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		<title>By: Ernest</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/11/20/to-cease-smoking-is-the-easiest-thing-i-ever-did-i-ought-to-know-because-ive-done-it-a-thousand-times/comment-page-1/#comment-400962</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why you little dirty piece of poo, eddie. How dared you. Someone should learn you a lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why you little dirty piece of poo, eddie. How dared you. Someone should learn you a lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: eddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a bit after the fact, but you all do realize that &#039;peggy&#039;, &#039;bobby&#039; and &#039;ernest&#039; are, in fact, the same person, right?  admins check the ip from which this idiot posts.  he has MPD.

good luck quitting smoking, smokers.

that is all.  good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a bit after the fact, but you all do realize that &#8216;peggy&#8217;, &#8216;bobby&#8217; and &#8216;ernest&#8217; are, in fact, the same person, right?  admins check the ip from which this idiot posts.  he has MPD.</p>
<p>good luck quitting smoking, smokers.</p>
<p>that is all.  good day.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/11/20/to-cease-smoking-is-the-easiest-thing-i-ever-did-i-ought-to-know-because-ive-done-it-a-thousand-times/comment-page-1/#comment-392997</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for asking Ted. No he did not. I am still unawares as to the title of the song. Little help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for asking Ted. No he did not. I am still unawares as to the title of the song. Little help?</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey Silk</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/11/20/to-cease-smoking-is-the-easiest-thing-i-ever-did-i-ought-to-know-because-ive-done-it-a-thousand-times/comment-page-1/#comment-392984</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey Silk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda&#039;s point of view regarding the Twain (mis)quote is why the anti-smokers have gotten as far as they have.  The general public has little understanding over how their propaganda campaign works.  The Twain issue is just one symptom (a clue) of the whole disease.  

It doesn&#039;t matter that YOU don&#039;t think it&#039;s neither smokers&#039; rights or anti-smoker.  The ANTI-SMOKERS have taken ownership of it to USE for their stop smoking material. THEY think it&#039;s theirs (anti-smoker).  The &quot;addict&quot; has been one of their stongest weapons to intervene in people&#039;s choices through legislation and taxation:  &quot;They (smokers) wouldn&#039;t smoke if they weren&#039;t addicted and not thinking straight because of it.  Therefore we must &#039;help&#039; them.&quot; They DO use it against us.  

And don&#039;t ignore the fact that Twain NEVER said it.  Yet the anti-smokers use it to shore up support for themselves.  Just like using any other celebrity to enhance their &quot;product.&quot;

Amanda, you are not an ANTI-smoker obviously.  It&#039;s possible you smoke but I&#039;m guessing you don&#039;t.  So then, that would make you a NON-smoker -- a different animal from the antis who are rabidly for scorning smokers.  They try to lay claim to you (the non-smoker) too and say they speak for you.

What makes it difficult for the smokers&#039; rights people to combat the anti-smokers hate campaign -- that DOES seek to scorn (and that&#039;s putting it mildly) smokers -- is the naivete over what&#039;s going by the non-smokers.

That&#039;s why I was attracted by Mike&#039;s piece in the first place.  It&#039;s a welcomed rare voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda&#8217;s point of view regarding the Twain (mis)quote is why the anti-smokers have gotten as far as they have.  The general public has little understanding over how their propaganda campaign works.  The Twain issue is just one symptom (a clue) of the whole disease.  </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter that YOU don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s neither smokers&#8217; rights or anti-smoker.  The ANTI-SMOKERS have taken ownership of it to USE for their stop smoking material. THEY think it&#8217;s theirs (anti-smoker).  The &#8220;addict&#8221; has been one of their stongest weapons to intervene in people&#8217;s choices through legislation and taxation:  &#8220;They (smokers) wouldn&#8217;t smoke if they weren&#8217;t addicted and not thinking straight because of it.  Therefore we must &#8216;help&#8217; them.&#8221; They DO use it against us.  </p>
<p>And don&#8217;t ignore the fact that Twain NEVER said it.  Yet the anti-smokers use it to shore up support for themselves.  Just like using any other celebrity to enhance their &#8220;product.&#8221;</p>
<p>Amanda, you are not an ANTI-smoker obviously.  It&#8217;s possible you smoke but I&#8217;m guessing you don&#8217;t.  So then, that would make you a NON-smoker &#8212; a different animal from the antis who are rabidly for scorning smokers.  They try to lay claim to you (the non-smoker) too and say they speak for you.</p>
<p>What makes it difficult for the smokers&#8217; rights people to combat the anti-smokers hate campaign &#8212; that DOES seek to scorn (and that&#8217;s putting it mildly) smokers &#8212; is the naivete over what&#8217;s going by the non-smokers.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I was attracted by Mike&#8217;s piece in the first place.  It&#8217;s a welcomed rare voice.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/11/20/to-cease-smoking-is-the-easiest-thing-i-ever-did-i-ought-to-know-because-ive-done-it-a-thousand-times/comment-page-1/#comment-392929</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda, thank you for making it sound so nice and sparkling clear. I also think it a bit amusing that the smoke exhaled from smokers&#039; nostrils esembles a pair of tusks. 

“apocryphal” ? Hmm.  Riggs, this won&#039;t do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda, thank you for making it sound so nice and sparkling clear. I also think it a bit amusing that the smoke exhaled from smokers&#8217; nostrils esembles a pair of tusks. </p>
<p>“apocryphal” ? Hmm.  Riggs, this won&#8217;t do.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Scheinman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Scheinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, did Cherkis ever get back to you on that song title?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, did Cherkis ever get back to you on that song title?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ernest&#039;s silence on this thread is deafening.</description>
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		<title>By: Amanda Hess</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/11/20/to-cease-smoking-is-the-easiest-thing-i-ever-did-i-ought-to-know-because-ive-done-it-a-thousand-times/comment-page-1/#comment-392906</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Hess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether or not the quote is Twain&#039;s, aying that tobacco is addictive is neither pro-smoker or anti-smoker. It&#039;s just largely true. You can admit that smoking is addictive and not be against it. You can also be against smoking without scorning smokers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether or not the quote is Twain&#8217;s, aying that tobacco is addictive is neither pro-smoker or anti-smoker. It&#8217;s just largely true. You can admit that smoking is addictive and not be against it. You can also be against smoking without scorning smokers.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey Silk</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/11/20/to-cease-smoking-is-the-easiest-thing-i-ever-did-i-ought-to-know-because-ive-done-it-a-thousand-times/comment-page-1/#comment-392894</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey Silk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s easy to make that mistake, Mike, but indeed the anti-smokers are the ones who use it for their purposes and even put it up on their own web sites.  To them, it means Twain would have quit if only tobacco, as they imply he agrees (with them), weren&#039;t so addicting.  

I believe in backing up my statements so here is just one example:  http://www.smokefreemv.com/quit.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easy to make that mistake, Mike, but indeed the anti-smokers are the ones who use it for their purposes and even put it up on their own web sites.  To them, it means Twain would have quit if only tobacco, as they imply he agrees (with them), weren&#8217;t so addicting.  </p>
<p>I believe in backing up my statements so here is just one example:  <a href="http://www.smokefreemv.com/quit.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smokefreemv.com/quit.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/11/20/to-cease-smoking-is-the-easiest-thing-i-ever-did-i-ought-to-know-because-ive-done-it-a-thousand-times/comment-page-1/#comment-392884</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;apocryphal&quot;, for phuck&#039;s sake... Ern, unleash your fury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;apocryphal&#8221;, for phuck&#8217;s sake&#8230; Ern, unleash your fury.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/11/20/to-cease-smoking-is-the-easiest-thing-i-ever-did-i-ought-to-know-because-ive-done-it-a-thousand-times/comment-page-1/#comment-392879</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ernest&#039;s work is never done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ernest&#8217;s work is never done.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/11/20/to-cease-smoking-is-the-easiest-thing-i-ever-did-i-ought-to-know-because-ive-done-it-a-thousand-times/comment-page-1/#comment-392866</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He said “apocryphal”. This is a job for Ernest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He said “apocryphal”. This is a job for Ernest.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Riggs</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/11/20/to-cease-smoking-is-the-easiest-thing-i-ever-did-i-ought-to-know-because-ive-done-it-a-thousand-times/comment-page-1/#comment-392750</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Riggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reid, &quot;Pariahs&quot;? Sure. But public health people openly condone scorning smokers in a way that they don&#039;t condone attacking the obese. After all, how often do you witness a thin person tell a fat person eating an eclair, &quot;Those things will kill you, y&#039;know&quot;?

Audrey, I&#039;m sorry to learn that the Twain quote is apocryphal--I interpreted it as a &lt;em&gt;pro-smoking&lt;/em&gt; quote. After all, quitting 1,000 times comes out to once every two weeks or so, which isn&#039;t quitting at all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reid, &#8220;Pariahs&#8221;? Sure. But public health people openly condone scorning smokers in a way that they don&#8217;t condone attacking the obese. After all, how often do you witness a thin person tell a fat person eating an eclair, &#8220;Those things will kill you, y&#8217;know&#8221;?</p>
<p>Audrey, I&#8217;m sorry to learn that the Twain quote is apocryphal&#8211;I interpreted it as a <em>pro-smoking</em> quote. After all, quitting 1,000 times comes out to once every two weeks or so, which isn&#8217;t quitting at all!</p>
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		<title>By: Reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, are you suggesting that society doesn&#039;t make pariahs out of fat people? Are you kidding me?

The day 8 decades worth of movies equate being fat with being cool, that&#039;s the day you can say that society makes it harder on smokers than on fat peeps.

Also, I don&#039;t see how that fake-Twain quote is even anti-smoking. It seems to be belittling the very idea that you ought to quit permanently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, are you suggesting that society doesn&#8217;t make pariahs out of fat people? Are you kidding me?</p>
<p>The day 8 decades worth of movies equate being fat with being cool, that&#8217;s the day you can say that society makes it harder on smokers than on fat peeps.</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t see how that fake-Twain quote is even anti-smoking. It seems to be belittling the very idea that you ought to quit permanently.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey Silk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Audrey Silk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, you might be happy to learn that even Mark Twain was one of us.  That quote of his?  A myth.  Mark Twain hijacked as a spokesperson by the anti-smoker crowd. A lie but what&#039;s new for them?

According to Snopes.com (that myth-buster site):

Mark Twain uttered a great many memorable lines during his lifetime, but he has also had many a saying attributed to him that he never gave voice to. Other apocryphal Twainisms include: &quot;To cease smoking is the easiest thing I ever did. I ought to know because I&#039;ve done it a thousand times.&quot; http://www.snopes.com/quotes/twain.asp

In fact, Twain found the anti-smoker as utterly annoying as many other people who want to be left alone to smoke.  From Mark Twain in The Californian, June 17, 1865,Answers to Correspondents:

&quot;MORAL STATISTICIAN. - I don&#039;t want any of your statistics. I took your whole batch and lit my pipe with it. I hate your kind of people. You are always ciphering out how much a man&#039;s health is injured, and how much his intellect is impaired, and how many pitiful dollars and cents he wastes in the course of ninety-two years&#039; indulgence in the fatal practice of smoking; and in the equally fatal practice of drinking coffee; and in playing billiards occasionally; and in taking a glass of wine at dinner, etc., etc., etc...&quot;

The rest here:  http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/t/twain/mark/paine/index.html

 
Twain must roll over in his grave everytime an anti mutters his name in their war on smokers.

Audrey Silk
Founder, NYC Citizens Lobbying Against Smoker Harassment 
(C.L.A.S.H.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, you might be happy to learn that even Mark Twain was one of us.  That quote of his?  A myth.  Mark Twain hijacked as a spokesperson by the anti-smoker crowd. A lie but what&#8217;s new for them?</p>
<p>According to Snopes.com (that myth-buster site):</p>
<p>Mark Twain uttered a great many memorable lines during his lifetime, but he has also had many a saying attributed to him that he never gave voice to. Other apocryphal Twainisms include: &#8220;To cease smoking is the easiest thing I ever did. I ought to know because I&#8217;ve done it a thousand times.&#8221; <a href="http://www.snopes.com/quotes/twain.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/quotes/twain.asp</a></p>
<p>In fact, Twain found the anti-smoker as utterly annoying as many other people who want to be left alone to smoke.  From Mark Twain in The Californian, June 17, 1865,Answers to Correspondents:</p>
<p>&#8220;MORAL STATISTICIAN. &#8211; I don&#8217;t want any of your statistics. I took your whole batch and lit my pipe with it. I hate your kind of people. You are always ciphering out how much a man&#8217;s health is injured, and how much his intellect is impaired, and how many pitiful dollars and cents he wastes in the course of ninety-two years&#8217; indulgence in the fatal practice of smoking; and in the equally fatal practice of drinking coffee; and in playing billiards occasionally; and in taking a glass of wine at dinner, etc., etc., etc&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The rest here:  <a href="http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/t/twain/mark/paine/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/t/twain/mark/paine/index.html</a></p>
<p>Twain must roll over in his grave everytime an anti mutters his name in their war on smokers.</p>
<p>Audrey Silk<br />
Founder, NYC Citizens Lobbying Against Smoker Harassment<br />
(C.L.A.S.H.)</p>
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