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		<title>By: Rhee Ex Is &#8216;America&#8217;s Next Great Pundit&#8217; - City Desk - Washington City Paper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhee Ex Is &#8216;America&#8217;s Next Great Pundit&#8217; - City Desk - Washington City Paper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Washington Post editorial page is quite smitten with schools Chancellor Michelle Rhee, that we know. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Washington Post editorial page is quite smitten with schools Chancellor Michelle Rhee, that we know. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: downtown rez</title>
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		<dc:creator>downtown rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Th
Yeah, granted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Th<br />
Yeah, granted.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Hurts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth Hurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D Rez: Read my post. I didn&#039;t say the emails were a &quot;record of a cozy relationship&quot;. I said they suggested a cozy relationship, which they do. Don&#039;t be so touchy. I&#039;m not even sure the emails suggested an improperly cozy relationship. That&#039;s why I said they would make an interesting case study for Journalism 101. 4m123 may well be right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D Rez: Read my post. I didn't say the emails were a "record of a cozy relationship". I said they suggested a cozy relationship, which they do. Don't be so touchy. I'm not even sure the emails suggested an improperly cozy relationship. That's why I said they would make an interesting case study for Journalism 101. 4m123 may well be right.</p>
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		<title>By: Comrade Al Gonzales</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comrade Al Gonzales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, DRez - K. Graham was a bloodsucking capitalist &amp; union killer. She deserved her unhappy life.

The Post is a joke. The only halfway decent American paper is the NY Times. 

The best paper in the world is L&#039;Unita&#039;, the Italian Communist Party newspaper.  It runs Doonesbury.  It is a bit odd – several pages of communistic polemic &amp; then Doonesbury, speaking Italiano. Newspapers – partisan newspapers – in Italy sell millions of copies &amp; are healthy b.c. the clown Silvio owns the TV networks &amp; puts on propaganda, so people get their news from the partisan newspapers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're right, DRez - K. Graham was a bloodsucking capitalist &amp; union killer. She deserved her unhappy life.</p>
<p>The Post is a joke. The only halfway decent American paper is the NY Times. </p>
<p>The best paper in the world is L'Unita', the Italian Communist Party newspaper.  It runs Doonesbury.  It is a bit odd – several pages of communistic polemic &amp; then Doonesbury, speaking Italiano. Newspapers – partisan newspapers – in Italy sell millions of copies &amp; are healthy b.c. the clown Silvio owns the TV networks &amp; puts on propaganda, so people get their news from the partisan newspapers.</p>
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		<title>By: 4m123</title>
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		<dc:creator>4m123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 03:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE MdeB and applaud him for getting ahold of this email, and for the amazing work he&#039;s been doing for months.  But I think he and others may be overplaying the meaning of the email.  I think the wording is ambiguous and that there is no clear cause-and-effect relationship between the second and third sentences of the email (&quot;I talked to WaPo&quot; and &quot;they&#039;re going to write a favorable piece&quot;).  

It is indeed possible that MR hoped XH would assume (as have so many posters in this thread) from the phrasing of the email that her chat had in fact resulted in a promise to write a favorable piece.  It would be a great way for MR to put XH in her debt.  But the wording is sufficiently ambiguous that it seems possible that there was no link, and that MR wasn&#039;t even trying to draw one, between the conversation and the editorial.  

If MR had the huge clout attributed to her on this board, she would have wanted to make sure XH knew it.  So wouldn&#039;t she have been clearer, by saying something like &quot;they said I had persuaded them, and  . . .&quot; or &quot;I made it happen for you . . .&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE MdeB and applaud him for getting ahold of this email, and for the amazing work he's been doing for months.  But I think he and others may be overplaying the meaning of the email.  I think the wording is ambiguous and that there is no clear cause-and-effect relationship between the second and third sentences of the email ("I talked to WaPo" and "they're going to write a favorable piece").  </p>
<p>It is indeed possible that MR hoped XH would assume (as have so many posters in this thread) from the phrasing of the email that her chat had in fact resulted in a promise to write a favorable piece.  It would be a great way for MR to put XH in her debt.  But the wording is sufficiently ambiguous that it seems possible that there was no link, and that MR wasn't even trying to draw one, between the conversation and the editorial.  </p>
<p>If MR had the huge clout attributed to her on this board, she would have wanted to make sure XH knew it.  So wouldn't she have been clearer, by saying something like "they said I had persuaded them, and  . . ." or "I made it happen for you . . ."?</p>
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		<title>By: Downtown rez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Downtown rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AAG- Do your commie self a favor and remember that that the same KG you idolize is the same KG that broke the back of the Baltimore Washington Newspaper Guild.  When was that, 20 or 30 years ago?

TH- The email is not a record of a &quot;cozy relationship&quot; between Rhee and the WP EB.  It&#039;s a record of a communication between Rhee and Hartsock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AAG- Do your commie self a favor and remember that that the same KG you idolize is the same KG that broke the back of the Baltimore Washington Newspaper Guild.  When was that, 20 or 30 years ago?</p>
<p>TH- The email is not a record of a "cozy relationship" between Rhee and the WP EB.  It's a record of a communication between Rhee and Hartsock.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Al Gonzales</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angry Al Gonzales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Post has lost its luster since Mrs Graham died. The tilt to the right via Fred Hiatt&#039;s support of the Bush regime, the recent scandal on selling access to reporters &amp; editors, &amp; now this - Rhee&#039;s confidence that she controls the Post destroys any notion of &quot;an independent newspaper&quot;. 

The Post has become a shill for the right wing nationally &amp; for the Fenty-Rhee regime locally. Mrs Graham must be crying in her grave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Post has lost its luster since Mrs Graham died. The tilt to the right via Fred Hiatt's support of the Bush regime, the recent scandal on selling access to reporters &amp; editors, &amp; now this - Rhee's confidence that she controls the Post destroys any notion of "an independent newspaper". </p>
<p>The Post has become a shill for the right wing nationally &amp; for the Fenty-Rhee regime locally. Mrs Graham must be crying in her grave.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Hurts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth Hurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave and Downtown Rez: You raise some interesting points. WAPO&#039;s policy, consistent with most reputable newspapers, is that the editorial board expresses opinions based on reported facts/publicly available statements, etc. The editorial board tries to steer clear of reporting. When extraneous factors influence WAPO&#039;s editorials, the paper generally discloses such in the editorials. LL&#039;s coup was getting his hands on emails suggesting a particularly cozy relationship between Rhee and the WAPO board. Would make an interesting case study for Journalism 101.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave and Downtown Rez: You raise some interesting points. WAPO's policy, consistent with most reputable newspapers, is that the editorial board expresses opinions based on reported facts/publicly available statements, etc. The editorial board tries to steer clear of reporting. When extraneous factors influence WAPO's editorials, the paper generally discloses such in the editorials. LL's coup was getting his hands on emails suggesting a particularly cozy relationship between Rhee and the WAPO board. Would make an interesting case study for Journalism 101.</p>
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		<title>By: Downtown rez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Downtown rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither, Freud and huh? (LOL)

I just don&#039;t see anything wrong in and of itself with WP communicating with the Admin.  That is expected, or should be.  Nor do I see any smoking gun with Rhee communicating with Hartsock.  Again, should be expected.  And lastly, I don&#039;t see any evidence that Rhee has the ability to improperly or even single-handedly sway the WP editorial board.
See, it&#039;s just natural- expected, if you will- that WP would want to check out Hartsock before writing an editorial.  And an obvious way to do so is by speaking with her coworkers or former employer.

What&#039;s weird is that you make it in to something more than that.  If you have additional insight into the matter, you both have certainly silent about it, and yet you freely project your fantasies as fact, and pretend you know more than you do.

That&#039;s your bias showing, not mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither, Freud and huh? (LOL)</p>
<p>I just don't see anything wrong in and of itself with WP communicating with the Admin.  That is expected, or should be.  Nor do I see any smoking gun with Rhee communicating with Hartsock.  Again, should be expected.  And lastly, I don't see any evidence that Rhee has the ability to improperly or even single-handedly sway the WP editorial board.<br />
See, it's just natural- expected, if you will- that WP would want to check out Hartsock before writing an editorial.  And an obvious way to do so is by speaking with her coworkers or former employer.</p>
<p>What's weird is that you make it in to something more than that.  If you have additional insight into the matter, you both have certainly silent about it, and yet you freely project your fantasies as fact, and pretend you know more than you do.</p>
<p>That's your bias showing, not mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To paraphrase Harvey Keitel in &quot;Pulp Fiction,&quot; let&#039;s not start licking each other&#039;s Popsicles quite yet, gentlemen.

What does this email prove? That the WaPo e-board talked to Rhee before writing the editorial on Hartstock. So...? Don&#039;t we want the e-board talking to people before they write? Isn&#039;t that what makes them different from bloggers who spout off their opinions without doing any research or reporting? The WaPo e-board has access to the most powerful people in the city. Why wouldn&#039;t we want them to use that access?

This kind of thing happens with every e-board of every newspaper in every city, and it goes both ways. You don&#039;t think Vince Gray or Phil Mendelson have ever lobbied the WaPo before for more favorable coverage?

Don&#039;t get me wrong; DeBonis is a titan. But let&#039;s not get into haigographic mode here for something that is, ultimately, just a nice little scooplet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To paraphrase Harvey Keitel in "Pulp Fiction," let's not start licking each other's Popsicles quite yet, gentlemen.</p>
<p>What does this email prove? That the WaPo e-board talked to Rhee before writing the editorial on Hartstock. So...? Don't we want the e-board talking to people before they write? Isn't that what makes them different from bloggers who spout off their opinions without doing any research or reporting? The WaPo e-board has access to the most powerful people in the city. Why wouldn't we want them to use that access?</p>
<p>This kind of thing happens with every e-board of every newspaper in every city, and it goes both ways. You don't think Vince Gray or Phil Mendelson have ever lobbied the WaPo before for more favorable coverage?</p>
<p>Don't get me wrong; DeBonis is a titan. But let's not get into haigographic mode here for something that is, ultimately, just a nice little scooplet.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Hurts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth Hurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LL, any reaction from WAPO to your poke in the eye? Great scoop, great reporting. I hate to ask whether there&#039;re comparable emails out there relating to recent WAPO editorials commending reporting by you and Cherkis. For your sake, I hope not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LL, any reaction from WAPO to your poke in the eye? Great scoop, great reporting. I hate to ask whether there're comparable emails out there relating to recent WAPO editorials commending reporting by you and Cherkis. For your sake, I hope not.</p>
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		<title>By: 2thru</title>
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		<dc:creator>2thru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wapo cannot be taken seriously and neither can Fenty or Rhee.  Hartsock is not qualified for the position and she is not even a citizen.  Of course Ms. Rhee would support her.  Rhee does not beleive in credentials since she doesn&#039;t have any herself. She thinks that contacts are enough. When will people in D.C. wake up and realize that we are being treated like a colony rather than a force to be reckoned with?  The only reason Rhee is still here is because no other jurisdiction will have her.. not even the one her boyriend is presides over.  Sadly, no one is disturbed that DC, one of the neediest jurisdictions is under the tyrrany of an inexperienced, uncredentialed novice whose sole purpose is to expand her posse of inexperienced clones across the District government.   These people are the ones Wapo has chosen to support  Solution 1: People need to read the City Paper innstead of Wapo  Solution 2: Government workers (teachers, social workers, garbage collectors, cops, et al) need to all catch the flu on the same day and remind Rhee and Fenty who really runs this city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wapo cannot be taken seriously and neither can Fenty or Rhee.  Hartsock is not qualified for the position and she is not even a citizen.  Of course Ms. Rhee would support her.  Rhee does not beleive in credentials since she doesn't have any herself. She thinks that contacts are enough. When will people in D.C. wake up and realize that we are being treated like a colony rather than a force to be reckoned with?  The only reason Rhee is still here is because no other jurisdiction will have her.. not even the one her boyriend is presides over.  Sadly, no one is disturbed that DC, one of the neediest jurisdictions is under the tyrrany of an inexperienced, uncredentialed novice whose sole purpose is to expand her posse of inexperienced clones across the District government.   These people are the ones Wapo has chosen to support  Solution 1: People need to read the City Paper innstead of Wapo  Solution 2: Government workers (teachers, social workers, garbage collectors, cops, et al) need to all catch the flu on the same day and remind Rhee and Fenty who really runs this city.</p>
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		<title>By: EG</title>
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		<dc:creator>EG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, like the WaPo editorial board had any credibility to begin with.  
+1 on congrats to MDB. Juicy emails a journo career will make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, like the WaPo editorial board had any credibility to begin with.<br />
+1 on congrats to MDB. Juicy emails a journo career will make.</p>
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		<title>By: Marciela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marciela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it.  Mike, you are awesome!  LOVING the e-mail being there as well as the WaPo&#039;s brown nose of proof.  Honest journalism my ass.  

Did you ever get the criminal report?  If you still need it, let me know here and I&#039;ll send you a copy in the mail.  That would leave some serious &#039;splaining&#039; to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it.  Mike, you are awesome!  LOVING the e-mail being there as well as the WaPo's brown nose of proof.  Honest journalism my ass.  </p>
<p>Did you ever get the criminal report?  If you still need it, let me know here and I'll send you a copy in the mail.  That would leave some serious 'splaining' to do.</p>
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		<title>By: huh?</title>
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		<dc:creator>huh?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hell yeah dr. freud!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hell yeah dr. freud!</p>
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