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		<title>We&#8217;re Not Flinty When It Comes to Ice, Either</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jule Banville</dc:creator>
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The streets are clear, the schools are open. But guess what, all you flinty former Chicagoans and tough-skinned others? D.C.'s still whining about the weather. This time it's about the ice. On the Listservs, on the forums, in the streets, on the phone, folks want to know what's up with clearing it. Spots where the [...]]]></description>
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<p>The streets are clear, the schools are open. But guess what, all you flinty former Chicagoans and <a href="http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/01/28/attention-people-from-colder-climes-shut-up/">tough-skinned others</a>? D.C.'s still <a href="http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/01/28/on-a-snow-day-obama-disses-dc-recommends-flinty-chicago-toughness/#comments">whining about</a> the weather. This time it's about the ice. On the Listservs, on the forums, in the streets, on the phone, folks want to know what's up with clearing it. Spots where the sun doesn't hit are still frozen over in a thick layer or, worse, black ice. <strong>Pat Collins</strong>' <a href="http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/01/29/pat-collins-citizens-react-to-obamas-dc-snow-jab/">definitive report</a> on <strong>Obama</strong> dissing D.C. did offer excellent advice (take baby steps, wear proper shoes). But still. D.C. needs someone to blame. How about the Dept. of Public Works?</p>
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Nice try, but DPW spokesperson <strong>Nancee Lyons</strong> reassures me as she has been reassuring several other D.C. residents who've been bitching about uncleared sidewalks that sidewalks are not her department's problem. Homeowners and business owners are responsible for not only shoveling, but deicing sidewalks as well. The Capital Weather Gang addressed this issue in <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalweathergang/2009/01/deicer_dilemma.html#more">a recent post</a>, recommending calcium chloride over rock salt (sodium chloride). Further: "Calcium chloride costs more, but lasts longer&#8212;it can be used in smaller amounts than rock salt. Also, it does not contain cyanide, an anti-caking chemical that can harm aquatic life." There's a helpful pdf on the post, too, for additional breakdowns about what does what as far as <a href="http://fuckyoupenguin.blogspot.com/">killing fish</a> in the Chesapeake Watershed.</p>
<p>All that's well and fine. But what about the gray areas? I'm referring here to the sidewalks not in front of people's homes or businesses on, say, bridges. Bridge walkways are major routes for people hustling to the Metro to get to work or to the store to grab the essentials when D.C. has a whiff of snow: toilet paper and milk. Who's responsible for clearing the walkways of, say, the Ellington, the Taft, and the Klingle Road bridges? Lyons says she's looking into it, but thinks these would come under the purview of the Dept. of Transportaiton. DDOT spokesperson <strong>Karyn LeBlanc</strong> is looking into it, too, but was not sure when I called. "I think I know the answer, but let me check and call you back," she says.</p>
<p>In the meantime, Lyons has a few words for people complaining to DPW about things DPW isn't required to do and/or asking DPW to write up their lazy neighbors. "Government should limit what they tell people to do," she says. "If we gave out fines for every little thing, we'd get more complaints about that than we do for not giving out fines."</p>
<p>Yes, it's a D.C. regulation of some type that residents are to clear their walkways within eight days of a snow or ice storm, but there's no one out enforcing that. For good reasons.</p>
<p>In Lyons' day (insert uphill-both-ways story here) people shoveled for their neighbors or neighbor kids went around earning a couple of nickles. "People had a better relationship with their neighbors," she says. "Maybe this is a byproduct of living in an urban area....I grew up in the suburbs."</p>
<p><em><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/rpstanton/3233404085/">Flickr photo by Ryan Stanton.</a></em></p>
<p><em><a href="http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/01/30/cry-with-me/#comments">Special thanks to Amanda Hess, JD, and IMGoph for finding this lost blogpost, such as it is, for someone who still doesn't get it.</a></em></p>
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		<title>Pat Collins: Citizens React to Obama&#8217;s D.C. Snow Jab</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Will Atwood Mitchell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Loose Lips pointed out earlier, President Obama's jab at D.C. over school closings inspired a veritable roundup of press commentary. Our own web servers groaned under the load of a 1000-2000% increase in snow-related blog comments (compared to our seasonal average).
In the video after the jump, NBC's Pat Collins heads to the one street [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As <a href="http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/01/29/loose-lips-daily-why-cant-marion-barry-file-a-tax-return/">Loose Lips pointed out</a> earlier, President Obama's jab at D.C. over school closings inspired a veritable <em>roundup</em> of press commentary. Our own web servers groaned under the load of a 1000-2000% increase in <a href="http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/01/28/on-a-snow-day-obama-disses-dc-recommends-flinty-chicago-toughness/#comments">snow-related blog comments</a> (compared to our seasonal average).</p>
<p>In the video after the jump, NBC's Pat Collins heads to the one street in D.C. where "flinty Chicago toughness" flows like frozen water.</p>
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<p><em>Video courtesy of <a href="http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Are_We_Winter_Weather_Wimps__Washington_DC.html"><strong>NBC Washington</strong></a>.</em></p>
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		<title>On a Snow Day, Obama Disses D.C., Recommends &#8220;Flinty Chicago Toughness&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ted Scheinman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[IN CASE YOU MISSED IT...HERE'S THE VIDEO!
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After Sidwell Friends canceled school yesterday, President Barack Obama had some harsh words for D.C.
"Can I make a comment that is unrelated to the economy very quickly?" Obama asked at a morning economic briefing.  "It has to do with Washington.  My children's school was canceled today.  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>IN CASE YOU MISSED IT...HERE'S THE VIDEO!</strong></p>
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<p>After <strong>Sidwell Friends</strong> canceled school yesterday, <a href="http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/01/28/loose-lips-daily-peter-nickles-dont-need-no-court-monitor/"><strong>President Barack Obama </strong>had some harsh words for D.C.</a></p>
<p>"Can I make a comment that is unrelated to the economy very quickly?" Obama asked at a morning economic briefing.  "It has to do with Washington.  My children's school was canceled today.  Because of what—some ice?  As my children pointed out, in Chicago, school is never canceled."</p>
<p>Obama went on to suggest that D.C. would do well to emulate "flinty Chicago toughness."</p>
<p>"I'm saying when it comes to the weather, folks in Washington don't seem to be able to handle things," he concluded.</p>
<p>That's right: Our new president considers capital-dwellers a bunch of pansy-asses who can't deal with a little dusting of snow.</p>
<p>Sad part is, he's probably right.</p>
<p><em>Video after the jump, courtesy of <a href="http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Obama-Scoffs-at-Sidwells-Snow-Closing.html"><strong>NBC Washington</strong></a>.</em></p>
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