Comments on: New Adams Morgan Bar Loves the Ladies; Dudes, Not So Much

By: Shingo

Shingo — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:03:04 +0000

No thanks. I live in America, not 1944-Nazi-Germany.

By: Young Man, There’s A Place You Can’t Go - The Sexist - Washington City Paper

Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:47:17 +0000

[...] groups of males” would be allowed in. And while 21-year-old women would be free to enter, only men aged 23 and up would be able to join them. Those last couple of provisions may treat the Town Tavern’s [...]

By: Ed Meese

Ed Meese — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:48:05 +0000

It doesn't require more id from out-of-staters. It's simply redundant. Compare "You Must Present Two Valid Forms of Government Issued Photo Identification to Enter—No Exceptions" and "Backup Photo Identification Required On All Out Of State Licenses" -- everybody already had to show two forms of photo ID, they're just too lazy and ignorant to include proper English as part of their high-class atmosphere. I don't drink with Nazis, so it won't be a problem.

By: Simon

Simon — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:23:22 +0000

This whole thing likely violates 42 USC Sec. 1981, as well as the privileges and immunities clause (requiring more ID for out-of-staters).

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Last Week’s Most Popular Blog Posts - The Sexist - Washington City Paper — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:26:52 +0000

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Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:19:21 +0000

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By: keybridge

keybridge — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:22:27 +0000

This place is part owned by Kyle Sweeney, a professional lacrosse player and former Georgetown captain.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=9224249

By: Stink

Stink — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:59:39 +0000

What is this "out of state" ID policy?

Last time I checked, Washington, DC is not a state. More of a state of mind, but not a state. Seriously. What the hell is going on down there!????

I thought Barack would fix all of this.

By: ...

... — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:44:35 +0000

yeah, this place will close and soon. it's too much, even for adams morgan. the two forms of ID will really kill them. adams morgan is only good sunday - thursday and during the daytime weekends.

By: J

Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:13:55 +0000

The concept I think is fine, just not in Adams morgan. I know the GM and hes really nice. I say folks need to wait to judge till its been here awhile. It does fine in NY

By: mdesus

mdesus — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:57:44 +0000

wait did you just call the reef nice? Also all bar entrance rules are selectively enforced. If Brody Jenner wants to wear a tshirt and tennies then Brody Jenner wears a tshirt and tennies. Ya dig?

By: WhySoSerious

WhySoSerious — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:22:07 +0000

Collared shirts?! Perhaps they think they will pull in a better class of folks but they will just piss people off. Despite its rep as a frat-boy, college age, hook up neighborhood (which I'm fine with), there are several nice venues in AD including The Reef, Bourbon, Felix, etc. None of those places has such a tyrannical entrance code.

And no one carries two Gov't IDs. Its usually your license and a credit card. I sure as hell am not bringing a Passport out just to buy an overpriced cocktail.

By: TJ

TJ — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:11:48 +0000

You can tell this place is managed and operated by a bunch of douches. And apparently, that's the kind of clientele they're trying to attract.

By: laura

laura — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:09:31 +0000

i'm looking to putting on my collared shirt and taking my girlfriend out for a real night on the town!

By: DirtyGunz

DirtyGunz — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:57:26 +0000

To Benny, poster 29.
No Cut-Offs, No Sleeveless Shirts, No Combat Boots

To me, it looks like they don't want gay construction workers.... But that's just my thinking.

By: iggysentme

iggysentme — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:40:51 +0000

Don't forget ze asians!

By: Benny

Benny — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:38:19 +0000

They may as well just say "white only."

By: cairo

cairo — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:38:19 +0000

adams morgan sucks anyway

By: MickeyD's

MickeyD's — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:26:27 +0000

Focus on everything else that is wrong with this place, but not the "two forms of id required". That policy is just a safety backup for them if they come across a shady ID, but is rarely enforced. If you look closely, there are more than a few bars in AM that have that same policy posted (like the Reef).

By: DirtyGunz

DirtyGunz — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:20:19 +0000

As a former bouncer of Nolan's, Adam's Morgan resident and DC native, I don't see what the fuss is all about. The owners most likely visited Nolan's on a weekend night, saw the clientele and decided they didn't want the riffraff, frat boy, Marines (yes I've been a bouncer for over ten years and when they're on leave, they frequently start trouble.) As their clients. That's their prerogative. What's the big deal? Have you been to 18th Street, Lounge, Marvin's,Fly, Current or any other non-dive bar? Many of these places enforce similar policies. Even Nolan's(a dive bar) had a no; white t-shirts,hats,boot,student id's,expired license policy. Although I frequent bars like The Raven, Asylum, and Toledo Lounge, it's nice to have a change on the strip. Anytime an upscale bar opens in DC some people get bent out of shape and will say things like, "This isn't New York!" No, it's not, but it's not Frederick either. It's DC, a Capital city and a white collar town. Sometimes its nice to dress it up a little, and yes, put on a collard shirt and take the lady out. Ad-Mo still has a plethora of bars you can get tanked, grab a jumbo slice of "pizza" throw up on the curb and watch a fight. Far too many in fact I'm glad an upscale place is coming to my neighbor hood and I don't need to cab to get there. If DC is becoming too ritzy for you, there's always Cleveland... Remember DC. Keep it classy... at least 50% of the time.

By: Binklesworth

Binklesworth — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:09:45 +0000

What's up with this:
“No unaccompanied groups of males”

Isn't a group considered...companied...By definition?
I don't understand!!!

One place in Adams Morgan I'll never go.

By: CarrieAnne

CarrieAnne — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:00:56 +0000

This isn't just sexist, it's elitist and wrong. What woman in her right mind wants to go to a bar when all the men are dressed the same? And how would anyone be able to distinguish which guy they were talking about when they finally do spot The One leaning against the wall pouting and pretending to not care? "That guy, right there, with the alternating black and white striped shirt. No, not that one. No, the guy with the gelled hair. No, the other one. Nope, more to the right. No, you've gone too far over. Right there! Ah, never mind. They're all the same anyway."

By: Roissy

Roissy — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:56:15 +0000

My parents used to have swinger parties at our house when I was growing up. They had a similar door policy to keep riff-raff out. I was never allowed to attend the parties but I could hear everything that went on downstairs. People complained about the door policy but I think it worked out for the best.

By: Kathleen

Kathleen — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:45:17 +0000

Jesus, this reminds me of when I used to live in Massachusetts. It's so annoying and risky to have to carry your passport around just so you can buy a stupid beer. Screw them - I'll just keep going to my favorite casual bars that don't eye me suspiciously when I walk up with an out-of-state license.

By: seriously.

seriously. — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:36:50 +0000

@loganmo - Gay folks have f*cked up traditions for their clubs too -- That lesbian bar over in easter market won't even let men IN if they are not accompianed/chaperoned by a woman. No matter their age or their attire. that's f*cked up and wrong, too.

I won't be going to either until they figure out that gender discrimination is gender discrimination no matter what the intent is and who they *think* they're benefiting.

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Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:00:53 +0000

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By: loganmo

loganmo — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:47:30 +0000

You straight people have the most f*cked up traditions and rules for your clubs...

By: wcp blah blah

wcp blah blah — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:03:51 +0000

gay bars in Baltimore and DC in the 70's and 80's used to ask for multiple forms of ID when they were trying to keep people of color and lower (even lower) class out of their bars. Sometimes they'd ask for up to 4 pieces! Maybe Nolan's is just nodding their head to that rich, storied history. A place in Adam's Morgan with a sense of tradition is the only place good enough these ladeez

By: monkeyrotica

monkeyrotica — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:30:16 +0000

and paradoxically, women prefer to go to places where the ratio is tilted in favor of more women to men. a venue that is 2:1 women to men has a much more appealing vibe.

I have to wonder though. Will this be good for business? Men on the whole tend to drink more, as well as pay for the ladies' drinks. And what's the consensus on tipping? Do men or women tip better?

By: WOV

WOV — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:29:16 +0000

Military aside, who the hell even has two forms of *government issued* ID on them? (not including a passport, which if you want me to carry out for your convenience, bar owner, you have to seriously reconsider who's working for whom...) They probably just mindlessly copied the "two forms of ID" sign they had seen somewhere else and the "government issued ID" they had seen somewhere else and glued them together.

By: KCinDC

KCinDC — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:23:51 +0000

The "two forms of government-issued photo ID" rule alone eliminates 95% of potential customers, probably 97% since Maryland and Virginia driver's licenses apparently don't count. How many people carry their passports when going out?

By: Elyse

Elyse — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:22:07 +0000

All federal employees will be welcome!

By: Amanda Hess

Amanda Hess — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:02:33 +0000

I'm checking out this joint this weekend. I'll holler back when I do.

By: jcm

jcm — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:38:03 +0000

Two forms of ID? This place won't last six months, but in the meantime I bet the establishments next door to them will be happy.

By: dtrapp

dtrapp — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:06:36 +0000

So what is this place going to do for me? Dollar Dom night?

By: roissy

roissy — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:44:52 +0000

a door policy that excludes herds of sausage may not be a good business move, but it is a good move for guys who want to maximize their odds of picking up.

and paradoxically, women prefer to go to places where the ratio is tilted in favor of more women to men. a venue that is 2:1 women to men has a much more appealing vibe.

By: Nik

Nik — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:06:12 +0000

Therefore, Maryland and Virginia residents heading to this spot will need to bring drivers licenses and a passport?

By: Tony

Tony — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:47:58 +0000

Odd for a bar in the District to have a policy requiring special provisions for those with "out-of-state" ID. I mean if you're going to be that pretentious about your entrance policy, at least pay homage to our lack of statehood...

By: Cait

Cait — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:47:14 +0000

"No College ID Excepted Ever." I'm glad they're so grammatically correct.

By: Ed

Ed — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:17:48 +0000

Two forms of government-issued photo ID?
This seems to be filled with more fail than the gender-based dress code requirements.

By: Glenn

Glenn — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:25:34 +0000

They had better watch out: we reported on this type of practice back in September-- http://swdcblog.com/2008/09/local-news-for-monday.html

It is not legal, and ABRA can frown quite convincingly.

By: Greg

Greg — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:20:58 +0000

thank god im gay.

By: andrew

andrew — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:32:01 +0000

But alas, since I also wear sneakers, Audrina wouldn't give me a second look.

By: Amanda Hess

Amanda Hess — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:26:45 +0000

But the cast of the Hills will be there Sunday!

By: andrew

andrew — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:19:49 +0000

Looks like a place I will never be going. T-shirt and out of state ID = screw you.