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	<title>Comments on: Why Did the Washington Post Magazine Run Another Wanda Fleming Column?</title>
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		<title>By: lilikindsli</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilikindsli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GBi8oQ I want to say - thank you for this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GBi8oQ I want to say - thank you for this!</p>
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		<title>By: Piscataway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Piscataway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Wemple.  Fleming&#039;s mistakes were huge and caused a lot of heartache for the family of the molested girls.  She either deliberately withheld important information that would have changed the story, or didn&#039;t look for the information, hoping the blurring of details would mean she didn&#039;t have to check her facts.  

And then there is her blog, on which it&#039;s clear she doesn&#039;t think she did anything wrong--the victim&#039;s grandmother&#039;s letter has apparently not moved her at all--AND starts maundering about &quot;what are facts&quot; and &quot;whose truth?&quot; and how she only had 750 words, so lying was her only option.  Apparently the fact that a once-good magazine had to apologize publicly for her is irrelevant, since it all depends on what is meant by &quot;facts.&quot;  As someone above pointed out, she has no business publishing what she writes.  

But the final indignity is that Erik Wemple is paying more attention to the Post Magazine than anyone who works there.  Cheers City Paper for pointing out that somebody cares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm with Wemple.  Fleming's mistakes were huge and caused a lot of heartache for the family of the molested girls.  She either deliberately withheld important information that would have changed the story, or didn't look for the information, hoping the blurring of details would mean she didn't have to check her facts.  </p>
<p>And then there is her blog, on which it's clear she doesn't think she did anything wrong--the victim's grandmother's letter has apparently not moved her at all--AND starts maundering about "what are facts" and "whose truth?" and how she only had 750 words, so lying was her only option.  Apparently the fact that a once-good magazine had to apologize publicly for her is irrelevant, since it all depends on what is meant by "facts."  As someone above pointed out, she has no business publishing what she writes.  </p>
<p>But the final indignity is that Erik Wemple is paying more attention to the Post Magazine than anyone who works there.  Cheers City Paper for pointing out that somebody cares.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I 2nd Jens. These pro-Fleming commenters seem fishy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I 2nd Jens. These pro-Fleming commenters seem fishy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jens Börkson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jens Börkson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did a curious freelance columnist send out a mass e-mail to all her sympathizers in an attempt to sabotage wemple?

what kind of reader would be outraged that the paper is doing reportorial digging and watchdog fact-checking to illuminate Postie incongruities and, perhaps, fabricated tales? 

i wonder what the IP addresses of these cats would reveal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did a curious freelance columnist send out a mass e-mail to all her sympathizers in an attempt to sabotage wemple?</p>
<p>what kind of reader would be outraged that the paper is doing reportorial digging and watchdog fact-checking to illuminate Postie incongruities and, perhaps, fabricated tales? </p>
<p>i wonder what the IP addresses of these cats would reveal.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Cherkis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Cherkis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to wade deeply into all the back and forth here. 

But for the reporter to shut down the door on Erik says volumes about her integrity. If she can&#039;t face questions concerning her writing, she should quit writing or be fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not going to wade deeply into all the back and forth here. </p>
<p>But for the reporter to shut down the door on Erik says volumes about her integrity. If she can't face questions concerning her writing, she should quit writing or be fired.</p>
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		<title>By: ANDREW59</title>
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		<dc:creator>ANDREW59</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope. Totally Disagree. If I was reading Stop Thief in a collection of other personal essays, I would not be asking myself, &quot;Hmmm,was it CVS or Rite Aid? OMG!!! I can&#039;t tell if it&#039;s a Walmart or not.&quot; 

Pay attention folks. XX Files is not your community policing newsletter. It&#039;s not the Metro section. Pay some more attention. If it did originally mention SUNKIST or FANTA OR CVS, the WAPO would have rightfully cut and edited most of that excess. As a reader, I did not find this essay the least bit ambiguous. A parent sees a child stealing and has to make a decision. If you want a novel, read one.

And Wemple&#039;s observations? . jesus f----his recent batting average is about 6%, forget the 12. He is really insufferable when he gets like this. He fancies himself as a crusader?? So he goes to the lowest thing a person on the newspaper foodchain can be--an unprotected low paid  freelance writer. Puffs out his chest, comes an inch away from defamation, smirks through every one of  his syllables, and then pretends to be doing the community a big service by pissing on this woman through speculation?. Wonder why Fleming didn&#039;t let him in her house, offer muffins and a nice long sit down chat?

The narrative was beyond tight, flawless and powerful.  I, as a very old &quot;seasoned&quot; reader did not need more luxurious adjectives...or to hear that the soda was not just orange. Didn&#039;t need to hear that the kid&#039;s sneakers were frayed, and his raincoat was what, tartam plaid LL Bean? And frankly, even as cynical as I am, I did NOT appreciate the implication that someone who has made an error previously is suddenly a full blown pathological liar who &quot;needs to be stopped?&quot;  Let&#039;s all be so pristinely judgemental of ourselves.

What I need in this city and from this &quot;ALTERNATIVE NEWSPAPER&quot;is some real work. Instead of pontificating about this trite crap and pretending that some minimum wage CVS serf who probably was not even employed there when this happened is going to answer your questions on record, here is a great idea. How about doing the actual investigative piece? 

WHY is this or any drugstore profiling minors, stopping them and asking for receipts,( and I would not be surprised if actually unzipping their knapsacks)?
ARE they doing it to all children or just the &quot;suspicious undesirables (read boys and minorities)?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope. Totally Disagree. If I was reading Stop Thief in a collection of other personal essays, I would not be asking myself, "Hmmm,was it CVS or Rite Aid? OMG!!! I can't tell if it's a Walmart or not." </p>
<p>Pay attention folks. XX Files is not your community policing newsletter. It's not the Metro section. Pay some more attention. If it did originally mention SUNKIST or FANTA OR CVS, the WAPO would have rightfully cut and edited most of that excess. As a reader, I did not find this essay the least bit ambiguous. A parent sees a child stealing and has to make a decision. If you want a novel, read one.</p>
<p>And Wemple's observations? . jesus f----his recent batting average is about 6%, forget the 12. He is really insufferable when he gets like this. He fancies himself as a crusader?? So he goes to the lowest thing a person on the newspaper foodchain can be--an unprotected low paid  freelance writer. Puffs out his chest, comes an inch away from defamation, smirks through every one of  his syllables, and then pretends to be doing the community a big service by pissing on this woman through speculation?. Wonder why Fleming didn't let him in her house, offer muffins and a nice long sit down chat?</p>
<p>The narrative was beyond tight, flawless and powerful.  I, as a very old "seasoned" reader did not need more luxurious adjectives...or to hear that the soda was not just orange. Didn't need to hear that the kid's sneakers were frayed, and his raincoat was what, tartam plaid LL Bean? And frankly, even as cynical as I am, I did NOT appreciate the implication that someone who has made an error previously is suddenly a full blown pathological liar who "needs to be stopped?"  Let's all be so pristinely judgemental of ourselves.</p>
<p>What I need in this city and from this "ALTERNATIVE NEWSPAPER"is some real work. Instead of pontificating about this trite crap and pretending that some minimum wage CVS serf who probably was not even employed there when this happened is going to answer your questions on record, here is a great idea. How about doing the actual investigative piece? </p>
<p>WHY is this or any drugstore profiling minors, stopping them and asking for receipts,( and I would not be surprised if actually unzipping their knapsacks)?<br />
ARE they doing it to all children or just the "suspicious undesirables (read boys and minorities)?"</p>
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		<title>By: Matty B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matty B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wemple&#039;s observations are not threadbare, but legitamate concerns coming from someone who moniters the news. 

At best, Fleming is guilty of lazy journalism - if you are going to focus a column on your own personal experiences, you better nail every particular detail with precision. I want to know what type of sneakers the boy was wearing, what color his sweatshirt, if his jeans were frayed, etc. That is not only how you keep your prose interesting, but how you ensure that your story is credible. Anything less should be regarded with suspicion. To not even mention the store name and neighborhood (remember the five W&#039;s?) is tenuous.  

Are we saying that Fleming deliberately lied? Not necessarily, but the ambiguity with which she treated her article is enough to give us pause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wemple's observations are not threadbare, but legitamate concerns coming from someone who moniters the news. </p>
<p>At best, Fleming is guilty of lazy journalism - if you are going to focus a column on your own personal experiences, you better nail every particular detail with precision. I want to know what type of sneakers the boy was wearing, what color his sweatshirt, if his jeans were frayed, etc. That is not only how you keep your prose interesting, but how you ensure that your story is credible. Anything less should be regarded with suspicion. To not even mention the store name and neighborhood (remember the five W's?) is tenuous.  </p>
<p>Are we saying that Fleming deliberately lied? Not necessarily, but the ambiguity with which she treated her article is enough to give us pause.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim in DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim in DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be proud (albeit, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, I suppose) that your relentless effort to assassinate Ms. Fleming&#039;s character is &quot;12% informative&quot; reveals much more about your own journalistic standards than anyone else&#039;s. That means your article is 88% something else that&#039;s usually associated with fertilizer.  To your credit, you&#039;ve obviously succeeded in bringing folks with far too much time on their hands out of the wood-work--people with time to speculate very personally, graphically and uncharitably about Ms. Fleming&#039;s past health issues.  

Your &quot;story&quot; is so derivative--such an effort to make something from nothing for the sole purpose of targeting an individual whom you&#039;ve decided for some reason that you don&#039;t like--as to be pointless.  It is nothing but ginned up speculation that this free-lance writer who once-upon-a-time wrote an essay, some nuances of which caused something of a tempest among those most directly involved, lacks credibility with respect to a totally unrelated essay months later.  Why would she name the exact drugstore, people involved, etc.?  It&#039;s an essay based on life&#039;s experience, not a police report.

You archly pose questions about Ms. Fleming&#039;s credibility based on your own transparent desire to get mileage from an old controversy, then you pat yourself on the back because you tried, but supposedly were foiled, in your so-called sincere efforts to investigate the truth of an essay Ms. Fleming wrote about some shoplifting kids in her neighborhood. Sit back for a minute and think about how petty and absurd your efforts running around the neighborhood behind her looked. Why would Ms. Fleming talk to you after your publication rail-roaded her a few months ago?  Nothing she could have said would have changed your hit-job.  And a &quot;late hit,&quot; at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be proud (albeit, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, I suppose) that your relentless effort to assassinate Ms. Fleming's character is "12% informative" reveals much more about your own journalistic standards than anyone else's. That means your article is 88% something else that's usually associated with fertilizer.  To your credit, you've obviously succeeded in bringing folks with far too much time on their hands out of the wood-work--people with time to speculate very personally, graphically and uncharitably about Ms. Fleming's past health issues.  </p>
<p>Your "story" is so derivative--such an effort to make something from nothing for the sole purpose of targeting an individual whom you've decided for some reason that you don't like--as to be pointless.  It is nothing but ginned up speculation that this free-lance writer who once-upon-a-time wrote an essay, some nuances of which caused something of a tempest among those most directly involved, lacks credibility with respect to a totally unrelated essay months later.  Why would she name the exact drugstore, people involved, etc.?  It's an essay based on life's experience, not a police report.</p>
<p>You archly pose questions about Ms. Fleming's credibility based on your own transparent desire to get mileage from an old controversy, then you pat yourself on the back because you tried, but supposedly were foiled, in your so-called sincere efforts to investigate the truth of an essay Ms. Fleming wrote about some shoplifting kids in her neighborhood. Sit back for a minute and think about how petty and absurd your efforts running around the neighborhood behind her looked. Why would Ms. Fleming talk to you after your publication rail-roaded her a few months ago?  Nothing she could have said would have changed your hit-job.  And a "late hit," at that.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik C. Wemple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik C. Wemple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12 percent!!??? I&#039;ll take it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12 percent!!??? I'll take it!</p>
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		<title>By: michael barrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael barrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This woman needs to be stopped. I thought the child molestation story was a deliberate deception, designed to give a man convicted of gross acts a newspaper clip that he can point to claiming it was all a mistake. With that clip, he can launder his reputation and perhaps gain access once again to children. That&#039;s why the families of the girls are so upset and demanded the Post set the record straight. The clip from the magazine doesn&#039;t have the correction that the Post appended to the online story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This woman needs to be stopped. I thought the child molestation story was a deliberate deception, designed to give a man convicted of gross acts a newspaper clip that he can point to claiming it was all a mistake. With that clip, he can launder his reputation and perhaps gain access once again to children. That's why the families of the girls are so upset and demanded the Post set the record straight. The clip from the magazine doesn't have the correction that the Post appended to the online story.</p>
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		<title>By: edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Is that a scar? 2. Is that a scar from a thyroid operation?
That&#039;s why I asked Erik to check it out the next time he runs into her. I find it a little low for the thyroid, which is about halfway up the neck. It would be a little awkward for surgeons to get at it from that cut, if it is a cut and not the imprint of a necklace or something like that.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YdEiMoMgR0s/ST1coEE4fcI/AAAAAAAAAKE/ap7-tdOAe_A/s1600-h/knife+fight+laughing.JPG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Is that a scar? 2. Is that a scar from a thyroid operation?<br />
That's why I asked Erik to check it out the next time he runs into her. I find it a little low for the thyroid, which is about halfway up the neck. It would be a little awkward for surgeons to get at it from that cut, if it is a cut and not the imprint of a necklace or something like that.<br />
<a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YdEiMoMgR0s/ST1coEE4fcI/AAAAAAAAAKE/ap7-tdOAe_A/s1600-h/knife+fight+laughing.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YdEiMoMgR0s/ST1coEE4fcI/AAAAAAAAAKE/ap7-tdOAe_A/s1600-h/knife+fight+laughing.JPG</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm..weird comment....The author is featured with a very large scar on her neck in the photo the Post carried ( and the neck shot appears on the writer&#039;s blog. Just click and look. I reread that piece and no where did the author say she was not left with a scar. I believe the surgeon alluded to it being a small scar. I clicked on the photo and the neck shows a clear slice scar on the throat. I love how City Paper readers love to pile on people. Pretty pathetic, pretty loserish actually. And Erik&#039;s piece was about 12% informative, rambling and typical of the diatribes run against the Post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm..weird comment....The author is featured with a very large scar on her neck in the photo the Post carried ( and the neck shot appears on the writer's blog. Just click and look. I reread that piece and no where did the author say she was not left with a scar. I believe the surgeon alluded to it being a small scar. I clicked on the photo and the neck shows a clear slice scar on the throat. I love how City Paper readers love to pile on people. Pretty pathetic, pretty loserish actually. And Erik's piece was about 12% informative, rambling and typical of the diatribes run against the Post.</p>
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		<title>By: edward</title>
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		<dc:creator>edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you run into her again, ask her to show you the scar of the thyroid operation she claimed in a previous essay to have undergone. She maintains it was gone without a scar, but this is impossible. There is a big scar, and it almost encircles your throat. If the doctor does it carefully, he or she can follow the crease in the skin of the neck, but there is a scar. Furthermore, she indicates thyroid cancer. The follow-on treatment regularly followed in cases of thyroid cancer is a treatment with radioactive iodine, in which the patient is kept in isolation for three days. Strange she doesn&#039;t mention this. Maybe she forgot about it while luxuriating in the fact there is no scar evident on her neck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you run into her again, ask her to show you the scar of the thyroid operation she claimed in a previous essay to have undergone. She maintains it was gone without a scar, but this is impossible. There is a big scar, and it almost encircles your throat. If the doctor does it carefully, he or she can follow the crease in the skin of the neck, but there is a scar. Furthermore, she indicates thyroid cancer. The follow-on treatment regularly followed in cases of thyroid cancer is a treatment with radioactive iodine, in which the patient is kept in isolation for three days. Strange she doesn't mention this. Maybe she forgot about it while luxuriating in the fact there is no scar evident on her neck.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Post seems to be taking the Adrian Fenty method of public relations -- avoid questions.</description>
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