Loose Lips

It’s Official: Vincent Orange Will Continue To Be Your At-Large Councilmember

It's official, At-Large Councilmember Vincent Orange has won re-election. With all the votes counted, Orange cruised to an easy 1,746 vote margin over his closest challenger, Sekou Biddle.

That's a far bigger spread than Orange had as of a few minutes ago, before thousands of absentee and provisional votes were tallied by the D.C. Board of Elections. After April 3's primary, Orange had a slim 543 vote lead over Biddle.

Photo by Darrow Montgomery

  • StrangeFruit

    Recess is over, I think I hear the school bell ringing Mr. Biddle?

  • Anti-DC

    Orange won Biddle lost, its safe to say the Washington Post and Loose Lips owe Orange a positive article. Please stop publicizing Biddle because he is the loser. He deserves that title and Orange deserve to have an article written about him being the winner.

  • Mrs. D

    Oh, pish-posh. There will be plenty of articles written on Orange when he comes under federal indictment...

  • CG

    Orange won because Biddle and the "progressives" can't or won't campaign in Wards 5, 7, and 8. The "progressives" can't win citywide any more than the DC GOP could win a citywide election.

    I don't follow city politics close enough to know whether or not Vincent Orange appears to have been acting just negligently but in accordance with the law or if he was violating the law. But the "progressives" or whoever else are going to need to start coalition building in 5, 7, and 8 if they expect to ever win a citywide election. At this point you wonder if they are eschewing those wards because they have calculated that with ongoing gentrification they can eventually win elections without them.

  • Race Matters

    The Bull Frog won and Herman Munster lost.

  • oboe

    Orange is a signifyer candidate. The vast majority of those who vote for him know nothing about his "policies" (and care even less). What they do know is that he "walks and talks like me". He's the candidate through which Old DC sends a message to New DC--much like Barry.

    As the city's population grows younger and more middle-class, the symptom that is politicians like Orange will resolve itself on its own. And "progressive" candidates will do better in 5, 7, and 8 when the old folks--who are quite conservativee--are gone.

  • StrangeFruit

    Oboe,

    Stop the race baiting rhetoric. If have a problem with diversity go back to the farm!

  • CG

    Oboe DC is not growing more "middle class" now nor will it ever if gentrification continues to proceed in the way that it is. I'm going to get racial and talk about white people, of which I am one. DC's white middle class was wiped out after the riots. It isn't coming back. White people moving to DC currently are by and large not middle class, they are wealthy yuppies who either have the luxury to work for an NGO and are bankrolled by Mommy and Daddy or they worked their butts off in law school and are doing biglaw in DC and making lots of money. These people are by and large wealthy and are driving up property values quickly. The "white middle class," the kids who grew up middle class, went to Penn State or somewhere like that, and are now government contractors for the Pentagon almost exclusively live in Maryland or Virginia. They can't afford to pay for property in DC and the costs included, which probably include spending at least 20k a year to send the kids to private school. Only rich whites can afford this, and only rich whites are buying property in DC. There are some middle class whites in DC, but none of them own property.

    There is a robust black middle class in Wards 4 7 and 8 that hardly any white people know about though.

  • NE John

    SHHHHEEEEEEIT

  • NE John

    oh, and oboe is completely, absolutely, certainly, truly, madly, deeply correct!

  • Java Master

    Just look at the optcure of that grinning old fool. Now watch how fast that smile vanishes when the Feds indict him!

  • Mrs. D

    Wow...I never knew I was rich. Thanks for informing me of this, CG. When will my new income start coming in? My neighbors (the defense contractor, the nanny, the non-profit manager, the accountant, and the nurse, just to name a few) will be SO STOKED about getting to be rich now! But...do they get to be rich if they're "new" and "young" but not white? Some of them aren't white, and I don't want to cause any tensions if only us white folks get to be rich. I'll even campaign for the Buffett rule, now that it will impact me! Oh, man, my mom is going to be the happiest to hear about this, since she's spent years making lower-middle-class wages, and can now afford to bankroll *me* instead of me surreptitiously paying some of her bills from time to time so that she can afford to go away for a few days a year! Maybe she can even retire before 70 now!

  • BiteMe

    OBOE you sound like a hater dude. You all wanted Biddle to win so bad, and now he has lost. LET IT BE!

    You all talked all the crap in the world about Orange and he kicked Biddles ass!!

  • CG

    LOL Mrs. D you are getting so defensive you're rambling and not making much sense to me. I don't know what your mother or your skewed perception of wealth or even of all things the Buffet Rule have to do with any of this, but alright. And whether or not you'd like to admit it if you can afford to live in property you own in Washington, D.C. you're more well off than most of the American population. The average price of a home here is exponentially higher than it is almost anywhere else in the country and it is growing quickly. That is not all bad and is a sign of our booming regional economy, but anyone who thinks it is going to bring about a strong middle class in DC is deluding themselves. Middle class people don't live in $450,000 townhouses!

  • Mrs. D

    So the people in the careers I mentioned are well-off and not middle-class, good to know. It's awesome that we have so many rich people here! Working in careers that are accessible to people with an average college or maybe grad school education, and able to live a pretty decent life. All you hear about these days is how the American dream is dead, but apparently it lives on for all those rich folks in those super-impressive careers (like accounting, and teaching, and nursing!) in DC.

    National levels of wealth are immaterial to a discussion of whether a particular region has a vibrant "middle class." The middle class are those in the 25% to 75% of an area's income distribution. So there are only 2 questions to ask: can a person live a reasonable lifestyle on a middle-class income in the area, and are jobs that provide a middle-class income for the area accessible to the average, diligent person? The 75% cut-off in DC is something like $140K, 50% is $86K. That's household income, BTW, so a 2-earner household only needs to earn, on average, $70K/each to reach the pinnacle of the middle class, or $43K to hit the dead middle. Can you buy a "$450K rowhouse" on that income? Yes for the 75% (they could afford much more, actually), maybe for the 50%, and that's a *little* bit of a problem, but the 50% *could* afford around $400K, so it's close (one could also argue that, with good public transportation, people can afford to spend more than the nationally-accepted amounts on housing, this calculation is using 30% housing costs). Are there accessible careers in that salary range? Yep. In DC, teachers, nurses, federal employees, local government employees, accountants, and a whole slew of other accessible careers can attain that level of income.

    Why do you think it matters if someone living and working in Paducah, Kentucky could afford to buy a home in DC on their Paducah salary?

  • Mrs. D

    Not that I don't think there are income inequality problems in DC. It's obvious when our median income can be 1.65% the mean income that the people at the bottom are REALLY, REALLY poor. But those problems lie at the lower end of the scale. Tearing down people who make average salaries does not fix their problem. Building them up, providing an opportunity for education and advancement, and providing an adequate safety net fixes their problem. You know what allows a city to provide education, job training, and an adequate safety net? Taxes. You know who pays taxes? Middle class people. Of course, public policy needs to balance growth with goals such as maintaining affordable housing stock. But to outright say that DC can't have a middle class populated with average, educated professionals is just so incredibly wrong-headed.

  • Mrs. D

    (BA, MA - economics - state school...all funded by loans, grants, jobs, work study, and scholarships/assistantships because my mom couldn't afford to help me - though bless her heart she tried, dropping $20 in my bank account here and there when she could spare it...the least I can do is repay that generosity by paying her mortgage or electric bill when *I* can spare it so that she can afford to spend $500 running off to Mackinaw for a weekend once a year).

  • http://washingtoncitypaper.com southeast lady

    To CG: I hear you. I have lived in Ward 8 for at least 60 years and consider myself to be mid middle income. I was hoping with the increase in Ward 8 of mid, middle income residents to vote out Barry for one. This did not happen, maybe it will take more time.

  • http://washingtoncitypaper.com southeast lady

    I used to live on Capitol Hill, many many years ago. It was an okay experience, it was what it was. I was there from infancy to about 12 years old, there was segregation in the schools, et cetera, et cetera. However, blacks and whites did live next door to each other in some instances but did not attend the same schools, same churches--check out Holy Comforter Church and (the late) St. Cyprian's Catholic churches which were only a block and a half away. St. Cyprian's was demolition and the land was sold by the Pope?, Catholic Archdioces, whoever owned it (not the parishioner's of St. Cyprian's). Anyways, what is called Barracks Row (cute name) was referred to by locals as "down by the Marine's Barrack. Of course I could go on and on, but I won't.

    I have never seen so many restaurants in my life as there is in the Barracks Row area and all those rich-looking people.

    Old heads like myself move away, are displaced, placed in senior citizen apartments or die.

    And the newer, whiter, richer folks take over.

  • Race Matters

    Race still matters in America and those that say it doesn't are living on another planet or high off something.

  • gitchafaxstr8

    RACE MATTERS IN THE GOOD OLE US OF A AND DON'T YOU EVER F****** FORGET IT. OVER THE CENTURIES DURING THE INSTITUTION OF SLAVERY, ENTITLEMENT WAS BRED INTO THE SUBCONSCIOUS OF MORE WHITE PEOPLE THAN NOT. THOSE WHO ARE NOT RACIST ARE A RARE BREED. THOSE WHO ARE RACIST AND SAY THEY ARE NOT ARE DELUDING THEMSELVES, BUT NO ONE ELSE.

    PEOPLE OF COLOR CAN'T FORGET IT EVEN IF THEY ARE WEALTHY AND LIVING IN ROCK CREEK PARK, POTOMAC, THE HOLLYWOOD HILLS, SCOTTSDALE, NY'S UPPER EAST SIDE, THE PHILADELPHIA MAINLINE, BOSTON'S BEACON HILL, NEWPORT (EVEN THE RECENTLY MADE WEALTHY BLACK WOMAN WHO WON THE LOTTERY).

    READING THIS BLOG ALONE WILL KEEP YOU AWARE OF HOW MUCH RACE STILL MATTERS. IT SOMETIME SEEPS THROUGH THE SUBCONSCIOUS OF SOME OF THE MOST WELL-MEANING WHITE PEOPLE I KNOW. I DON'T CALL IT TO THEIR ATTENTION BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT THEIR RACIST TENDENCIES.

    OH YEAH!!! RACE DOES STILL MATTER IN WASHINGTON, DC AND THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

  • gitchafaxstr8

    'SOMETIMES SEEPS THROUGH THE SUBCONSCIOUS MINDS OF....'

  • er

    how do we define middle class in dc?

  • DC Tax Payer

    Vincent Orange won because the so called Progressives talk only to themselves in their gentrifying neighborhoods and ignore the rest of the city. All I know about Biddle is that he was supported by the anybody but Orange crowd and Ward 6 council member Tommy Wells. Still haven't figured who the real Biddle is, what he stands for, or even what he looks like. Never met him though he seems to need a little face work from pictures I've seen.

    A problem with the new "progressives" I suspect is that too many try to be pureists and register as Independents and find out that they can't vote in DC's closed primary process (assuming they even care about voting). You can try to defeat Democrat Orange in November but the better target might be Michael Brown.

    I guess I'm just one of those aging white conservatives who voted for Orange. Sorry "progressives," but I plan on being around for awhile and will continue to vote.

  • Mr. Remember

    DC is slowly becoming San Francisco East in more ways than one. More importantly, the person who won had a fraternal advantage.

  • gitchafaxstr8

    @Mr. Remember: Hmmmmmm!!!!
    SAY WHAATTTT?????
    "WHAT CHU TALKIN' BOUT WILLIS?"

  • Mr. Remember

    You know what I am talking about. As for the fraternal reference, I was merely stating that those Alphas came out and supported a fellow Alpha. We all know how fraternal we can get as in those Kappas supported their fellow Kappa and so on. Crossing the burning sands does have a benefit.

  • gitchafaxstr8

    @MLJT,Jr......And sure you're right, especially the last paragraph.

  • NE John

    Again, sheeeeeeeeeeit

  • NE John

    Sub par, bottom feeders, mediocrity at best. Politics in DC

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