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		<title>By: tax man</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/07/17/fun-with-espresso-and-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-200680</link>
		<dc:creator>tax man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Defacing&quot; money isn&#039;t a crime in the US. I think you&#039;re thinking of the UK, where I&#039;m pretty sure you&#039;re not allowed to deface images of the Queen (eg on money).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Defacing" money isn't a crime in the US. I think you're thinking of the UK, where I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to deface images of the Queen (eg on money).</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/07/17/fun-with-espresso-and-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-200072</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Penis, you are as smart as  penis can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penis, you are as smart as  penis can be.</p>
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		<title>By: thepenismightier</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/07/17/fun-with-espresso-and-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-200057</link>
		<dc:creator>thepenismightier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What this douchebag failed to realize is he didn&#039;t PAY for the ice.  The barista had an opportunity there, to deny the ice, and missed it.

Also, I forget, is it a douchebag or a douchenozzle who commits the federal crime of defacing U.S. currency and then documents it on his own blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What this douchebag failed to realize is he didn't PAY for the ice.  The barista had an opportunity there, to deny the ice, and missed it.</p>
<p>Also, I forget, is it a douchebag or a douchenozzle who commits the federal crime of defacing U.S. currency and then documents it on his own blog?</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/07/17/fun-with-espresso-and-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-200001</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The man&#8217;s successful lifestyle complete with a good job and even dancing girlfriend  is somewhat undermined in  wayward coffeehouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man&#8217;s successful lifestyle complete with a good job and even dancing girlfriend  is somewhat undermined in  wayward coffeehouse.</p>
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		<title>By: tax man</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/07/17/fun-with-espresso-and-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-198732</link>
		<dc:creator>tax man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Mr. Cho.  Only taxpayers are allowed to punch people in the genitals.

For someone who describes himself as a people person (as Mr. Cho did in the March article in the Post about his tax evasion issues), Mr. Cho shows reckless disregard for the economic interests of his employees through his mismanagement and his very likely criminal mishandling of tax receipts.  I&#039;m all for letting small businesses thrive, but the market needs to shake out those who threaten customers and those who collect sales tax and then pocket the taxpayers&#039; money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Mr. Cho.  Only taxpayers are allowed to punch people in the genitals.</p>
<p>For someone who describes himself as a people person (as Mr. Cho did in the March article in the Post about his tax evasion issues), Mr. Cho shows reckless disregard for the economic interests of his employees through his mismanagement and his very likely criminal mishandling of tax receipts.  I'm all for letting small businesses thrive, but the market needs to shake out those who threaten customers and those who collect sales tax and then pocket the taxpayers' money.</p>
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		<title>By: sock puppet</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/07/17/fun-with-espresso-and-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-198094</link>
		<dc:creator>sock puppet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A chicken (preferably male), a blender, and a straw.  Would you like that over ice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A chicken (preferably male), a blender, and a straw.  Would you like that over ice?</p>
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		<title>By: J.</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/07/17/fun-with-espresso-and-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-198084</link>
		<dc:creator>J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt S. - the City paper is widely distributed and read in Arlington - so a story pertaining to Arlington is not off base. If all City paper stories remained within the District borders- there wouldnt be much to write about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt S. - the City paper is widely distributed and read in Arlington - so a story pertaining to Arlington is not off base. If all City paper stories remained within the District borders- there wouldnt be much to write about.</p>
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		<title>By: Pop Cesspool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pop Cesspool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cockpunching -- it&#039;s not just for Steven Seagal anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cockpunching -- it's not just for Steven Seagal anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: EspressoOnIceLover</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/07/17/fun-with-espresso-and-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-198022</link>
		<dc:creator>EspressoOnIceLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Once you&#8217;ve purchased a legal substance, no one other than law enforcement has the right to instruct you in how to consume it.&lt;/i&gt;

I agree, Mei-qi. Bagels are close to my soul, and it kills me to see people make them into pizza or slather peanut butter on on them. But hey. It&#039;s THEIR RIGHT. 

I, by the way, had a similar experience at Murky Coffee (minus the angry dollar bill incident). It was terrible, because like Jeff I really wanted to support independent coffee shops over Starbucks. But I never went back, and I was pleased when Murky Coffee was kicked out of Capitol Hill. (Although still concerned that the city has never received its money from the owner!)

Angela, sorry, but your blog item is way off base. Jeff&#039;s rant was funny and self-deprecating and it doesn&#039;t sound like he threw a &quot;temper tantrum&quot; at all (though I think he would have been justified!!). And who goes online to complain about stupid shit that happened to them in the course of an afternoon? Um, these days, just about everybody! Read a Facebook &quot;status update&quot; lately? 

The blogger is obviously also embarrassed by the attention this has spawned -- so much so that he wisely closed the comment section for this topic.

I think the Murky Coffee owner&#039;s bizarre and violent comments -- which by the way take Jeff&#039;s blog wildly out of context -- combined with the owner&#039;s inability to pay his taxes, puts him and his shop in a very, very bad light. Murky coffee, shady business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Once you&#8217;ve purchased a legal substance, no one other than law enforcement has the right to instruct you in how to consume it.</i></p>
<p>I agree, Mei-qi. Bagels are close to my soul, and it kills me to see people make them into pizza or slather peanut butter on on them. But hey. It's THEIR RIGHT. </p>
<p>I, by the way, had a similar experience at Murky Coffee (minus the angry dollar bill incident). It was terrible, because like Jeff I really wanted to support independent coffee shops over Starbucks. But I never went back, and I was pleased when Murky Coffee was kicked out of Capitol Hill. (Although still concerned that the city has never received its money from the owner!)</p>
<p>Angela, sorry, but your blog item is way off base. Jeff's rant was funny and self-deprecating and it doesn't sound like he threw a "temper tantrum" at all (though I think he would have been justified!!). And who goes online to complain about stupid shit that happened to them in the course of an afternoon? Um, these days, just about everybody! Read a Facebook "status update" lately? </p>
<p>The blogger is obviously also embarrassed by the attention this has spawned -- so much so that he wisely closed the comment section for this topic.</p>
<p>I think the Murky Coffee owner's bizarre and violent comments -- which by the way take Jeff's blog wildly out of context -- combined with the owner's inability to pay his taxes, puts him and his shop in a very, very bad light. Murky coffee, shady business.</p>
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		<title>By: Mei-qi</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/07/17/fun-with-espresso-and-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-197994</link>
		<dc:creator>Mei-qi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was with &quot;that guy&quot; when he purchased the first drink. He did not yell or scream, nor have anyone involved claimed that to be the case. And he is not a moron, for the record. He wanted to drink the espresso he purchased in a cup of ice (and not with a bunch of free milk from the counter.) So what? Instead of behaving in such a patronizing, condescending way and pretending that the issue was about coffee quality, maybe the barista should have informed him of the real reason for the policy or charged extra for the free milk that he feared Jeff would use. Jeff then blogged about the incident because it was amusing. If you would actually read his blog, he admitted that the dollar bill was over the top.

Apparently, this experience is about as universal as getting bad service at the DMV given the number of armchair commentators who have weighed in on his blog and others. I think you&#039;re in the minority in believing that &quot;you just don&#039;t argue with the barista.&quot; In my humble opinion, once you&#039;ve purchased a legal substance, no one other than law enforcement has the right to instruct you in how to consume it. By the way, you might want to, I don&#039;t know, read/conduct interviews/do research before commenting on someone you don&#039;t know and on an incident that you didn&#039;t witness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was with "that guy" when he purchased the first drink. He did not yell or scream, nor have anyone involved claimed that to be the case. And he is not a moron, for the record. He wanted to drink the espresso he purchased in a cup of ice (and not with a bunch of free milk from the counter.) So what? Instead of behaving in such a patronizing, condescending way and pretending that the issue was about coffee quality, maybe the barista should have informed him of the real reason for the policy or charged extra for the free milk that he feared Jeff would use. Jeff then blogged about the incident because it was amusing. If you would actually read his blog, he admitted that the dollar bill was over the top.</p>
<p>Apparently, this experience is about as universal as getting bad service at the DMV given the number of armchair commentators who have weighed in on his blog and others. I think you're in the minority in believing that "you just don't argue with the barista." In my humble opinion, once you've purchased a legal substance, no one other than law enforcement has the right to instruct you in how to consume it. By the way, you might want to, I don't know, read/conduct interviews/do research before commenting on someone you don't know and on an incident that you didn't witness.</p>
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		<title>By: RedShirt</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/07/17/fun-with-espresso-and-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-197966</link>
		<dc:creator>RedShirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t have better news to report?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don't have better news to report?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt S</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/07/17/fun-with-espresso-and-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-197950</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS.

This City Paper...not Arlington City Paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS.</p>
<p>This City Paper...not Arlington City Paper.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt S</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/07/17/fun-with-espresso-and-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-197949</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are correct, this guy is a moron. 

But it is hard to feel sorry for Murky or have any respect for the owner. 

What about the money owed to DC? Where the hell are all the taxes we paid to that asshole owner who fucked all of us over.

I guess he always had Arlington to run to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are correct, this guy is a moron. </p>
<p>But it is hard to feel sorry for Murky or have any respect for the owner. </p>
<p>What about the money owed to DC? Where the hell are all the taxes we paid to that asshole owner who fucked all of us over.</p>
<p>I guess he always had Arlington to run to...</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What kind of dweeb.... goes online to complain&quot;.

Ummm... everyone? It&#039;s practically in the constitution as our god-given right. Hell, it appears to be your job.

Are you really going to defend Mr. Murky? What kind of dumbass business owner actually validates that kind of criticism with a written response? If the customer is a dweeb, then the owner is a psychotic tool of the first order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"What kind of dweeb.... goes online to complain".</p>
<p>Ummm... everyone? It's practically in the constitution as our god-given right. Hell, it appears to be your job.</p>
<p>Are you really going to defend Mr. Murky? What kind of dumbass business owner actually validates that kind of criticism with a written response? If the customer is a dweeb, then the owner is a psychotic tool of the first order.</p>
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		<title>By: IMGoph</title>
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		<dc:creator>IMGoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, angela.  you&#039;re a few days late to this party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, angela.  you're a few days late to this party.</p>
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