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Tommy Wells takes reporters to Maryland hotel housing D.C. homeless families. [Post]

Gray spokesman calls Wells' event a "shameless political stunt." [WAMU]

David Grosso backs challenger to Jim Graham. [LLPost]

D.C. unemployment rate hits 8.1 percent. [WTOPPost]

Fire department investigating man's death in front of fire station. [WJLA]

Post ed board: what to do with embattled Options Public Charter School? [Post]

Officials "break ground" on Hecht Warehouse. [Housing Complex]

Study: D.C. schools budget needs 15 percent increase. [Post]

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Comments

  1. #1

    WElllll...........

    The WaPo employment rate post/comments is very, very interesting. Lots to digest there; and even more of which to give serious thought.

    Maybe I'll stick around LL, even though the comments were to the WaPo article and not to your blog.

    Not that you give a hoot, huh?

  2. #2

    HOW MANY HOTELS OR HOUSING FACILITIES IN WARD 6 DID WELLS CONTACT FOR HOMELESS FAMILIES TO SEEK SHELTER IN DURING THIS WINTER SEASON OR AT ANY TIME FOR THAT MATTER?

    WHAT HAS HE DONE EXCEPT TO BLAME MAYOR GRAY FOR PROVIDING SHELTER TO HOMELESS FOLK?

    I DON'T GIVE SHIT IF THE FACILITIES ARE IN JABLIP AS LONG AS A FAMILY HAVE A PLACE TO STAY AT NIGHT THAT PROVIDES THEM SOME SORT OF ASSEMBLANCE OR NORMALCY.

    THAT JOKER WELLS IS DONE!
    THIS IS HIS LAST GASP.

  3. #3

    I would like to see the unemployment rates EOTR. I don't care what the whole city employment rate because the majority of jobs go to people MOVING to DC, not those who have been residents for quite sometime.

    The unemployment rates EOTR will let me know if Vince Gray is a good enough Mayor. If you cannot take care of your own home, why should I trust that you will take care of others?

  4. #4

    Is there actually any real ward level data on unemployment rates?

  5. #5

    @Question,

    You actually SHOULD care about the employment rate EOTR because I can assure you, if employment is DOWN WOTR, it will no doubt affect employment levels EOTR.

    Since the unemployment rate EOTR has been historically much lower than our WOTR n'bors, I assume you've held all Mayors to the same standard and concluded that no DC Mayor has ever been good. If so, then I can understand why you would question Gray's ability to lead.

  6. #6

    @SEis4ME: Many have been questioning Gray's ability to lead since his patron Sharon Pratt Kelly made him head of DHS. I doubt you were here then, but take a gander at how that turned out.

    @drez, I haven't seen any actual employment data based on ward - if it does exist, it isn't readily accessible.

  7. #7

    Roscoe, no sir. I wasn't even in high school then.

    That's why I'm able to judge him on his actual time as Mayor..decades later than the time he was at DHS. Recent experience is more relevant.

  8. #8

    You made it to high school?!! I kid, I kid. I wasn't in high school yet either SEis4ME, but it is helpful to know what people build their careers upon. The "ostrich defense" is a defense, I guess, but doesn't excuse willful ignorance.

  9. #9

    SO SINCE ALL YA'LL CHUMPS CAN'T PIN THE "SHADOW CAMPAIGN" ON HIM BECAUSE I DOUBT YOU IGNORANT FOOLS WILL EVER GIVE HIS ACTUAL CAMPAIGN SOME CREDIT.

    AND SINCE YOU CAN'T POO-POO HIS TIME AS COUNCIL CHAIR WHICH WAS SUCCESSFUL BY ALL ACCOUNTS.

    AND SINCE THE HATERS WILL HATE FOR NO APPARENT REASON ON MAYOR GRAY'S EFFICIENT ADMINISTRATION AND THE GOALS THEY SET AND ACCOMPLISHED FOR THIS CITY.

    I GUESS WE GOTTA GO BACK TO HIS TIME AS HEAD OF DHS TO DIG UP DIRT TO MAKE MUD TO THROW?

    OHHH DOWNTOWN RESIDENT WHY DON'T WE BOIL IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL UNEMPLOYMENT DATA? FUCK THAT! BETTA YET GET THE NUMBERS PER STREET!!!

    Y'ALL BAMMAS ARE SAD AND PATHETIC!

    THE ONE CITY RE-UP GETTING AT APRIL 2014

  10. #10

    THE GRAY'S EXPRESS TRAIN IS MOVING FAST...

    OH, HERE IT COMES...WATCH OUT!!

    SWOOSHED))))))))))))))))))

    SEE YOU ON ELECTION DAY!

  11. #11

    Just wondering where his ward level unemployment data came from. I doubt he has real data to back up his own press release.

  12. #12

    Blevins, absolutely! The challenge w/your rationale is that it assumes that GRAY was RESPONSIBLE for what happened back then. It's a heavy assumption especially considering where the entire city was during that time.

    I think it's more appropriate to judge him on what he has or hasn't done SINCE then. I haven't heard any real criticisms of his performance from the time he left DHS up until now.

    Not sure why many of you feel as if that's irrelevant. It's akin to finding the idea that someone would vote for Obama reprehensible because he smoked weed and snorted coke while refusing to consider what he'd done since then...

  13. #13

    Wells has raised pandering to an art form. After April his political career in DC will be a bad memory. Plenty of Hawk & Dove time.

  14. #14

    LMAO. Oh you mad bro? Gray puts out good numbers and you question whether his (or any for that matter) administration would make up numbers to support a press release on a matter that's EASILY verifiable.

    http://does.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/does/release_content/attachments/DC%20Ward%20Data%20Dec13-Nov13-Dec12.pdf

    Of course now it wouldn't surprise me if you question the link as well since DOES is a part of Gray's administration.

  15. #15

    Readers:

    The latest unemployment statistics (by Ward) were recently published by the District Office of Employment Services (DOES), Office of Labor Market Research and Information. The rates through December 31, 2013 are as follows:

    Rate by Ward:

    1. 5.9%
    2. 3.3%
    3. 1.7%
    4. 5.5%
    5. 9.4%
    6. 6.9%
    7. 11.6%
    8. 17.7%

  16. #16

    neo/dino:

    Thought you were going to stop posting? You sounded like an absolute jerk and clown. Like a spoiled 3 year old brat!

    LL .. Schoolman picking on me! What a f------ joke you are. You must have taken a hit "straight off the brick."
    You better cut that s--- boy.

    Mayor Gray has done absolutely nothing but cut ribbons since he has been in office. His supporter repeatedly speak of his alleged glaring record but have proved incapable for citing significant contributions by him.

  17. #17

    Blevins, absolutely! The challenge w/your rationale is that it assumes that GRAY was RESPONSIBLE for what happened back then. It's a heavy assumption especially considering where the entire city was during that time.

    @SEis4ME: The challenge w/ your rationale is that it assumes that GRAY is RESPONSIBLE for what is happening now. It's a heavy assumption considering where the entire city is now.

    See what I did there? Must be exhausting to be you - the head of DHS is somehow not responsible for DHS? C'mon. May as well just admit that you feel that Gray can not do any wrong and be done with it. Spare us the grade 11 theatrics and "analysis".

    Thanks for posting the DOES statistics though. I really do appreciate them.

  18. #18

    Fine, don't give him any credit for what's going on while he's been Mayor. In fact, give all the credit to Fenty and Williams and Barry for that matter. It still won't change the fact that these accomplishments have been realized during his term.

    If I'm reading history correctly, Gray took over during a time after decades of leadership under Marion Barry. Surely you can't be suggesting that GRAY took DHS from a place of prominence into a shithole? If so, then you must be one of those who absolutely hates the current POTUS and didn't support him. Better yet, you clearly never supported any DC Mayor (esp Fenty) because DCPS performance has been some of the worst in the nation for decades.

    So no, it isn't exhausting for me. I just don't think his time at DHS 20 years ago is as relevant as you feel it is.

  19. #19

    As I have said on numerous occasions, Mayor Gray habitually accepts credit for development initiated by prior administrations.

    You posted a comment referencing Gray EOTR accomplishments. You made reference to the Development of H.D. Woodson HS, 2 housing development and Walmart. I assert that Mayor Gray was not responsible for either of these developments.

    HD Woodson HS:

    The plans to re-development HD Woodson was initiated and spearheaded by Mayor Anthony Williams. Gray can't legitimately count this as an achievement.

    Development of Nannie Helen Burroughs and Lincoln Heights:

    The Nannie Helen Burroughs and Lincoln Heights Richardson development were both part of the District's 2005 New Communities Initiative. These projects were initiated in "2005" and were spearheaded by Mayor Anthony Williams.

    Also, social researches have recently completed a number of studies that cite how low income residents, under the Gray Administration, are actually being forced from their communities as a result of the 2005 New Communities Initiative. In explanation, in exchange for approval to develop these sites, developers agreed to reserve percentages of the newly constructed housing units to low income residents being displaced. According to studies, the developers have repeatedly reneged on their commitment to reserve pre-agreed upon percentages of the units to displaced low income residents.

    Unfortunately, Gray has failed to force the developers to uphold their end of the bargain once the developments have been completed, thereby displacing large numbers of low income residents.

    Walmart:

    Negotiations for the development of Walmart stores in the District began nearly 10 years ago. Negotiations by Mayor William's, member of the City Council, and numerous non-government entities resulted tentative agreements which were finalized during the Gray Administration.

    Gray can be credited for encouraging Walmart to develop EOTR.

  20. #20

    What is the provenance of those numbers?
    I'm not mad, I'm just not gullible. See:
    http://www.dcfpi.org/unemployment-in-ward-8-is-high-but-not-worst-in-the-nation-or-even-the-district
    And ask yourself where the numbers in grays conveniently-timed come from and whether they are worth the paper they are printed on.

  21. #21

    "As I have said on numerous occasions, Mayor Gray habitually accepts credit for development initiated by prior administrations".

    Can you name ONE who hasn't?

  22. #22

    DCis4ME:

    Your comments, particularly #18 above, are like incoherent riddles without rhyme or reason.

  23. #23

    Ah, trying to back into your tired tea party meme, eh SEis4ME?

    What I'm saying is that Vince took a bad situation in DHS and made it so much worse that it was taken away from him. That's the stuff of a doddering middle manager. Here are some highlights:

    A 1993 report from the Washington Legal Clinic for the Homeless outlined the government's record of "refusal and/or inability to administer its own social programs to ensure that poor families and especially poor children are properly cared for and properly sheltered."

    in his first two years, he also eliminated about 500 shelter beds and reduced spending by at least $10 million.

    Gray refused federal money to shelter families, a decision Gray said was necessary to avoid creating an unsustainable entitlement to shelter.

    shortly before Gray's tenure at DHS ended, a judge installed a team of outside administrators to assist the agency.

    Job well done, Vince!

  24. #24

    What is that SMELL??
    OMGosh, it's ejcoleman climbing out of that cesspool he/she fell into.

    Can somebody please give him/her some soap from that soapbox he loves so much?

    Sorry LL, I take it back. You could never be that selectively ignorant.

  25. #25

    Drez didn't you get fired from Roll Call and recently as a waiter at a Logan Circle restaurant under your civilian name Martin Moulton?

  26. #26

    Ah, trying to back into your tired tea party meme, eh SEis4ME?

    Actually this one didn't have anything to do w/the Tea Party. I simply assumed based on your logic (Gray made it worse so he's unqualified to lead 20yrs later) that you could have not possibly supported the POTUS in his reelection considering that many things have gotten worse during his term. I also assumed that you have never supported a DC Mayor since poverty, unemployment, and DCPS have been historically bad for decades. So again, no Tea Party..just assumptions.

    I've read mixed reviews on Gray's record at DHS. You're convinced he was responsible for everything (inherited and implemented) that caused it go into receivership. I am not and less concerned if he were considering his performance as Mayor.

    - I don't have a problem w/reducing spending and cutting the number of beds.
    - Unsustainable entitlements are a real problem. Probably not a bad idea that Gray had the intuition 20 years ago to identify a huge challenge to DC's fiscal house.

    @Deon,

    If he did. It's 100% irrelevant to any (and I mean ANY) online discussion. Don't be so shitty and act like toilet paper.

  27. #27

    Unsustainable entitlements are a real problem. Probably not a bad idea that Gray had the intuition 20 years ago to identify a huge challenge to DC's fiscal house.

    Ugh. Reading comprehension please. Federal funds would have had no impact on DC's "fiscal house". Also worth noting that Gray is (a) putting families up in MD hotels at a cost of ~$100/night due to a lack of beds and (b) apparently disagrees with you about a right to shelter for families. With all this talk of "unsustainable entitlements", it's you who is sounding like a tea partier, SEis4ME.

  28. #28

    I am amused that you actually spend time wondering who I am.
    What's the frequency, Kenneth?

  29. #29

    I'm sorry, are you conflating what happened over 20 years ago to what's happening in DC now? Gray wanting fewer beds and reduced spending is related to some homeless ended up in Maryland in what way again?

    I get it. You don't have any real substantive critique of Gray's time as Mayor. Therefore it makes sense to refocus our attention on the early 90's..when tape decks were in every american car.

    Hey, if it makes you feel better knowing that you have absolutely nothing positive to say about your preferred candidate (and spend your time debating the 90's) and their experience then have at it homie!

  30. #30

    Gray wanting fewer beds and reduced spending is related to some homeless ended up in Maryland in what way again?

    SEis4ME, if the above relation needs to be explained to you, then I give up. Finish high school.

    Your reductio ad absurdum arguments were amusing for a while, but have grown tiresome. Perhaps find a new trick, or build a better strawman?

  31. #31

    You probably should give up because anyone who thinks the gov't's decision to reduce spending and cut the number of beds by 500 (20 years ago) is somehow related to the current homeless crisis now IS purposefully being disingenuous.

    Then again, maybe you believed in and supported the bloated gov't of DC's past. Perhaps you should find another "strawman" line of attack because there is nothing about what I've written here that has been misrepresented.

    Then again, maybe you don't really comprehend what a "strawman" argument actually is. Which explains why you believe cutting 500 (not 50k) beds 20 years ago matters now.

  32. #32

    @SEis4ME:

    I have to go with Blevins here. Your argument is illogical. In fact, your arguments have co

    I have come

  33. #33

    @ SEis4ME:

    I have to go with Blevins here. Your argument is illogical. In fact, the vast majority of your postings simply don't make sense.

    If Gray's past performance as a manager doesn't speak to his abilities as a manager, what does?

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