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IN CASE YOU MISSED IT:

Good afternoon sweet readers! Ricky Williams is still playing football!? LL once saw him in the Austin airport after he won the Heisman. His legs were huge, as they probably still are now. News time:

Where's The Trust?: The Post's Mike DeBonis digs into the mass dysfunction at the Children & Youth Investment Trust Corporation, which was the main vehicle disgraced former Ward 5 Councilmember Harry Thomas Jr. used to steal city money. "The Thomas prosecution appears to be the culmination of a three-year tailspin for the trust, a trajectory precipitated by the encroachment of politics on what was intended to be an independent grantmaking process. More and more money sent to the trust during the time Thomas was fleecing taxpayers came in the form of 'earmarks'—grants directed by council members to favored groups, absent any competitive process. In fiscal 2009, for instance, council members directed funds to 47 groups. During the same period, the trust was roiled by then-Mayor Adrian M. Fenty’s move to bring its board more solidly under his control." Council Chairman Kwame "Fully Loaded" Brown said Friday he wanted the trust shut down. But none of the rest of his colleagues took that bait, and Brown has backed away from that position. Prediction: Audits will be done, investigations performed, and the trust will be given a clean bill of health. Then sometime in the future, the trust will be misued again by pols.

AFTER THE JUMP: Recall Begins; Curmudgeon Tom; Gay Marriage Flip-Flop...

And So It Begins: Fentyite Fredrick Butler has filed the paperwork to recall Mayor Vince Gray and Chairman Brown. "The proposed recall paperwork is sent to Gray and Brown, both of whom are given the chance to respond. (They have 10 days to do so.) If they respond, their statements will be printed alongside statements justifying the recall on nominating petitions that are circulated to voters. According to D.C. regulations, 10 percent of registered voters — including 10 percent of voters from five of the city's eight wards — need to sign the petitions to get a recall on the ballot. Given current registration figures, that's over 45,000 signatures — in 180 days, no less." Bring it on, says Gray: "I feel I have done an excellent job."
Curmudgeon Tom: NBC 4's Tom Sherwood gets a bit ornery in his weekly column. First, he blasts the elected officials who are feeling sad for Thomas. "Nearly every official written statement we read, however, expressed more concern for Thomas and the impact on his family than it did for the children who were cheated. Various people called it a 'sad' day for the city, but that was about it. And some earnestly added that the Thomas family and the city need to put this ugly chapter behind us and 'move on.' Well, pardon the interruption, but don’t citizens get a moment to just be angry? It was vile greed. (Look it up if you don’t know the word 'vile.' It fits.)" Then Sherwood blasts pols for heading to New Hampshire to press for voting rights when their current approval ratings are in the toilet.

Gay Marriage Flip Flop: Ward 5 candidate Delano Hunter says he's changed his mind on whether there ought to be a referendum on gay marriage. "It is settled. It is a moot point.” Guess he won't be endorsed by NOM this time around.

In Other News:

  • TWT continues to note that it's difficult to be a legal gun owner in the District.
  • Gray used to bag groceries at Safeway.
  • Rep. Darrell Issa still inquiring about Occupy DC.
  • Chuck Thies explains why Thomas won't be making a political comeback. "Who in their right mind would give a contribution to a Thomas campaign?"

Gray sked: 10:00 a.m. – 11:00 a.m.: U.N. Environment Programme World Environment Day Announcement/Mayor’s Biweekly Press Briefing; 6:30 p.m. – 7:30 p.m.: D.C. Public Library Martin Luther King, Jr. “Dr. King: His Impact on My Life” Lecture.

Council sked: 6:30 p.m. meeting to talk about Economic Development in Ward 7, Dorothy Height/Benning Library.

  • Ward 1 Voter

    I worked as a volunteer with my union to help elect Brown and Gray. I voted for them too. Just so you know where I'm coming from -- I'm not a Fenty fan and haven't been for years.

    I'll be signing the petitions to recall both. I'd sign a petition to recall CM Graham and all of the at-large CMs too if there were petitions to sign. To me, the only CMs worth a damn are Bowser and Wells.

  • SEis4ME

    I'll be signing the petitions to recall both.

    Why?

    To me, the only CMs worth a damn are Bowser and Wells.

    I could make a joke here but I won't. :)

  • skinsfan83

    @SEis4ME exactly. If Bowser and Wells are the two people you wont recall, you clearly have problems.

  • NE John

    Total recall

  • Ward 1 Voter

    Wells and Bowser have at least made good-faith efforts at limiting the influence-peddling and corruption. The rest of them are either already under investigation or neck-deep in the muck.

    The problem with recalling the bastards is that who's going to replace them? Some ANC crook who's ready to move up to the major leagues and already has his Audi picked out? Some "neighborhood activist" who does nothing but show up to meetings with a half-dozen other "neighborhood activists" and harangue the empty folding chairs? Yikes.

  • SEis4ME

    Wells and Bowser have at least made good-faith efforts at limiting the influence-peddling and corruption

    That's interesting. Wells voted against the Council's ethics bill. He was the only one to vote against Bowser's bill. Not sure how or why you give him credit for voting in such manner. It's seems counterintuitive to what you just said.

    The rest of them are either already under investigation or neck-deep in the muck.

    So Cheh, Mendelson, Alexander, Orange, Catania, Brown are all under investigation or in the muck? That's a rather hefty charge and I'm not certain it's true.

    The problem with recalling the bastards is that who's going to replace them?

    If you're really looking forward to recalling Gray, it's prudent to know what your alternatives are. Otherwise, you can end up shortchanged.

  • noodlez

    WELLS IS THE BIGGEST CROOK OF THEM ALL!
    FUNNELING MONEY THAT SHOULD'VE WENT TO ALL THE ESTABLISHED VENDORS AND STORES ON H ST NE INSTEAD HE DIRECTED THE DOUGH TO THE ATLAS ASSHOLE!

  • DJ Ren

    SEis4ME, Wells voted against the ethics bill because he wanted it to go farther and do more. But don't let the facts get in the way.

    WRT investigations, you are correct. None of the other folks you mention are under investigation (that we know of, anyway). Just Vince and Kwame left. Alexander is arguably in the muck over her constitutent services fund though.

    @allcaps: Wells is the biggest crook? On a council that includes (included) Graham, Kwame, HTJ, and Evans???? Oh, and while it's become a nice meme about Wells and H street, it would be nice to see some facts produced for once.

    Fortunately for the rest of us, what you think "should've" happened isn't grounds for policy decisions. Cheers.

  • Tru Dat

    Noodlez and co. hate Wells because he is white. Fact.

  • SEis4ME

    SEis4ME, Wells voted against the ethics bill because he wanted it to go farther and do more. But don't let the facts get in the way.

    They didn't. It's why I factually stated that Wells was the only CM to vote against ethics legislation. For most people, it would quite difficult to give someone "credit" for something they voted against. Hence, the Wells fan's conundrums.

    I don't recall reading stories citing anything nefarious about Alexander's use of constituent funds. I know there were discussions about that "other" category but don't remember much talk of her being targeted.

    Oh, and while it's become a nice meme about Wells and H street, it would be nice to see some facts produced for once.

    Are you suggesting that Jennifer DeMayo, the H Street Coop co-founder who received 100ks of city dollars wasn't a member of the Wells' reelection team?

  • Really?

    "SEis4ME, Wells voted against the ethics bill because he wanted it to go farther and do more. But don't let the facts get in the way."

    While on the other side of his mouth he was bundling them stacks with Joe Englert et al.

    Please!

    Hit the achieves for the facts! We posted them several times.

  • DJ Ren

    @SEis4ME, are you aware of a law that prohibits recipients of city grants from participating in the political process? If so, please advise. The meme I am referring to is the insinuation that Wells acted illegally. Next time I will be more specific.

    @Really - Wells has been consistent in his comments that while he is not a fan of bundling and would ban the practice were his colleagues to agree, bundling is currently legal and failing to use the process puts him at a competitive disadvantage.

    While I would prefer he not do so (and would greatly prefer the entire process be banned) he has been far more upfront about bundling than any other city official. All without the aid of disbarred Maryland attorneys I might add.

  • Ward 1 Voter

    I take and all the accounts I've seen take Wells' nay vote as a principled stand against a bill that was okay but should have gone further. Good for him. But that was probably the best bill that could have gotten 7 votes, so good for Bowser too.

    Each one of the other 10 is bad in one way or another. Mendo is probably clean as a whistle, but his work overseeing the Public Safety Committee, and particularly his work on CYRS oversight, suggests someone who's pretty comfortable with a certain level of violent crime in the city.

    Barry is a pathetic joke.

    Cheh is meh. Can't Ward 3 do better than that? Maybe not recall-worthy, but hard to imagine she'll win a second term if she has any decent competition.

    Catania I kind of like, but the job and the salary with M.C. Dean makes me skeptical of his commitment to his job as a CM.

    Alexander stole from her constituent services fund.

    Graham is of course my CM. He's not bad, in some ways. When I've emailed him about stupid stuff like streetlights and sidewalks he's been responsive and helpful. He votes the right way on most stuff. But you always hear these rumors about him strong-arming small business owners for campaign donations, he's notorious as the Grahamstander, and his agonizing over the (attempted) bribe from the FBI makes me wonder. Like Ward 3, Ward 1 could do much better than its current CM.

    Evans is kind of a pathetic joke too, in a different way from Barry, but still pathetic and still jokey. And his job with Patton Boggs brings up the same concerns I have with Catania.

    Vincent Orange = Pepco.

    Fully Loaded = Fully Loaded.

    I guess I don't have anything, really, against Michael A. Brown. The only time I ever hear about him is when another Michael Brown is running against him. Of all the offenses a CM could commit, being boring is probably the least offensive. But still. If we had a Council full of Michael A. Browns we'd be bored out of our skulls. Might as well move to Arlington if we don't have politicians' hijinx to talk about. And who wants that?

  • SEis4ME

    @DJ, SEis4ME, are you aware of a law that prohibits recipients of city grants from participating in the political process

    No not at all. But considering how much we're supposedly concerned about corporate corruption, it stands to reason that CM critics would be outraged. But since it wells, that ain't happening.

    I would also imagine that "principle" would make Wells stop participating in the bundling he opposes.

    It's amazing how Wells can vote against the only ethics legislation the city had, speak out against bundling...but agree to continue because it's legal..and STILL be consider Tommy the SuperSaint Wells. Just mroe excuses if you ask me.

  • Ward5Kathy

    I seem to recall a lot of people talking about the Children & Youth Investment Trust Corporation as a great vehicle for laundering money when it was created under Mayor Tony Williams in 1999. And so, with Harry Thomas Jr., we see that it works -- as planned? Maybe its operations should be investigated back to its beginnings.

  • StrangeFruit

    I too read the city paper's article about Wells campaign bundling during his 2010 re-election campaign and how he would do it again if given the opportunity.

    That's why I was floored when I read that Wells was the councilmember who introduced the bill to ban campaign bundling and the only one to vote for it.

    His political grandstanding is nothing more than a mockery of DC's residents' sincere plea for ethics reform on the council.

    One would think with the thunderous outcry for a principled council that places the common good over personal interest, Wells would at least fake the funk for a few months. But instead, he did what Wells always does—played the media whore card to position himself as the lone darling on the dais.

    What Wells and his Alabama crew can’t seem to comprehend that DC voters, outside of his Ward, are politically astute and cannot be played and, if they need proof, give Fenty a ring!

  • Ward5Kathy

    Although I've always liked Tommy Wells, it gave me pause recently to read that the council committee he chaired had oversight of the Children & Youth Investment Trust Corporation during the time when Harry Thomas Jr. was embezzling all that money.

    But then, we should also wonder about Jack Evans' oversight committee when so much embezzlement has been happening inside the chief financial officer's office, too, in recent years.

    Are these council members just gullible or crooked? Neither is a good character trait for a council member!

  • SEis4ME

    I take and all the accounts I've seen take Wells' nay vote as a principled stand against a bill that was okay but should have gone further. Good for him.

    I think it would be hard to convince anyone who isn't a fan of the Saint that what your position is a reasonable one. He made a good faith effort in voting against the city's ethics bill? Well ok. Any old excuse will do.

    Now according to your original assertion you believe that all of the CM (save Wells and Bowser) should be either recalled or under investigation or in the muck. The problem is that your follow-up didn't back up any of those claims. Based on what you just wrote, you simply don't like any other pol but Saint and Bowser. That does not, in any way, substantiate your original charge that is unfortunately shared by many.

    Calling an entire council corrupt just because you don't like them, does not make them corrupt.

    Point is, this is your city. It's time to start dealing with what goes on here in an honest fashion. Let's stop getting in our little groups and spreading obvious falsehoods. What you are setting up is a situation that any Tommy Wells campaign for position outside of W6 will be met with swift and over the top negativity.

    BTW, I'm not caught up on the "Vincent Orange needs to go because of Pepco thing."

  • cminus

    Ward 1 Voter: the knock against Michael Brown, if you want to dig one up, is that he introduced (with a maximum of stealth) and voted on legislation to legalize online gambling in the District despite being employed at the time by a law firm that represented online gambling interests. In his defense, he claimed that none of the firm's gambling clients had any business before the District government at the time, which does appear to be true, but his detractors argue that he worked to create a market his clients could easily have a future interest in entering. See, for example, http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/michael-brown-gambling-man/2011/06/02/AGZY52IH_story.html

  • Tru Dat

    I'm sure all of the folks who think Wells' advocating for a law to prohibit bundling while at the same time accepting bundled donations makes him a hypocrite were equally outraged at Barack Obama in 2008 when he reneged on his promise to use only public funds to finance his campaign.

    Oh...that's right. The animosity toward Wells is a racial thing...

  • SEis4ME

    @TruDat, are you comparing Obama's response to the MidWest Democracy Network's questionaire when he answered, "Senator John McCain has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election"?

    If so, it's not a good comparison. Unlike you have some other "promise" you're referring to, Obama never said he wanted to get "private funds" out of general election campaigns.

    OTOH, Wells WANTS to get rid of bundling.

    Nice try though.

    The animosity toward Wells is a racial thing

    I'm sure there is a racial component there. The same racial component that has nearly all of his support coming from white DC residents..mostly WOTR

  • Tru Dat

    SEis4ME - It certainly isn't a perfect parallel, but I think it demonstrates the point that successful politicians by necessity utilize allowances under the rules, even when they are fighting to change those rules. To handicap yourself would be futile, it would undermine any long term goal you might have to change the system.

    Perhaps a better parallel would be to wealthy folks who argue that the tax code should be reformed to eliminate unfair benefits to the rich while at the same time paying only the amount of taxes they are required to pay under exiting law. Are those people hypocrites? I certainly don't think so.

  • Truth hurts

    For those in need of comic relief, I strongly recommend viewing DeBonis' wapo blog on "the outrage" of DC pols. Click on the video he posted re Sherwood's interview of Gray (and others). While watching Gray's answers, silently repeat "it's just so puzzling" to yourselves. Guarantee you'll crack up.

  • StrangeFruit

    @ DJ Ren,

    Please explain your comment that, "While I would prefer he not do so (and would greatly prefer the entire process be banned) he has been far more upfront about bundling than any other city official."

    I think any rational person would conclude that Wells was neither upfront nor sincere about banning campaign bundling, but he seized an opportunity to ban a practice he exploited less than less a year ago that fatten his 2010 campaign war chest.

    If Wells is "up-front" about campaign bundling, then why didn't he introduce his anti-bundling bill prior to or during his 2010 re-election campaign?

  • RepoMan

    Michael Brown gets paid to do nothing; check out the council's calender, via its website, and note how many hearings, roundtables, etc Michael Brown oversees per month or attends compared to the other councilmembers-- almost zilch.

  • SEis4ME

    TruDat, I agree that it does demonstrate that. And in both of the scenarios you mentioned, neither of the two involved the principles wanting to "eliminate" private funds (Obama) nor taxes. They wanted to change the structure

    In Wells' case, he wants to ban bundling because of the opps for political corruption. At the same time, he wants to maintain the status quo. His argument is basically, "well I know it might influence others but not me. I'll just stand on principle and vote against any bill that doesn't disallow me from doing what I've suggested I'll continue to do because everyone else is too."

    IMO that indeed is as hyprocritical as it gets.

  • Ward 1 Voter

    Thanks, cminus, I had forgotten that Brown was the one pushing for the online gambling. That too smells to high heaven, especially given how the legislation was rushed through. Off with his head too.

    SEis4ME, the hypocrisy charge against Wells is a pretty soft one. Real hypocrisy would be supporting a ban on bundling, getting it passed, and *then* continuing to accept bundled contributions. And I don't think all of CMs besides Wells and Bowser are corrupt. I think that many (most?) of them are corrupt and that the others just suck.

  • Ward 1 Voter

    And DeBonis makes a solid argument that this particular recall effort is going nowhere: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/mike-debonis/post/dc-recall-nothing-to-see-here/2012/01/11/gIQAUY0lrP_blog.html

  • SEis4ME

    @W1V, Now we're getting somewhere. I believe it's perfectly fair to debate that it shows a "little" hypocrisy. I just reject the notion that because he was standing on "principle" then it's not hypocrisy. I don't like to create requirements for someone (I'm not a fan of) that I wouldn't apply to someone I am, that includes Vince Gray. It's why I am not willing to say a "little" hypocrisy is not "real" hypocrisy. It is. In the same way that (while not the same as murder), someone who steals money from the city is still a criminal...soft or not.

    More seriously, I don't care if Tommy Wells is the most prolific bundler of all times. He's in charge of his own house..so to speak. And should govern himself accordingly.

  • DJ Ren

    @SEis4ME - As I recall, Tommy Wells won re-election with 75+ percent of the W6 vote (primary - general election was at 85% +). White - Non-hispanics make up 47% of W6 Surely not every white resident turned out to vote. Also, as the W6 councilmember, I'd expect that most of Wells's support comes from WOTR - which is of course where his constituents live. As a corrolary, how many people in Ward 1 care about / support Yvette Alexander?

    @StrangeFruit - We can debate rationality if you want, even if doing so is a bit odd given that you spend the majority of your time here pleading for your pointless screeds to be released from moderation.

    What's disingenuous about stating: 1. I want to ban bundling 2. Yes, I have accepted bundled donations in the past. 3. If the system does not change, I MAY accept bundled donations going forward as failing to do so puts me at a disadvantage. He's one vote on the council - would you rather have him not try to change the practice? Not sure I understand what you are after, nor am I particularly interested.

    And Finally, @SEis4ME: what is getting lost here is that TW may well decline bundled donations in his next campaign. All this consternation over something that MAY be done...and yet one councilmember is off to jail soon, another is under investigation, as is our mayor. Deflect away!

  • SEis4ME

    @DJREN, As I recall, Tommy Wells won re-election with 75+ percent of the W6 vote...As a corrolary, how many people in Ward 1 care about/support Yvette Alexander?

    What are you referring to here? Maybe something I said?

    And Finally, @SEis4ME: what is getting lost here is that TW may well decline bundled donations in his next campaign. All this consternation over something that MAY be done. and yet one councilmember is off to jail soon, another is under investigation, as is our mayor. Deflect away

    Hunh? So your defense is that Wells is "ok" because although he has always accepted bundled donations, he hasn't committed to doing it again. Well ok. If that makes you feel better.

    And you talk about "deflection." You humor me. Here we are talking about Wells and his flipflip and you bring up three people who have nothing to do with him nor whether he bundles...or not?

    Deflect? You can't be serious.

    Not when you have nothing at all to say about "Jennifer DeMayo, the H Street Coop co-founder who received 100ks of city dollars and was a member of the Wells' reelection team?" sorry dude, you're not helping Wells by making excuses for any and whatever he does.

  • DJ Ren

    @SEis4ME: Reading comprehension is FUNdamental - especially when they are your own words. Was reading comp. covered in 12th grade?

    I was referring to your comment that wells has nearly all his support coming from white residents - which statistically does not hold water. The comment re: Alexander serves to illustrate that most councilmembers understandably have their base of support in the ward in which they reside. Just as Wells's support is WOTR, Alexander's is the opposite. Likely as not a Ward 1 voter cares little about either in the grand scheme...

    As for the other strawman re: Jennifer DeMayo - I believe I responded to that earlier.

    I understand that it must be tough to see your beloved One City caucus operate as it has thus far (now in missing man formation) - but really, as the dearly departed ALLCAPS would say - stay in your lane. If a "flip-flop" on bundling is the best you can do re: Mr. Wells it may be time to find a new object of scorn.

  • SEis4ME

    I was referring to your comment that wells has nearly all his support coming from white residents - which statistically does not hold water.

    I think it's important to ask rather than assume, IMO that's fundamental. To your point, what you really were referring to was my snarky response to TruDats assertion that the ire against Wells is all racial and then I responded in kind that all support for Wells is racial. Maybe it's good to pay closer attention and if you don't know or are unsure of the point someone else is making, ask.

    I'm not sure what "one city" caucus point you are making. But I notice the attack surfaces whenever anyone says anything not in praise of SuperSain Wells. That is, well look at Gray, Brown and Thomas as if one relates to the other. It's also worth noting how the slogan for "one politician" ends up being the tie that binds all other (black) pols together. Maybe you and your friends need to figure out why is it that YOU continue lump all black pols together regardless of who is the subject of discourse.

  • DJ Ren

    Again, a little comprehension would go a long way. Think hard, SEis4ME.

    Cute little race bait canard, but two pictures are worth far more than a thousand words with regard to the One City caucus - notice I don't lump Michael Brown in with HTJ, Kwame, and Vince?

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/afge/4684697885/

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2011/01/02/Local-Politics/Images/gray19_1294003620.jpg

    To imply that Vince, Kwame, and Harry aren't closely politically and personally aligned is beneath you. Quoth Ed Lover: C'mon son.

  • StrangeFruit

    @DJ Ren,

    So, you are saying my opinions/comments are pointless while yours are always valid?

    How typical of you? And why are you attacking me about a fact a presented regarding councilman Wells?

    You are one of his staff members?

  • DJ Ren

    @SF, not always but yes - more often than not.

    Is that typical of me? I'm not sure - I guess as pertains to your comments. Perhaps that wasn't supposed to be a question?

    Not sure where I am attacking anyone about a fact "a presented" about Wells, other than disagreeing with some folks on this matter.

    "You are one of his staff members?" Are you trying to ask if I am on Wells's staff? If so, No. Nor have I donated to Wells, bundled or otherwise. I am just a Ward 6 resident who is happy with his council rep more often than not.

  • StrangeFruit

    @ DJ Ren,

    I don’t waste my time arguing with ignorance or councilmembers’ staffers masquerading as anonymous commentators on blog, so this will be my last response acknowledging any of your typical, irrational comments.

    So, instead of wasting my tax dollars scrutinizing comments on WCP blog for insignificant typos (I was trying to sneak and comment while @ work) you should hip your employer—Councilman Wells—to the fact that a large fraction of his constituent base is dissatisfied with him discounting and disregarding them. I know this because I attend an African American church in his Ward and we were discussing the hypocrisy of his anti-bundling bill.

    Oh, since you get-off on proofreading, here’s something for you: necesita buscar un otro trabajo porque Wells no va a estar reelectado.

  • seDCdude

    "Nice try though.

    The animosity toward Wells is a racial thing

    I'm sure there is a racial component there. The same racial component that has nearly all of his support coming from white DC residents..mostly WOTR"

    WELL PUT, ol' stupid ass, double standardly bastards NOT FROM HERE looking to hold on to their "inside guy"!

  • seDCdude

    somebody pull the plug on this fake ass DJ *cough* GE spin cycler of the dumb kind!

    Ayy GE ren, the spin DR., the spin cycle, the spinners, the spinning top, the spinler, the spinster any form of variation of a bullshiting spin master applies to your fraud ass, BUT NEVER A DJ; you're too boring, too stiff, too uniimaginative and too corny to be considered otherwise, CLOWN!

  • Blevins

    Well seDCdude - I am from here. Also, as I said before - OF COURSE Well's support is based WOTR - that's where his constituents are.

    @SF - I am sorry that you continue to think that I am employed by the council, or Councilman Wells. I assure you I am not - I am well out of the DC government's price range. Good luck with getting rid of Wells though - Había apuesto a que la mayoría de sus compañeros feligreses visita los domingos de Maryland. Wells no va en cualquier lugar. No sabía hablé con fluidez español, lo hiciste? La próxima vez prueba a francesa - fluido allí también. Buena suerte!

  • Blevins / DJ Ren

    We are one and the same.

  • truth hurts

    Tu eres Rake tambien, es verdad? Yo creo que es verdad, mi amigo.

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