was going to walk to the pharmacy to get some cold creme. Why walk? My car is not working. Why cold cream–I can’t take a showed without it–my skin is too dry. Wny this time of day? I was working all day. If I get raped, will you all blame me? Trust me–I do not want to get raped–but I need to live my life.
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What is frustating is knowing that some of these individuals will get away with it. I worry that this will embolden them to do something like it again.
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As far as the bystanders–please someone in power realize that they were accomplices–all the prosecutors and experts seem to be saying it is too hard to get the bystanders–but if they were blocking the view of the authorities; videotaping; perhaps with their talking or Ipods, perhaps they obscured her screams–is that not being an acocmplice? An accomplice makes the crime possible, no? It will be hard though, but the police can sometimes get these idiots to turn against each other, so maybe they will say, “Yea, well so-and-so was standing around the whole time! He was the look out.”
It’s tricky–if I see a car being stolen, and do nto actively try to stop it–am I an accomplice? No. But if I, with a group of others STAND IN A CIRCLE AROUND THE CAR WHILE IT IS EBING STOLEN SO THAT OTHERS CAN’T SEE–sounds like an accomplice to me.
6:32 pm
Sorry for all my typos….but I think what is the hardest for some people is to realize we do NOT live in a just world. And let’s be fair. If I say to my niece–do not drink at those dances; do not TAKE a drink from someone else; only drink from a soda can, not from the punch bowl; never go outside without your friends; only hang out with the boys you know are gay; stay inside until your Dad comes to pick you up–and she failed to do one of those things and was raped, would I blame her? No. I would feel and see and realize that this world is awful–dreadful, and there’s nothing we do can protect our dear ones.
Women–most women also know, that even if a female child does EVERYTHING “right”–she could still be raped by the custodian, her own father, the boy she thought was her friend, the neighbor, the security guard, her cousin, her father’s co-worker, the teacher, her friend’s older brother…the list goes on. This is the world we live in. It is so awful, we can hardly stand it. Bu you can’t put your daughters in a locked box. Don’t you want them to live full rich lives?
Someone earlier in these comments said it best–the CRIMINALS are taking advantage of our lack of outrag–until we have a zero tolerance policy about RAPE–the CRIMINALS will use ANY EXCUSE to rape, until ultimately, it comes down to–
You were born a woman, so I raped you. And nothing would have stopped me. Nothing.
6:33 pm
So, if women flirt with guys then that should lead to rape? So if his girl flirted with any of these guys, in your mind, it’s ok that they raped her? Are you kidding me? I don’t care if she drank and flirted and wore a mini skirt and had cleavage down to her knees……….. NO WOMAN SHOULD BE BRUTALLY RAPED AND LEFT UNCONSCIOUS AND NAKED UNDER IN A PARK AFTER BEING TORTURED FOR HOURS BY NUMEROUS PIGS TAKING THEIR TURNS AT RAPING HER!!! Is this what our society has come to? Blaming the woman for this happening or the “oh well she must’ve wanted it or must’ve been asking for it if she was flirting with them”. Have you forgotten what it was like to be young and have fun and go to dances and hang out with friends and drink a little and experiment? That is NO EXCUSE for that happened to her! No one deserves to be tortured that way – and have you read that they used foreign objects on her? I’m guessing she asked for that too right?? Some people out there make me sick! It makes me sick that there are animals who can do these things and then complete idiots who defend them.
Like I said in a previous post – if this was your friend, cousin, sister, niece or daughter, all you people blaming her for what happened would be feeling very differently right now.
Next time you’re at a bar and you’re flirting with a girl or you’re out having fun with your friends, I hope some crazy girl doesn’t come and stick some tree branch up YOUR *ss!!! Maybe then YOU’LL know what pain this girl has suffered.
Get a clue people!
6:38 pm
Good points – if this were a BOY who was GANG-RAPED by 10-15 boys, there would be NO DISCUSSION of the child “asking for it.”
Because that is not acceptable in our society–whereas RAPING FEMALE CHILDREN IS ACCEPTABLE. When are we going to all wake up and see that this is the society we are living in, and unless there is a collective uprising, we are saying, “It is acceptable to have some rapes occur in our country. We can tolerate that.”
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It just got dark where I live. I am a single woman…and I feel trapped in my house. I live in a hip trendy nieghborhood. But what scares me almost more than the risk of being attacked is that NO ONE WOULD COME TO HELP ME. Thanks, America.
6:42 pm
What is hard to articulate is: I am trying to imagine what she went through. And as awful and digusting and painful as the rape was….I can imagine that the more horrifying part was seeing that all these other people would not help me…and I know, I know in my heart that she was sure they were killing her, that it could only end one way, and in fact, they left her for dead. She could have had head trauma. She could have choked on her own vomit or died from internal bleeding. To know these were your last moments on earth. Why? Why would people do this to another person? And it won’t stop, and it won’t stop….maybe she knew some of them–and why would you do that to me, she was thinking. Did I diss you in the hallway at school? Did I turn you down when you asked me to the dance? All the reasons. It is so unfair. Please people, raise your boys to do better.
10:48 pm
It’s funny how all the people who chide those who opportunistically use this terrible misfortune to lecture women on how to ‘behave’ themselves don’t hesitate to use this terrible misfortune to lecture others on how to raise boys, respect another gender, etc.
However, maybe this event had little to do with gender and respect for women. Maybe it had more to do with race. Maybe the attackers saw the victim mostly as a white person upon which to vent their hatred of whites. Likewise, maybe all of the people who walked by without care for the girl did so because they had no affinity with nor sympathy for a white person.
Maybe the lesson here isn’t how women should behave, or how boys should behave, but how minority groups (including whites among predominately black and latino persons) should be wary of those who aren’t their kind — because it’s all too for majority gangs to treat minorities as sub-humans unworthy of the most basic consideration and respect.
Of course, unlike the other moral instructions people are retrofitting to this event, one of race consciousness and caution isn’t a particularly trendy sermon to preach. So people instead will preach the sermons that will get them gold stars pasted on the foreheads by either their right-wing cohorts or their women’s studies professors.
11:04 pm
Rape is a crime, but girls are getting wild and boys will be boys no matter what. I know by fact that is part of the deal to be raped by all the gang member before you can get in!. Girls are playing strong games and now someone got hurt very bad and the news are not working with real facts.
LETS GET THE FACTS FIRST! IS SHE CAPABLE TO SPEAK OUT AND FIND OUT MORE IF SHE WAS GOING TO BE PART OF THE GANG!!
Our society is allowing to much violent shows on Television and part of that is the imitation of tv in real life.
11:15 pm
dear Jane, when you are around a lot of teens and you can see wthat the current generations of girs are doing. You are going to be chock how their attitude and trashy behaviour outside the house is
unbelievable. Girls sitting on kids lap, passing their bubs to the boys and using some type of clohts that boys mind may get worse until that’s it!. Many girls lost their values because so many young mothers don’t even take care of themselves and their daughter are learning from tv what to do with their body. Nobody deserve to be raped and our government is tolerating to much from underage people that they can get away with to much without been punish. ALL WHAT IS HAPPENING IS A FAILURE FROM OUR OWN GOVERNMENT AND OR POLITICIANS. It is a consecuence of our easy going laws!!!
11:27 pm
I DEMAND FROM OUR GOVERNMENT TO STUDY AND CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITIES OF BANNING THE LARGE AMMOUNT OF VIOLENT TV SHOWS AS WELL AS GAMES THAT KIDS PLAY. OBAMA, IF YOU REALLY CARE DO SOMETHING AND RETURN THE POWER TO SCHOOLS, PARENTS, AND STATE FOR PUNISHMENT ON UNRULY CHILDREN.
WE THE ADULTS SHOULD HAVE STRONG PENALTIES FOR NOT PAYING ATTENTION AND EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN WITH WITH VALUES.
NOT JUST GIRLS GET RAPED, A LOT OF BOYS AND ADULTS GET RAPED BY TEENAGERS!!
3:18 am
Wow, all of these commenters saying that she deserved it are so STUDPID.
12:02 pm
Why do you guys comment on this stuff? Why write long paragraphs about your supporting or differing opinions? It doesn’t do anything, it’s just a waste of time.
10:57 am
thats what wrong with the world now.Theres no more respect or passion. For adults and kids to post these kinds of comments it lets me know that this world is becoming more and more animalistic.the main problem is what were seeing now. Parents that dont care so it reflects to the kids.In say make a law that blames the parents for all under age kid crimes and maybe people will raise there kids better.Some of you are so far gone i feel sorry for you and your kids.
1:32 pm
ok, rape aside, is the girl being prosecuted for underage drinking? there is no such thing as something being more illegal than another. i’m not saying she deserves to be raped for drinking. she deserves to be punished by the law for breaking the law. she should not be let off the hook because of the rape because she was drinking BEFORE the rape occurred. her choice to break the law had nothing to do with the rape and she should get no sympathy for it. Unless she has powers of premonition and was getting drunk to lessen the trauma of being gang raped later. being a victim of one crime does not excuse the victim’s own wrongs.
after writing this i just realized that if the DA does not decide to press charges for underage drinking because of the rape, it will probably be because they think she has gone thru enough trauma and there is no need to exacerbate the situation. said another way, isnt the rape punishment enough? if they dont press charges, they are indirectly saying that the rape was punishment (albiet cruel and unusual), implying that the girl deserved it.
11:18 pm
Wait, wait. A 15 YEAR OLD is gang raped and you’re talking about insuring that she is prosecuted for underage drinking? WOW. Oh wait, not all the underage drinking going on at that dance but HER underage drinking specifically.
Incredible.
5:54 am
Yes woman let’s keep telling the men in our society that it is permissible to rape us, as long as we are drunk or intoxicated in some form or another. It’s alright fellas, have at it! She made a poor choice; so it’s your lucky day. Why don’t you all beat her up while your at it. Then all you children can take pictures and put it on FB or MySpace. Sorry sweetie your bad for being young and naive. Infuriating. Disheartening!
9:49 am
All these men speaking about her deserving it or that she should be prosecuted, etc… as previously stated, if the shoe were on the other foot and this was your 15 year old daughter, sister, cousin, niece, etc. you wouldn’t be so quick to be so heartless. It actually makes me sick to see how people react to these types of situations, but I’m not surprised. People have no morals these days and then lucky for them, there are people out there who support their actions and slap the old “boys will be boys” and shrug it off. Sick, but that’s the world we live in. No means no, and raping a drunk girl = NO. Everyone is so quick to say she made a bad choice but the boys weren’t wrong for that they did to her, this was all HER fault? Pathetic really.