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	<title>Comments on: The DeOnte Rawlings Files Part 7: The Concerned Witness</title>
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		<title>By: Truth Hurts</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/06/04/the-deonte-rawlings-files-part-7-the-concerned-witness/comment-page-1/#comment-589018</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Hurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q: You need to read the deposition again. Midway through, Ms, Haskel says:&quot;I said is he alright, and why did you leave him&quot;. So the question as to what did he (Clay) say when you asked why did you leave him was merely a follow up. But yeah,you seem to get my point. Why was her husband around the corner and Clay driving his car? I&#039;d probably leave that one for the jury because something seems fishy. And Ms. Haskel is not Lattimer&#039;s &quot;witness&quot;. Just the opposite, she&#039;s aligned with her husband (the defendant).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q: You need to read the deposition again. Midway through, Ms, Haskel says:"I said is he alright, and why did you leave him". So the question as to what did he (Clay) say when you asked why did you leave him was merely a follow up. But yeah,you seem to get my point. Why was her husband around the corner and Clay driving his car? I'd probably leave that one for the jury because something seems fishy. And Ms. Haskel is not Lattimer's "witness". Just the opposite, she's aligned with her husband (the defendant).</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/06/04/the-deonte-rawlings-files-part-7-the-concerned-witness/comment-page-1/#comment-588471</link>
		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Truth Hurts for the compliment.  No, I&#039;m not a lawyer, but the way the deposition is written (maybe I&#039;m reading something else into it), it seems that Lattimer isn&#039;t asking straightforward questions.  The &quot;leading&quot; (in my opinion) came into play during this exchange:

Lattimer: And then you said why did you leave him, what did he say?

Haskel: He said—he said, he’s OK. That’s what he told me. He’s OK.

Lattimer: Did he tell you why he left?

Haskel: No. He didn’t tell me.

Nowhere in the earlier testimony did Mrs. Haskel mention that she asked Clay &quot;Why did you leave him?&quot;  Granted, this bit of information may not be crucial to some, it tells me that Lattimer is trying to go somewhere with it.  Meaning that in the earlier article, it is established that both Ofc. Haskel and Clay abandonded the scene with no regard for Police regulations.  The &quot;implied asking&quot; of that question by Mrs. Haskel once again establishes faulty reasoning on the account of Ofc. Clay.

I know that the purpose of this deposition is to establish &quot;truth&quot; and to contradict some of the sworn statements, but something seems missing.  Basic questions establishing the interaction seem to be assumed, rather than asking direct questions like:  &quot;On what date and approximately what time, did Ofc. Clay arrive?&quot;  &quot;What was his demeanor when he arrived?&quot; or &quot;What was your reaction to someone else driving your vehicle other than your husband?&quot;  The latter question actually presents the state of mind Ms. Haskel could&#039;ve been in which in turn could establish her difficulty in remembering events.

If someone came to my house driving my wife&#039;s car (regardless if it is a family friend), my question would first be, how did you come into possession of my wife&#039;s vehicle.  Where is my wife?  While a rational person might assume the family friend is telling the truth, unless my wife had a habit of lending her car to folk, I&#039;d want to check myself.  Not only that, but even if there was a shooting involved (assuming my wife is a cop), unless my wife was incapacitated or part of the investigation, I would assume that she would drive the car home, especially since Ofc. Haskel was just &quot;around the corner.&quot;

Like I said before, none of this may be relevant, but it paints some uncertainty on the count of this deposition.  Yes, depositions can be biased and serve a sole purpose that may not be objective.  Still, I (if I were a lawyer) would want to paint the highest of objectivity when the judge (or jury) considers the testimony of my witness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Truth Hurts for the compliment.  No, I'm not a lawyer, but the way the deposition is written (maybe I'm reading something else into it), it seems that Lattimer isn't asking straightforward questions.  The "leading" (in my opinion) came into play during this exchange:</p>
<p>Lattimer: And then you said why did you leave him, what did he say?</p>
<p>Haskel: He said—he said, he’s OK. That’s what he told me. He’s OK.</p>
<p>Lattimer: Did he tell you why he left?</p>
<p>Haskel: No. He didn’t tell me.</p>
<p>Nowhere in the earlier testimony did Mrs. Haskel mention that she asked Clay "Why did you leave him?"  Granted, this bit of information may not be crucial to some, it tells me that Lattimer is trying to go somewhere with it.  Meaning that in the earlier article, it is established that both Ofc. Haskel and Clay abandonded the scene with no regard for Police regulations.  The "implied asking" of that question by Mrs. Haskel once again establishes faulty reasoning on the account of Ofc. Clay.</p>
<p>I know that the purpose of this deposition is to establish "truth" and to contradict some of the sworn statements, but something seems missing.  Basic questions establishing the interaction seem to be assumed, rather than asking direct questions like:  "On what date and approximately what time, did Ofc. Clay arrive?"  "What was his demeanor when he arrived?" or "What was your reaction to someone else driving your vehicle other than your husband?"  The latter question actually presents the state of mind Ms. Haskel could've been in which in turn could establish her difficulty in remembering events.</p>
<p>If someone came to my house driving my wife's car (regardless if it is a family friend), my question would first be, how did you come into possession of my wife's vehicle.  Where is my wife?  While a rational person might assume the family friend is telling the truth, unless my wife had a habit of lending her car to folk, I'd want to check myself.  Not only that, but even if there was a shooting involved (assuming my wife is a cop), unless my wife was incapacitated or part of the investigation, I would assume that she would drive the car home, especially since Ofc. Haskel was just "around the corner."</p>
<p>Like I said before, none of this may be relevant, but it paints some uncertainty on the count of this deposition.  Yes, depositions can be biased and serve a sole purpose that may not be objective.  Still, I (if I were a lawyer) would want to paint the highest of objectivity when the judge (or jury) considers the testimony of my witness.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth hurts</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/06/04/the-deonte-rawlings-files-part-7-the-concerned-witness/comment-page-1/#comment-587325</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth hurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q: Several of your comments on various postings during the past few weeks were well reasoned and, in my view, hit the mark. Your comments on this one, though, are puzzling. You&#039;re obviously not a lawyer. The deposition questions were not &quot;leading&quot;. Example of a leading question would be: Isn&#039;t it true, Ms. Haskel, that you did not tell Clay that a boy had been shot? And &quot;leading&quot; questions are permissible anyway when questioning a witness aligned with a defendant (her husband). But what puzzles me is why you didn&#039;t address the substance of her sworn testimony, which seems to contrsdict the sworn testimony of Clay. And why is Officer Haskel around the corner somewhere? Pretty strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q: Several of your comments on various postings during the past few weeks were well reasoned and, in my view, hit the mark. Your comments on this one, though, are puzzling. You're obviously not a lawyer. The deposition questions were not "leading". Example of a leading question would be: Isn't it true, Ms. Haskel, that you did not tell Clay that a boy had been shot? And "leading" questions are permissible anyway when questioning a witness aligned with a defendant (her husband). But what puzzles me is why you didn't address the substance of her sworn testimony, which seems to contrsdict the sworn testimony of Clay. And why is Officer Haskel around the corner somewhere? Pretty strange.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Cherkis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Cherkis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still thought the substance of her answers were interesting and moving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still thought the substance of her answers were interesting and moving.</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jason, your response makes the deposition even worse.  Leading the witness is still NOT ALLOWED!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jason, your response makes the deposition even worse.  Leading the witness is still NOT ALLOWED!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Cherkis</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/06/04/the-deonte-rawlings-files-part-7-the-concerned-witness/comment-page-1/#comment-587102</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Cherkis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a deposition taken. This is not from Grand Jury proceedings. Lattimer is the family&#039;s civil attorney. He had nothing to do with the grand jury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a deposition taken. This is not from Grand Jury proceedings. Lattimer is the family's civil attorney. He had nothing to do with the grand jury.</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As tragic as this case is, the deposition is just awful.  The Grand Jury must&#039;ve been wondering about her conduct and Lattimer&#039;s aptitude.  He was pretty much leading the witness in the questions if the deposition is correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As tragic as this case is, the deposition is just awful.  The Grand Jury must've been wondering about her conduct and Lattimer's aptitude.  He was pretty much leading the witness in the questions if the deposition is correct.</p>
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