Comments on: The Tragedy of H.R. Crawford Is the City’s Tragedy Too http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/ 68.3 Square Miles of D.C. News and Opinion Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:29:32 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: HR Jr http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/comment-page-1/#comment-486169 HR Jr Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:09:22 +0000 http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=11754#comment-486169 You all have gotten away from the message. He does try to help the community. The surrounding community has benefited from the developments. BTW he stopped carrying a gun in the late 90's. I carry it for him. You all have gotten away from the message. He does try to help the community. The surrounding community has benefited from the developments. BTW he stopped carrying a gun in the late 90's. I carry it for him.

]]> By: Jason Cherkis http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/comment-page-1/#comment-405019 Jason Cherkis Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:10:49 +0000 http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=11754#comment-405019 Emrj: thanks for you comment. But I have to say that a paper coupon is not housing. Try walking around with that coupon in this rental market or the way this rental market was a few years ago. How many landlords took in Section 8 tenants? There are all kinds of reasons why they don't. Emrj: thanks for you comment. But I have to say that a paper coupon is not housing. Try walking around with that coupon in this rental market or the way this rental market was a few years ago. How many landlords took in Section 8 tenants? There are all kinds of reasons why they don't.

]]> By: emrj http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/comment-page-1/#comment-405018 emrj Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:37:54 +0000 http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=11754#comment-405018 It's worth noting what the former residents receive, as well (and not just play up that they don't return in the end). They usually get a Section 8 voucher, a hugely valuable coupon that means they pay only 30% of whatever income and the government pays the rest of their rent -- up to $1600 or so. And, the residents usually get to leapfrog over the other 20,000 people on the wait list for housing vouchers. Some others get a check, typically for a few thousand. Finally, they get out of the hell hole dilapidated housing that really is not worth fixing up. It's not the best resolution, but it'd be nice to see these deals for what they are. A trade-off. It's worth noting what the former residents receive, as well (and not just play up that they don't return in the end). They usually get a Section 8 voucher, a hugely valuable coupon that means they pay only 30% of whatever income and the government pays the rest of their rent -- up to $1600 or so. And, the residents usually get to leapfrog over the other 20,000 people on the wait list for housing vouchers. Some others get a check, typically for a few thousand. Finally, they get out of the hell hole dilapidated housing that really is not worth fixing up.

It's not the best resolution, but it'd be nice to see these deals for what they are. A trade-off.

]]> By: Jason Cherkis http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/comment-page-1/#comment-404438 Jason Cherkis Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:01:36 +0000 http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=11754#comment-404438 Jim: this is the first thing you've written where I actually had to chuckle. Jim: this is the first thing you've written where I actually had to chuckle.

]]> By: Jim http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/comment-page-1/#comment-404433 Jim Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:28:47 +0000 http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=11754#comment-404433 zzzzzzzzzzzz (Just kidding. I thought it was an excellent blog post.) zzzzzzzzzzzz

(Just kidding. I thought it was an excellent blog post.)

]]> By: Jason Cherkis http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/comment-page-1/#comment-404430 Jason Cherkis Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:21:37 +0000 http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=11754#comment-404430 Wow the majority of these comments have nothing to do with my blog post about how the city displaces its poor. Great job! Wow the majority of these comments have nothing to do with my blog post about how the city displaces its poor. Great job!

]]> By: Amanda Hess http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/comment-page-1/#comment-404422 Amanda Hess Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:29:10 +0000 http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=11754#comment-404422 Dave---aren't you an aspiring journo student? Fact check it yourself! Dave---aren't you an aspiring journo student? Fact check it yourself!

]]> By: Mike Licht http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/comment-page-1/#comment-404421 Mike Licht Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:22:59 +0000 http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=11754#comment-404421 Sorry to interrupt, but does HR still carry a gun? Just checking. Sorry to interrupt, but does HR still carry a gun?

Just checking.

]]> By: Dave http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/comment-page-1/#comment-404420 Dave Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:01:38 +0000 http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=11754#comment-404420 I agree there's a difference between blog posts and front page stories. But I think we're on a slippery slope here if we say that blogs can be shitty because they're blogs. Even the most half-baked blog postings, and there are quite a few of them on this site, have to be accurate. Also, there's nothing wrong with the City Paper acting as a watchdog on other media outlets, as long as they don't do it in a smug/self-important/dickish manner. That means you, Mr. Nine Errorless Semesters. (Btw, can someone fact check that? I'm not calling Cherkis a liar, but his claim strikes me as dubious.) I agree there's a difference between blog posts and front page stories. But I think we're on a slippery slope here if we say that blogs can be shitty because they're blogs. Even the most half-baked blog postings, and there are quite a few of them on this site, have to be accurate.

Also, there's nothing wrong with the City Paper acting as a watchdog on other media outlets, as long as they don't do it in a smug/self-important/dickish manner. That means you, Mr. Nine Errorless Semesters. (Btw, can someone fact check that? I'm not calling Cherkis a liar, but his claim strikes me as dubious.)

]]> By: Amanda Hess http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/comment-page-1/#comment-404418 Amanda Hess Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:55:51 +0000 http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=11754#comment-404418 An entire post? Surely, a half-post or quarter-post would have sufficed. An entire post? Surely, a half-post or quarter-post would have sufficed.

]]> By: Andrew Beaujon http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/comment-page-1/#comment-404417 Andrew Beaujon Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:53:39 +0000 http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=11754#comment-404417 I'm with Jim on this won. I'm with Jim on this won.

]]> By: urban pioneer http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/comment-page-1/#comment-404412 urban pioneer Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:29:02 +0000 http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=11754#comment-404412 and jim still fails to see the difference between a front page story in a printed newspaper and a blog item!! and jim still fails to see the difference between a front page story in a printed newspaper and a blog item!!

]]> By: Jim http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/comment-page-1/#comment-404403 Jim Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:40:48 +0000 http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=11754#comment-404403 I completely agree, Amanda. Your publication absolutely ought to serve as a watchdog of other local (and even national) publications, and as you say, just because City Paper makes mistakes doesn’t mean they shouldn’t critique other publications. What I have a problem with is City Paper’s version of being a “watchdog” on press matters seems to be limited to petty matters, especially when Cherkis is the writer (though the things Wemple has recently taken issue with have been pretty irrelevant). I find it laughable that Cherkis saw fit to make an entire post out of another publication’s misspelling of a name in the dateline (or whatever that’s called in the Examiner—the name was actually spelled properly throughout the story) when his stories have so many errors in them. And then not being able to take it when called on his sloppy and lazy writing. So, if he's going to make hay out of misspellings by other publications on this blog, I will happily point out how this "senior writer" doesn't understand "who's" vs. "whose" and any other freshman mistake he might make. I completely agree, Amanda. Your publication absolutely ought to serve as a watchdog of other local (and even national) publications, and as you say, just because City Paper makes mistakes doesn’t mean they shouldn’t critique other publications.

What I have a problem with is City Paper’s version of being a “watchdog” on press matters seems to be limited to petty matters, especially when Cherkis is the writer (though the things Wemple has recently taken issue with have been pretty irrelevant).

I find it laughable that Cherkis saw fit to make an entire post out of another publication’s misspelling of a name in the dateline (or whatever that’s called in the Examiner—the name was actually spelled properly throughout the story) when his stories have so many errors in them. And then not being able to take it when called on his sloppy and lazy writing.

So, if he's going to make hay out of misspellings by other publications on this blog, I will happily point out how this "senior writer" doesn't understand "who's" vs. "whose" and any other freshman mistake he might make.

]]> By: Amanda Hess http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/comment-page-1/#comment-404401 Amanda Hess Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:20:15 +0000 http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=11754#comment-404401 It's not particularly helpful to say that because one newspaper makes errors, it can't call another newspaper on its own mistakes. We're all watchdogs of each other. The Examiner---and Jim---are welcome to critique our product, too. It's not particularly helpful to say that because one newspaper makes errors, it can't call another newspaper on its own mistakes. We're all watchdogs of each other. The Examiner---and Jim---are welcome to critique our product, too.

]]> By: Arthur Delaney http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/12/08/the-tragedy-of-hr-crawford-is-the-citys-tragedy-too/comment-page-1/#comment-404387 Arthur Delaney Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:14:52 +0000 http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/?p=11754#comment-404387 That's awesome that your one correction in college was for a real boner. That's awesome that your one correction in college was for a real boner.

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