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	<title>Comments on: LL&#8217;s 2009 Capital Pride Reviewing Stand</title>
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		<title>By: JayAre</title>
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		<dc:creator>JayAre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next, they will be indoctrinating the young kids in sexual diversity like California is doing. We are living in the last days and times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next, they will be indoctrinating the young kids in sexual diversity like California is doing. We are living in the last days and times.</p>
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		<title>By: NCA&#38;T Grad</title>
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		<dc:creator>NCA&#38;T Grad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D.C. is now Sodom and Gomorrah and this city will feel God&#039;s wrath. You can&#039;t celebrate man&#039;s laws and forget God&#039;s laws. Many white gay homosexuals and the D.C. Council along with nappy headed Eleanor Holmes Norton are Godless and they will repent in the end. Mayor Adrian Malik Fenty is an atheist. May God have mercy on D.C. when the Rapture comes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D.C. is now Sodom and Gomorrah and this city will feel God's wrath. You can't celebrate man's laws and forget God's laws. Many white gay homosexuals and the D.C. Council along with nappy headed Eleanor Holmes Norton are Godless and they will repent in the end. Mayor Adrian Malik Fenty is an atheist. May God have mercy on D.C. when the Rapture comes.</p>
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		<title>By: KCinDC</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/06/15/lls-2009-capital-pride-reviewing-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-600734</link>
		<dc:creator>KCinDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q, the politicians voted to recognize same-sex marriage. I expect most, if not all, of them will vote later this year to legalize same-sex marriages performed in DC. What exactly is it that supporters of marriage equality should be unhappy with them about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q, the politicians voted to recognize same-sex marriage. I expect most, if not all, of them will vote later this year to legalize same-sex marriages performed in DC. What exactly is it that supporters of marriage equality should be unhappy with them about?</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typo Alert: &quot;(no offense WCP or LL)&quot; and &quot;how sincere ... should OUR expectations be ...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo Alert: "(no offense WCP or LL)" and "how sincere ... should OUR expectations be ..."</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/06/15/lls-2009-capital-pride-reviewing-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-600478</link>
		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DCBob, Flowers might&#039;ve given that account recently, but when hard pressed, several of the Councilmenbers (some at the Capital Pride Parade), backpedaled a bit regarding letting the citizens decide.  It wasn&#039;t just Harry Thomas Jr. or Yvette Alexander saying this.  Bowser and Kwame Brown gave rare constituent-based commentary.  

So instead of asking the Council individually on their opinions, should I simply forward all requests to Brian Flowers?

Since I kinda started this discussion (no office WCP or LL), what I&#039;m getting at is simply how sincere or trustworthy should are expectations be towards our elected officials?

My opinion, if you haven&#039;t gleaned it by now, is to be leary of politicians bearing gifts.  I wonder if there was a &quot;Gays against Fenty&quot; platform or signs, other than Clark Ray being present?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DCBob, Flowers might've given that account recently, but when hard pressed, several of the Councilmenbers (some at the Capital Pride Parade), backpedaled a bit regarding letting the citizens decide.  It wasn't just Harry Thomas Jr. or Yvette Alexander saying this.  Bowser and Kwame Brown gave rare constituent-based commentary.  </p>
<p>So instead of asking the Council individually on their opinions, should I simply forward all requests to Brian Flowers?</p>
<p>Since I kinda started this discussion (no office WCP or LL), what I'm getting at is simply how sincere or trustworthy should are expectations be towards our elected officials?</p>
<p>My opinion, if you haven't gleaned it by now, is to be leary of politicians bearing gifts.  I wonder if there was a "Gays against Fenty" platform or signs, other than Clark Ray being present?</p>
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		<title>By: DCBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>DCBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, none of the Councilmembers changed their position on a referendum. They just stated them for the first time. The opinion of the Council, as delivered by the General Counsel Brian Flowers, is that a referendum on the bill is improper because it would authorize discrimination prohibited under the Human Rights Act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, none of the Councilmembers changed their position on a referendum. They just stated them for the first time. The opinion of the Council, as delivered by the General Counsel Brian Flowers, is that a referendum on the bill is improper because it would authorize discrimination prohibited under the Human Rights Act.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should, to the extent that any politician should be taken seriously. All they care about are votes - your votes, our votes, anyone&#039;s votes.

So if you want to influence the political process successfully, like the GLBT community clearly has done, get your people to the polls and start shelling out bucks to the lawmakers who stick up for your causes.

That&#039;s the way the game is played. You can choose not to play it, but don&#039;t act all shocked sitting there on the sidelines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should, to the extent that any politician should be taken seriously. All they care about are votes - your votes, our votes, anyone's votes.</p>
<p>So if you want to influence the political process successfully, like the GLBT community clearly has done, get your people to the polls and start shelling out bucks to the lawmakers who stick up for your causes.</p>
<p>That's the way the game is played. You can choose not to play it, but don't act all shocked sitting there on the sidelines.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That being said Dave...the pandering comment and all, SHOULD THEY BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That being said Dave...the pandering comment and all, SHOULD THEY BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY then?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh yeah... I&#039;m going to have to disagree with you there. I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any possible circumstance in which a DC politician would ever march in a KKK rally. True, they might lose some white-hooded votes, but I think the politicians can live with that.

As for your other point, that the mayor and the council members are only parading to win votes, well yeah, duh. THEY&#039;RE POLITICIANS! That&#039;s what they do! It&#039;s pretty much their only job requirement. You should be happy that they view the GLBT community as being powerful enough that they have to pander to it, unlike the aforementioned white supremacist crowd, which they just ignore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh yeah... I'm going to have to disagree with you there. I don't think there's any possible circumstance in which a DC politician would ever march in a KKK rally. True, they might lose some white-hooded votes, but I think the politicians can live with that.</p>
<p>As for your other point, that the mayor and the council members are only parading to win votes, well yeah, duh. THEY'RE POLITICIANS! That's what they do! It's pretty much their only job requirement. You should be happy that they view the GLBT community as being powerful enough that they have to pander to it, unlike the aforementioned white supremacist crowd, which they just ignore.</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, my point is that most of the elected officials present were PRO- same-sex marriage, then PRO- referendum (putting it to the people to decide, only when outrage increased).  Yet, they march in the parade and smile as if everything is okay.  

Granted not all (note I said some), switched positions in terms of the referendum, but honestly, I would hope that GLBT folks can see through the obvious smoke screen put out by some of the elected officials.  There presence at the parade wasn&#039;t really about support, unless they were solicited to participate.  There presence was about being seen, faux solidarity, and giving the illusion of support while trying to garner potential votes.

Look at it like this, note how many {INSERT POLITICIAN NAME HERE} signs there were.  If they were really supporting and celebrating GLBT, it wouldn&#039;t be about electioneering, campaigning, etc.  What LL captured was opportunistic politicians...unless like I said before that the council who sponsored this event solicited elected officials attendance.

I also doubt that the Mayor or Council would march in a KKK rally, but the question remains, depending on the event, some would march simply to get their names out there.  Not for any real reason of support.

Fenty having his SONS there was an interesting touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, my point is that most of the elected officials present were PRO- same-sex marriage, then PRO- referendum (putting it to the people to decide, only when outrage increased).  Yet, they march in the parade and smile as if everything is okay.  </p>
<p>Granted not all (note I said some), switched positions in terms of the referendum, but honestly, I would hope that GLBT folks can see through the obvious smoke screen put out by some of the elected officials.  There presence at the parade wasn't really about support, unless they were solicited to participate.  There presence was about being seen, faux solidarity, and giving the illusion of support while trying to garner potential votes.</p>
<p>Look at it like this, note how many {INSERT POLITICIAN NAME HERE} signs there were.  If they were really supporting and celebrating GLBT, it wouldn't be about electioneering, campaigning, etc.  What LL captured was opportunistic politicians...unless like I said before that the council who sponsored this event solicited elected officials attendance.</p>
<p>I also doubt that the Mayor or Council would march in a KKK rally, but the question remains, depending on the event, some would march simply to get their names out there.  Not for any real reason of support.</p>
<p>Fenty having his SONS there was an interesting touch.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would D.C. politicians march in a neo-Nazi parade? Hmm... I&#039;m going to go with no on that one, but that&#039;s pure speculation. LL, you&#039;re the expert here. What do you think?

And Q, what was your point again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would D.C. politicians march in a neo-Nazi parade? Hmm... I'm going to go with no on that one, but that's pure speculation. LL, you're the expert here. What do you think?</p>
<p>And Q, what was your point again?</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of campaign vehicles, obviously some of these were not personally owned (non DC Tags), but what&#039;s up with the Fenty-mobile?  No front tag, isn&#039;t that a ticketable offense?

The fact that EHN can show her face after the &#039;Vote&#039; failed takes some guts.  She looks well though.  LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of campaign vehicles, obviously some of these were not personally owned (non DC Tags), but what's up with the Fenty-mobile?  No front tag, isn't that a ticketable offense?</p>
<p>The fact that EHN can show her face after the 'Vote' failed takes some guts.  She looks well though.  LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please forgive me, but these photos are about as sincere as their support.  LL this is basically a political publicity stunt if I ever heard/read one.  The newest victim, the GLBT population.  It deftly shows that politicians will get face time with ANYBODY for their support.  So, from LL&#039;s portrayal, does that mean Harry Thomas, Marion Barry, Michael A. Brown, Yvette Alexander don&#039;t support the GLBT population?  Were they not able to rent expensive cars in time?  Were their beads held up in delivery?

Passing out beads, grinning, and driving (renting) expensive cars is all about campaigning.  Makes me wonder though, if there was a Christian Pride parade would they be out in force passing out green crosses.  Or if there was a KKK or Neo-Nazi parade would they be passing out swatzikas, etc.

If only we could get them to come out and support...say ALL of DC citizens, maybe things could be a little better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please forgive me, but these photos are about as sincere as their support.  LL this is basically a political publicity stunt if I ever heard/read one.  The newest victim, the GLBT population.  It deftly shows that politicians will get face time with ANYBODY for their support.  So, from LL's portrayal, does that mean Harry Thomas, Marion Barry, Michael A. Brown, Yvette Alexander don't support the GLBT population?  Were they not able to rent expensive cars in time?  Were their beads held up in delivery?</p>
<p>Passing out beads, grinning, and driving (renting) expensive cars is all about campaigning.  Makes me wonder though, if there was a Christian Pride parade would they be out in force passing out green crosses.  Or if there was a KKK or Neo-Nazi parade would they be passing out swatzikas, etc.</p>
<p>If only we could get them to come out and support...say ALL of DC citizens, maybe things could be a little better.</p>
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		<title>By: huh?</title>
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		<dc:creator>huh?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Jim Graham okay?  He looks pretty unhealthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Jim Graham okay?  He looks pretty unhealthy.</p>
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