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Photos: Snowball Fight, Malcolm X Park

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  • http://rickmangus@aol.com Rick Mangus

    I have lived in DC for over forty years since when was the name changed for Maridian Hill Park to honor a racist?

  • bonehead

    hey rick. did you ever learn how to spell mEridian?
    and been down LEE highway lately?

  • black jack

    Hey Ricky it's snowing out, go get'chu some because it's a whiteout!

    You mean to tell me as much as you hang over there you don't know how to spell Meridian, ooooh you know Ricky, you know! 40 years, you know that park from 1 end to the other, snow got'chu bored ricky?

    Racist tho???

    The pot calling the kettle black, typical!

  • http://rickmangus@aol.com Rick Mangus

    Malcom X was a no good racist son of a bitch who labled people like me a "blue eyed white devils" 02/19/64.

    So if you are looking this bad for someone to look up to and call a hero, then it's pretty sad.

  • http://Facebook.com/joellawson Joel Lawson

    Great pics; I regret not making it to Malcolm X yesterday.

    (Rick: It was most commonly known as Malcolm X Park when I arrived here many years ago, that's what I gladly call it still, and your smear against him displays an ignorance of the most basic facts of his life, which included a remarkably honest confrontation of his own assumptions, which resulted in a deep regret for his earlier racism, among other spiritual realizations. If only most human beings were as self examinatory.)

  • K

    Rick, you write that as if Malcolm X was the only person ever to refer to whites as "devils." The phrase "white devil" has a long, proud anti-imperial history stretching back hundreds of years. Actually, I take some pride in the phrase; if they printed "white devil" t-shirts, I'd totally wear one. That would awesome.

  • Downtown rez

    Rick-
    Malcom X grew and matured with age. His maturity can be said to have cost him his life. Call it Meridian, call it Malcom X, or call it Meridian/Malcom X.
    But there's no reason to besmirch the name of a man who became a hero in his time to many and who's philosophy continues to be influential today.
    Save your ire for the fools who continue to act like it's still 1964.

  • http://rickmangus@aol.com Rick Mangus

    Well by the comments that I see that some people still are trying to revise history.

    Fact the statement made by Malcom X was in 1964 a year before he was killed, so much for him maturing, 'Downtown rez'. Fact, Malcome X was a criminial, drug addict, violent and racist son of a bitch who Dr. King had trouble with. You remember Dr. King, Dr. Martin Luther King, 'K' don't you?
    If you did then you would not be talking that old line of bullshit you stated before.

    Hey I have an idea lets name some parks in the area after white racist son of a bitches. Here some ideas, George Lincoln Rockwell Park in Arlington or George Wallace Park in DC.

  • Downtown rez

    I think I've heard of King. People say he was a great man, too.
    In all truth, both seem to me to have shared the same noble goals. But Malcom was more visceral, and more honest. It's just that King was more politic. King realized you could catch more flies with honey.
    If I were in the same place as those two were near 50 years ago, I would hope I could have shared the restraint and temperance of King but, in my heart, I would have felt as Malcom X did.
    BTW- If you're so eager for federal edifices named after WRSOB, maybe you should take your self over the bridge and pitch your tent in the middle of Lee Highway.

  • Truth Hurts

    @ Drez: Your comment #7 was well put. People of good will need to challenge mean spirited race baiting posts.

  • Five To Go

    Why is it that yet another snowstorm brings out so much racial hatred by some people? What in the world is going on in some people's mind? I just don't understand.

  • Downtown rez

    I think people spend too much time inside their own heads.

  • http://rickmangus@aol.com Rick Mangus

    Lets look at this comment by comment. I made a factual statement, it is Meridian Hill Park, this according to the National Park Service.

    'Downtown rez' how has Malcom X matured when he made that racist statement less than a year before he died?
    Also 'Downtown rez' what are you saying by your comment, "But Malcom was more visceral, and more honest". More honest than who, Dr King?

    And for the rest of you who like to throw the racist lable around so freely maybe the true racist is closer that you think just look in the mirror.

  • http://Facebook.com/joellawson Joel Lawson

    Rick keeps emphasizing that Malcolm made his changes only a year before he died. He was ASSASSINATED. Since when does the trajectory of a man's life become your cheap rhetorical fodder when he was cut down prematurely?

    Rick is just one of those souls for whom negative attention is preferable to none whatsoever. Teabagger of the CP comment threads.

  • Downtown rez

    Thanks, Rick. I do appreciate a rational approach.
    1) While NPS refers to the park as Meridian, many locals refer to it as Malcolm X, as can be seen here:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/gog/profile/meridian-hill-park,799601/critic-review.html#reviewNum1
    here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridian_Hill_Park
    and here:
    http://www.washingtonparks.net/meridianhillhistory.html

    2) In 1964 Malcolm X broke with the Nation of Islam, and until his death was persecuted by them and threatened with death for this break. In 1965, Malcolm X is documented as writing:
    "[L]istening to leaders like Nasser, Ben Bella, and Nkrumah awakened me to the dangers of racism. I realized racism isn't just a black and white problem. It's brought bloodbaths to about every nation on earth at one time or another.

    Brother, remember the time that white college girl came into the restaurant—the one who wanted to help the [Black] Muslims and the whites get together—and I told her there wasn't a ghost of a chance and she went away crying? Well, I've lived to regret that incident. In many parts of the African continent I saw white students helping black people. Something like this kills a lot of argument. I did many things as a [Black] Muslim that I'm sorry for now. I was a zombie then—like all [Black] Muslims—I was hypnotized, pointed in a certain direction and told to march. Well, I guess a man's entitled to make a fool of himself if he's ready to pay the cost. It cost me 12 years.

    That was a bad scene, brother. The sickness and madness of those days—I'm glad to be free of them."
    Among other things.

    Rick-
    A man's life is long, and one can strip any word or dead of context and pretend it stands on its own and makes the whole of him. But I think it's clear from the plurality of events in 1963 through his death in 1965 that Malcolm X had matured and gained wisdom. Apparently, so did MLK, who wrote as eulogy:
    "While we did not always see eye to eye on methods to solve the race problem, I always had a deep affection for Malcolm and felt that he had a great ability to put his finger on the existence and the root of the problem. He was an eloquent spokesman for his point of view and no one can honestly doubt that Malcolm had a great concern for the problems we face as a race."

    Lastly, I applaud MX for linking his civil rights concerns to broader human rights concerns. E pluribus unum.
    (apologies for the lazy wikipedia references, but comments on a blog post- even on deep topics such as this- don't really merit a lot of effort.)

  • http://rickmangus@aol.com Rick Mangus

    'Joel Lawson', read, man read and stop being a guilt ridden white liberal!

  • Downtown rez

    By the way,CP, thanks for initiating (I pray you inject) moderation.

  • noodlez

    IM ABOUT TO GO THERE!

    BECAUSE ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

    IM TIRED OF FAGGOTS COMING HERE STAKING CLAIM AND MAKING ASININE STATEMENTS. DONT THINK BECAUSE A FEW PUNKS SHOWED UP AT A FAKE ASS SNOWBALL FIGHT THAT YOU RUN THIS TOWN! YALL MOFO'S BETTER THINK AGAIN.

    ALL IT TAKES IS FOR SOMEONE TO SOUND THE CALL AND ITS OPEN SEASON ON YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKERS. SO YOU BETTER RECOGNIZE YOUR PLACE AND STAY IN IT!

    HEY RICK "MAN IN MY GUT" MANGUS YOU CLAIM TO HAVE BEEN HERE 40YRS AND DONT KNOW THAT MERIDIAN WAS NAMED MALCOLM X (I DONT CARE WHAT THE PARK SERVICE CALL IT). THERE ARE SEVERAL STATUES THAT ARE ERECTED FOR WHITE RACISTS IN THIS CITY. FROM YOUR STATEMENTS THAT TELLS ME THAT YOU AINT NOTHIN BUT A FAGGOT ASS CARPETBAGGER.

    EITHER GO HOME OR LAY YOUR DRUNK ASS DOWN SOMEWHERE!

  • K

    But noodlez, I thought it was *already* open season on "us fucking cocksuckers"? (I take that to mean whiteys, but perhaps you mean teh gayz? Or do you mean anyone who is not a black Washingtonian by birth? BE SPECIFIC!)

  • Downtown rez

    Though I could not caution all I yet may warn a few:
    Don't lend your hand to raise no flag
    atop no ship of fools

  • black jack

    @ Ricky "MANSPUNK" MANGUS BEEFEATER

    You are kidding right???? LMBAO, ROFLLS.......
    "Hey I have an idea lets name some parks in the area after white racist son of a bitches. Here some ideas, George Lincoln Rockwell Park in Arlington or George Wallace Park in DC"....
    I know you were attempting to be sarcastic so let's be real.....J. Edgar Hoover Bldg, Frank Tippet Way in Upper Marlboro Md (this summamma bitch is the former DC Fire Chief and didn't even finish high school) and how about the biggest bigot of em' all...you guessed it, Ronald Reagan Airport! Hell I'll even throw in George Washington just because he has an entire UNIVERSITY named after him!

    Stick to male anatomy because history isn't your strong suit!!

  • Truth Hurts

    Drez, CP initiated some type of moderation re postings? You were kidding, right?

  • sedcdude

    "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference". Mark Twain

    I wonder if he was a racist, hmmm, probably safe to say he was considering his era of 1835 to 1910, nevertheless his work is in MLK Library and that's one helluva quote!!

    noodlez tell em' how you really feel, lmao!!!

  • sedcdude

    TRUTH HURTS
    get out of your feelings and QUIT BEING A BUZZ KILL!

  • Downtown rez

    Nope. @ 7:53 I posted a reply to RM with some links. I can see it on my screen, but at the top it has the following in bold italics:
    "Your comment is awaiting moderation."
    Seems likely it's just a basic commercial spam filter. :(

  • Downtown rez

    see also:
    Never wrestle with a pig. You get dirty and the pig likes it.

  • Truth Hurts

    sedcdude. Not trying to kill your buzz, knock yourself out dude. everyone's entitled to a good buzz on super bowl day. Seems strange that you'd single me out given comments by others in the target rich thread above.

  • sedcdude

    @ Truth Hurts
    didn't single you out without REASON if you reread in relevance to flow of thread;

    "CP initiated some type of moderation re postings? You were kidding, right"

    "I'm like waahtaa in glass, BE LIKE WAAHTAA MY FRIEND" - Bruce Lee

  • http://rickmangus@aol.com Rick Mangus

    Plain and simple, Malcom X was nothing more than a punk ass racist uneducated bitch who's only claim to fame was getting his ass caped in 1965. You live by the sword, you die by the sword!

    As far as to the rest of you fools, are you that hard up for a role model that you would look up to this clown, how many Noble Prizes did he get?

  • sedcdude

    Everybody that received the Nobel didn'exactly deserve it, specifically AL GORE and O'!!!

    "As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize without any accomplishments to his name, but that America gave him the White House based on the same credentials." - - Newt Gingrich

    This is another racist summ bitch who I must say; spit out a great quote!!

  • Jason Cherkis

    Rick is definitely the Teabagger of CP comment threads and should be treated as such. His ignorant BS should be ignored.

  • Truth Hurts

    @ sedcdude: Don't watch many Bruce Lee flicks, so I'm not familiar with that quote. Still, it cracked me up. Re relevance to flow of thread, drez comment #16 said CP initiated "moderation" on comments, which sounded like there were new filter/screening policies in place I hadn't heard about. If true, I was curious what CP was "moderating" given the comments in this thread and others. That's why I asked the question in #21; and it flowed from the thread. But thanks for explaining becuase I had no clue that was the comment you were addressing. I'm gonna remember the Bruce Lee line, though. Very funny.

  • Grumpy

    Rick's negative labelings aside, he is only half right. He conveniently left out the man's evolution to be inclusive and tolerant of all people.

    To mention it would negate his own angry rantings thus leaving him silenced. So rather than just be THOUGHT a fool, he confirmed it by revising History himself. That makes him a hypocrite as well as just an angry needledick

  • Downtown rez

    LOL at Grumpy's excellent post.

    Hey, CP, unblock my post!

    It's sad and ridiculous that CP would allow all sorts of hate-filled nonsense to be posted on this thread, and yet would block a post which, at strongest, contains some links to other mainstream sites and a few PG rated quotes by Malcolm X and MLK.

  • Truth hurts

    Drez: Email Will Atwood at CP directly. He'll fix the problem. There's a snag in some new CP filter that's inadvertantly blocking posts with a message to sender: "your comment awaiting moderation".

  • Truth hurts

    My last comment was blocked: "awaiting moderation"

  • Downtown rez

    I wonder what triggers the block.
    Clearly it's something totally unrelated to content of character. Perhaps character of the content? Did you include any hyperlinks?

  • http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/author/wmitchell/ Will Atwood Mitchell

    In this case it was the number of links in the comment. Sometimes a comment will get stuck in the moderation queue because of some default wordpress moderation rules. There are a few other rules we've added over time to combat spam that occasionally have unintended consequences. We approve comments that are accidentally stuck in moderation as soon as we see them. It's just part of the mechanism.

  • black jack

    Hey Will, let the good times roll baby!

  • sedcdude

    Yoooo, Truth, Drez and Will
    see this is what I call major buzz kill right here!

    How in the hell did we go from identifying racist monuments, homo osmosis, gay bashing and snow ball fights to "who's on 1st, he's on 1st, no he's not on 1st cuz' he's on 3rd" rhetoric, btw was famously coined by the 3 stooges whom I'm sure at least one of em' was a racist!!?? Probably Mo if I had to choose, aww what the hell another cool quote by a bigot!!??

    "I want to know who called the piccolo player a motherfucker, NO, what I wanna know is who called that motherfucker a PICCOLO PLAYER" - Robin Harris

  • Truth hurts

    Try some stronger shit, dude, something more buzzkill resistant.

  • sedcdude

    "DOWN WITH DOPE, UP WITH HOPE" - "U can Win" Jesse Jackson

    You should know better that I don't mess around with illicit drugs, CP threads is my fix, stop fuckin' wit it, U DIG!

  • http://rickmangus@aol.com Rick Mangus

    Whats up people, did CP become too PC for your taste, too bad!

  • sedcdude

    Get em' Ricky!!

  • sedcdude

    LET ME RETRACT ASAP FROM MY TEMPORARY ALLIANCE WITH RICKY BOBBY, but ahh Ricky, will, drez and truth hurts are saying that IT'S NOT PC ENUFF, COPY???

  • Truth hurts

    sedcdude: Who brought up drugs? Not me. I've been treating you fairly, but I'm beginning to doubt your reading comprehension and I'm wondering whether you're just trying to start a classic dumb CP pissing match. If so, I'm not playing. You win U DIG!

  • black jack

    @ Truth Hurts
    dude you implied it and that's the same as intent as far as i'm concerned and I say that because you know there is absolutely nothing more stronger or addictive than a CP thread!

    Fair, lmao, world ain't fair where I come from buddy, "ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE"

  • black jack

    got me! lmao!!

  • sedcdude

    "A day without laughter is a day wasted" - Charlie Chaplin

  • sedcdude

    "man who stands on toilet is usually high on POT" - 420

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