As blacks, we realize that oppression against homosexuals is OLDER than racism. Before the races ever met...each race oppressed its OWN homosexuals.

Injustice anywhere, is injustice everywhere.

Why do black people not know anything about black gay civil rights leader, Bayard Rustin?

Why are the gays expected to wait until all wars have ended, all children (of heterosexuals) are making A's and not dropping out, all diseases are cured, all financial woes resolved, all energy problems addressed......before expecting 'equality'?

If anyone can name a SINGLE constitutionally CONSISTENT justification to limit LEGAL marriage based on 'genitalia'...please speak now. Just remember that there is no law saying that legal marriage is for those who can procreate. Thats how sterile people can get married. Thats how straight couples can legally sterilize themselves after marriage...but stay married.

Whether I believe in same-sex marriage or not is ultimately up to me. No person, being, entity, government, etc. can supplant or control my mind. Influence, cajole, or disagree with they may, but ultimately my beliefs are my own. I say this because at the heart of the gay bashing and religion bashing is fundamentally a difference of opinion. Duh... everyone gets that but very few are willing to explore the full range of the argument. Most, especially in this post, are content with their argument (their side) and that's that. But every week, I'm reading the same defensive phrases, words, etc. Either you're considered a bigot or a {Insert offensive GLBT term here}. Polarizing things further, is the question of homosexuality itself…scientific evidence (depending upon the researcher) proves or disproves being born that way. Psychological evidence proves or disproves choosing homosexuality as a lifestyle. African-Americans and women are challenged based upon their own minority treatment for not supporting the bill. GLBT supporting the bill are considered patently immoral, promiscuous deviants that need deliverance from God.

ENOUGH!

Things don't HAVE to be fair to be considered equal, and equality in some cases shows UNFAIRNESS. Before you jump down my throat, let me explain. To the Bible readers most have heard of King Solomon. He was purportedly a wise king. When two women had a dispute about the matriarchal authority (basically who was the real mother), Solomon offer an EQUAL compromise...cut the child in half. Clearly Solomon knew that "all things being equal" that would not result in FAIR treatment of the real mother and not in the best interest of the child. Likewise under the Judaic/Levitical laws SINNERS, which include idolaters, thieves, fornicators, liars, blasphemers, coveters, adulterers, etc., faced in the extreme circumstances DEATH for their actions. “All things being equal”, for every crime there was a prescriptive sentence/punishment and had justice been meted out according to the Old Testament, I doubt very seriously if there would be a Religious Right, an Liberal Left, or moderates in between left on this Earth. Especially in the quasi-Judeo-Christian majority of the United States.

Where am I going with this? The concept of Equality and Fairness often intersect, but they are not the same.

Granting same-sex marriages may be fair but it will not be equal. Same-sex marriages will be put under more scrutiny than those of heterosexuals. Same-sex marriages will force declarations of one’s sexual orientation and provoke more classification. While no one questions the legitimacy of a heterosexual marriage if both parties declare it, it will take some time for such legitimacy to be unchallenged for homosexual couples. Mainly because, although there were homosexual companions throughout history, marriage in most religions and laws is implied and defined as a husband and wife, man and woman in a legal and spiritual covenant. Religions and laws are man-made, so one could argue that even from a divine or atheist point of view, marriage was defined this way. Because of the dissimilarity of the basic tenant of marriage participants, same-sex marriages will never be equal to heterosexual ones. I know this will anger some and incite many flames, but certain things may approach equality, but never be equal. EEOC, Affirmative Action, etc. helped level the playing field, but by no means is the employment structure or workforce equal for minorities. It may be fair in terms of who can apply, but the ending result is that proportionately speaking, it’s not equal.

With all that said, I use God given discernment when approaching this issue of same-sex marriage. God-given doesn’t mean quoting scripture from The Torah, Bible, or Koran, as they all did not originate in English and even interpretations of the “so-called” original texts may vary. What I discerned from this issue is a population that feels marginalized based on perceived rights. Granted we can find more reasons to be separate, folks are actually fighting over legitimizing a union. A union that doesn't necessarily need to be broken, but one that may not be equal or approach equality nonetheless.

Tell us the definite effect of legal gay marriage that is visible and provable enough to justify an eternal ban on all gay marriage.

Keep in mind, that it is legal to take the Lord's name in vain.

Keep in mind, that it is legal to curse God.

Keep in mind, that while you are worrying about the girl with two moms...Shaniqua has 4 baby-daddys.

and man, can't anyone here count? Blacks were considered 3/5ths human not 2/3rds...

i mentioned fornication, adultery, pedophilia also, so why curse my posterity and say I'm throwing stones at only 'gays'? no one has justified out of wedlock sex

lies. u guys don't fight fair. and u proved my point about using children to advance a political agenda or in this case just attack someone of another belief.

In Jesus' name all of my children, children's children, loved ones, family members and friends will make the right choices about their God-given sexuality and walk in full 100% deliverance from everything and anything that is not from God. I plead the blood of Jesus over them to protect them and heal them in every area. I pray for all of the people who have posted here tonight. The Lord touch their hearts, have mercy, protect and bless them; minister peace and wholeness to all of our lives, in Jesus' precious name, AMEN.

Taking the Lord's name in vain is a terrible sin...but it is legal.

Outright defiance and atheism are 'sins', but are legal.

Worshipping all other Gods, is a 'sin' but it is totally legal.

Blasphemy, the highest and most unforgivable sin, is...legal.

We do not have a Christian Theocracy. (Thank goodness we dont)

BAN DIVORCE or ALLOW MARRIAGE EQUALITY

So, lets look at a Dan Divorce draft:
1. A constitutional amendment banning divorce.
2. A federal law making adultery a felony.
3. A federal law making cunnilingus and fellatio (i.e., sodomy) a felony, even for married couples in the privacy of their own homes.

Try taking that for a public vote!!

Lets let the people vote on whether or not Satanists can get legal marriage.

Or, lets go back and let the people vote on interracial marriage.

Somehow, the will of the people is only 'silenced' when they are rightfully blocked from imposing unconstitutional rhetoric on the laws of the minority.

Can Jewish parents ban all pork? They don't want their kids to be shown that its acceptable to eat pork...so lets ban pork for everyone else too.

People 'allude' to the 'dangers' in the future from gay marriage...yet refuse to actually EXPLAIN them. They raise a fuss to block gay marriage, yet have done nothing to ban violent rap music.

As a black man, I've studied our history. Before races met each other an began racism...people oppressed their gay members. Their fight is OLDER than the black fight against racism. Fact.

Google Bayard Rustin.

And that's exactly my point: Tamika got 4 baby daddies and NOT married is not good and a huge tax burden to all gay and straight citizens.

Leave the 1st Amendment alone until the government stops you from expressing yourself; THEN you can whip it out and start cutting a bitch.