It was a road (that few people used), it was destroyed almost every winter, now its closed, if you aren’t afraid of trees you would notice it’s a very nice place to walk. my advice is to get over it.

Klingle is a sunless, overgrown warren. I dare you to tell me that one, ONE, person has ever picniced or hucked a frisbee there.

If the people who want it closed were honest and told us they didn’t want traffic and/or us folks from East of the Park driving through their neighborhood, that would at least be honest. But don’t give us this BS about the thing being a naturalist’s dream.

As it is, keeping the bloody thing closed just clogs up the few routes to get from East to West and vice versa, so we better not hear any crap about all you Cleveland Parkers complaining about noise and traffic on Reno Road, Tilden, etc.

As to my antics as you call it, for someone who doesn’t have a dog in this fight, why are you fighting with me and giving us your opinion of what you think it’s all about?

I never argued saving 3 minutes–I never argued that bikes couldn’t use the road as well. That’s hardly the case.

I guess the question I have for you is, do you support the remediation of raw sewage and environmental hazards currently on the road? If your answer is YES, then you should have supported the original intent of the budget.

The budget was intended to give money to agencies to do their jobs–not to sneak in road closing legislation without due process.

Laurie

Do you think your antics encourage any support from those of us who do not have a dog in the fight?

Really, your arguments center on saving three minutes of commute time and some DC safety measures by avoiding other cross-town routes to the hospitals versus restoration of green space.

In an era of rising fuel prices, shouldn’t we be looking at ways of mitigating single occupancy vehicular traffic and encouraging alternative modes of transportation, such as walking and biking?

As to the majority, this is a PUBLIC ROAD, owned by everyone–not to only Ward 3 residents as you so narrowly imply, nor is it CM Cheh’s decision to decide for the rest of us, although while she can skirt the law, doesn’t mean she should.

Also, if you recall, when the public was allowed to testify before the DC Council, and there was a fair and democratic process followed, it was the majority who supported the opening–in people and in CM’s. See http://www.repairklingleroad.org/groupsupport.htm.

To what majority are you referring?

Clearly the council voted overwhelmingly against using the right of way as a vehicular road.

If I recall correctly, Cheh said she was in favor of closing the road when she ran for election to the council in 2006. She had some ongodly number of opponents in the primary and still won close to 50% of the vote. Surely if there was some majority in Ward 3 in favor of the road being opened, this would have been more of an issue.

Please, by all means, keep drumming up support for this and create a huge “majority”. Maybe that will allow live music to once again be prevalent in Mt. Pleasant.

The purpose of the money in the budget that some of you seem to be so proud of eliminating was to remediate the raw sewage and current environmental hazard in and around the road. Gee, thanks a lot.

It is easy for one to say, “there has been enough discussion over this.” Yes, there was discussion–in 2003—and we had a public hearing and the DC Council voted to repair the road on the merits of the case.

The problem of today is that there was NO DISCUSSION. CM Cheh decided for all of us that the road wasn’t necessary. CH Cheh decided that there shouldn’t even be a hearing last week. She didn’t want the formal notice to go out.

That may seem fair to some of you, especially those who feel a victory in today’s vote, but for the rest of us majority who worked really hard and used the laws of our city to win this case, it isn’t fair at all. In fact, it sucks and CM Cheh is pretty cowardly because if she was so sure of herself and the outcome, why didn’t she move to have a road closing hearing?

Huh?

Because if she did call a road closing hearing, then the public would have been allowed to speak. Then the ANC’s, civic groups, associations, fire, police, EMS and other health and public safety agencies could have chimed in to say we need to keep it a road.

But she wasn’t willing to take that risk. And just because the DC Council (Cheh) is allowed to bypass our laws & can close Klingle Road, doesn’t mean she should.

So, we now are at the legal issues which could be susbstantial. The Committee voted to recommend that DDOT use “any available Federal monies” for Klingle for the purpose of a hike/bike path. Question is, …are there any “available monies” for Klingle *and* even if there are funds, can we repurpose them this way?

LC

Stay tuned.

While I am not a tree-hugging “save the valley” type, I think there has been enough discussion over this.

Be done with it and move on.

the infrastructure on klingle is owned by nps. the retaining walls are historic and can’t be just moved. to build a bike path will cost at least another $2 million and take another 5 years. closed to cars, yes. but the debate about time and money will continue on.

I guess you’ve never seen Adrian Fenty hop into a telephone booth only to emerge in red cape and undergarments.

Klingle Road will re-open. I will re-open if super-mayor has to turn back time to make it happen, and the only thing that can stop him is a bald white guy with a funny-looking semi-precious metal from outer space…
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1. the number of vehicles which use porter st. on a daily basis is insane. it must be delt with soon or else another major east west artery will be jammed during rush hour (it sometimes already is)
2. The time we live in. We live in a time where people want to blow up our cities icons. people need to move around in the city in order to respond in a time of emergency. Not opening this road isnt gonna make anybody stop driving it will just make people drive further to go to the same destination.
3. the speed of emergency vehicles. someone above mentioned this issue. the state of healthcare in this city is abysmal. with klingle road open emergency vehicles would be able to move crosstown MUCH faster.

all in all this is total BS. I am a ward 3 resident and i am appalled at this decision. the decision to not open the road benefits maybe about 50 people where an open road benefits maybe 500 times that amount. Stupid people who live there just want their own private stub of a road so their kids can learn to drink tea while riding their tricycles.