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Morning Clicks

Marion Barry writes nasty letter to Phil Mendelson. [Post]

Barry on those "dirty Asian" shops: "I could have said it a little bit better, but these places are dirty and nasty and people shouldn’t eating at them." [Times]

Mendo doesn't appear to know what a money order is. [Post]

Confusion at Barry/Patrick Ewing toy giveaway. [WJLA]

Tommy Wells wants a vote on campaign finance reform. [Examiner]

Jeanne Harris won't be sentenced for a while. [Examiner]

Nat Gandhi defends himself [WBJ]

Jack Evans: hero of the Sunday library hours. [Post]

Jonetta would like to see David Catania as the new education committee chairman. [Examiner]


  • tony

    Mr. Barry is right on point and Phil Mendleson needs to reconsider his position on the bill. However, Mr. Barry also had harsh words for Mrs. Lang who spearheaded the opposition to the bill and she is black. And so is several councilmembers who also voted against his bill.

    So what do we, as the black community, say about those black councilmembers who would vote against a damn anti-discrimination bill and offer absolutely no alternative.

  • name

    Why should childcare jobs go to drug dealers, pimps, child abusers, wife abusers, and thieves?

    Because that's what's going to happen if this law passes.

  • lmao x 10

    I think overall Barry is vouching for people to have a second opportunity to make things right in there life. Regardless of what you may think, the youth and the ex-offenders need jobs.

    This would be a good time for a Trade school to be available so people can get their basic skills up then be moved along to a 9-5 job

  • tony

    @name, the same reason why wallstreet jobs go to drug dealers, pimps, child abusers, wife abusers, and thieves.

    Everyone deserves second chances.

  • tony

    @lmao x 10, you right on point. Agreed. But it's the responsibility of those people elected representative to amke that case. It's called good advocacy. Pretty much what Mr. Barry is doing for the ex-offenders and rightly so.

  • Alex

    @tony - wasn't there an alternative bill presented? My understanding of it was that it addressed the same issue but with more clearly defined regulations and less liability for DC business owners.

  • Typical DC BS

    Guess the commenters here have no clue that Barry's idiotic bill will just give employers based in DC another reason NOT to hire DC residents.

    The thought process will go something like this when ANY job they perform a criminal background check already becomes open: "Gee, if I have to hire someone, and I'm not allowed to see check on their criminal history if they are going to be delivering packages to people's homes, entering their homes to do work, or interacting with the public or children, should I open myself up to a lawsuit and take a chance on a DC resident, or just save myself the headache and hire a Maryland or Virginia resident?"

    Use your heads. Most felons are brain-dead morons who are too stupid to think ahead anyway. If they think their actions don't have consequences, too bad. Shitty behavior leads to shitty consequences.

  • drez

    It's a dumb bill, and Barry makes himself look like an idiot for comparing Phil to southern segregationists.

  • tony

    There's nothing dumb about an anti-discrimination bill. And at the end of the day, thats all it is.

  • Drez

    I understand the nominal intent, however it 1) exposes employers to great legal liability and 2) dramatically increases time and difficulty for hiring and 3) will not pass.

  • Typical DC BS

    @tony and @lmao x 10: Regardless of my prior rant about the private sector and Mayor Barry's bill, you both bring up a good point. At some point, some felons do want to get a job and stop thugging / getting over on people. When they do, and have done their time, what would you suggest would be a good trade or job for them?

    Even though there would be some recidivism among them, there definitely is a need for a structured program to teach them how to get the jobs available to them, to learn the basics of employment (i.e. showing up on time, good attitudes, dealing with moron bosses, realistic expectations, etc.) and teach them skills that would segue into real jobs. I don't know if there's anything like that already in place, but I haven't heard of anything run by the DC government.

    Even if it keeps only some guys out of jail, a program like this may pay for itself.

  • nowaitadaminit

    Typical DC BS posits that most felons are brain-dead morons......etc. Let's see now: John Mitchell, John Dean, John Ehrlichman (and his co-chief of staff), Gordon Liddy,Spiro Agnew and Richard Nixon if he hadn't been President; Colson (the heavy set dude who become a preacher), Martha Stewart, Leona Helmsley, Jeanne Harris, Jack Abramhoff, Scooter Libby, Ethel Kennedy's nephew Skakell, John Gotti, and many, many, more.

    Very, very bright people most of whom obviously thought ahead long enough to pursue education and careers. The problem is so many of those types of people get away with
    their nefarious activities we never know about them. So imagine how many other brain-dead morons, etc.....there are in the world today.

  • Drez

    Lots of people come back into society through halfway homes and structured work release programs. These are good things.

  • Truth hurts

    In DC and accross the US, every witness testifying in court is subject to cross exam regarding prior convictions. Why? So jurers can take convictions into account in assessing the witness' credibility. Yet Barry's bill would deprive employers of the same info when hiring employees. As written, the bill won't pass because its too onerous and cumbersome for employers.

  • MattDC

    I don't think Barry's bill goes far enough. I think we should outlaw all merit-based employment decisions so that the less qualified can sue for discrimination whenever someone more qualified gets the job. Seriously though, Barry is like a bull in a china shop. This is not how you go about rolling out something like this. I have to admit, we expect ex-cons to assimilate and behave when they return to society but it's gotta be pretty hard to find work and avoid the criminal life. I don't have a problem doing something but jumping to Barry's bill is too far too soon, it's not well thought out. Start with pilot projects, in industries where more acceptable, partner with some businesses, smaller scale, trade school funding, offer ex-cons 6 month training programs, etc. Being an ex-con is not an immutable characteristic like race and gender, so this is not a civil rights issue.

  • Typical DC BS

    @nowaitadaminit: Every person you cited had a successful career BEFORE they committed felonies. Doubt there's many DC felons who started out as crack and weed dealers, right? Those are the felons Mr. Barry is talking about. The ones who've never had a legit job in their lives. That's the overwhelming reality in DC, not politicians and big-time lobbyists and business people who wiped out.

  • Really?

    D.C. has/had an ex-offender program that was run thru the DOES. The program was great and had a long long waiting list. Participants who had successfully completed the program were offered at least 6 months of employment along with a stipend to get to and from work.

  • Typical DC BS

    @Really?: Thanks for the information. Wonder why Mr. Barry isn't fighting for funds to expand that program? Would do a LOT more to help than pass a law that just enriches lawyers down the road.

  • Drez

    People I knew in DOES implied that the long waiting list was a tool used to weed out candidates who were less motivated and serious. They viewed it as a regrettable necessity. A feature, not a bug.

  • nowaitadaminit

    @#17: So let me get this right!
    Are you saying that the fact those mentioned had high ranking jobs BEFORE they 'wiped out' makes them less felonious than those you refer to as brain dead etc?

    Please go back and read your statements as well as my own.
    And then go tell one felon that because he was not successful before he committed his crime he should not get the same considerations someone who was previously highly successful should.

    Or maybe you can tell them that because they are not as educated or as successful, that "F" word for life will always haunt them but once those aforementioned others finish their jail time, they should have thier rights restored as if they were not felons.

    Do you really believe what you've written is correct and just? Are you so blind to the less fortunate among us that you refuse to notice that those people I mentioned above had much less incentive to commit crimes in the first place than those you so magnanimously disparage?

    C'mon Slim, a felon is a felon, is a felon is a felon; even with a Presidential pardon one, Bill Bordes, was not allowed to practice law again because of his 'pardoned conviction'. Of course he is a Black man and THAT DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW.

  • southeast lady

    I am lukewarm on giving second offenders a second chance;
    however, I will go for such a program. However, based on what they were convicted of, they should not qualify for certain jobs: childcare, dealing with senior citizens, handling city money, anything concerning children of all ages.

    They may be considered for jobs like digging ditches, cleaning streets, painting buildings, etc cetera.

  • southeast lady

    I need some help here if you don't mind. I would like to know who on the DC City Council has oversight over the sanitation of places that sell food; and who on the city has oversight over the police department.

    I do agree that the Asian restuarants in many parts of DC don't look too good. I go to the Asian restaurants on Captol Hill to get my sitdown or mainly carryout food.

    Concerning the police department and some of those firemen and EMT employees need to be placed on a diet and exercise program.

    However, there are council members who are in charge of these various services and Barry should consult with them before hitting the newsmedia and making inflammatory statements. Which seem to be for political reasons and to INFLAT himself. He is not a stupid man, he is a shrewed politician but he is so insecure and corrupted and likes to used such tactics.

  • southeast lady

    Tony, I am not convinced that everybody deserves a second chance!

  • southeast lady

    To: Waitadamnminit: I hear you. However, you are talking about a different group of felons--they have money! One of the ways they can be dealt with is that the general public castigate them, don't listen to them, don't buy their wares and refused to deal with whatever they are selling or don't vote for them or whoever they work for or associated with. This is a TALL order I know.