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	<title>Comments on: Get Ready to Read Big</title>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/04/23/get-ready-to-read-big/comment-page-1/#comment-133813</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I see your point, and will reread. Yay big read!

I&#039;m not sure what to say about stereotypes - I would be inclined to say more a product of the times, although w Wolfsheim&#039;s character, supposedly based on a real person (this dude - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Rothstein) would it have been better if he&#039;d been cast as an Italian mobster?  Remember, too, that it&#039;s Gatsby&#039;s association with immmigrant criminals that keeps him from being accepted by the white upper class - so for the story to work, some amount of stereotyping - immigrant criminals - was going to be necessary to show Gatsby&#039;s &#039;otherness.&#039; 

As a &#039;passing&#039; novel pointing out the racism of the 20s, especially among America&#039;s &#039;old&#039; money - that there are some stereotypes - maybe a product of its era, maybe something Fitzgerald was intentionally using to make his point about white America v immigrants (in a time of increased isolationism in the US), mobility, etc. I&#039;ve read that Fitzgerald intentionally tried to make Gatsby&#039;s background unclear - though Gatz might be assumed to be Jewish, that there are lots of other possibilities.

Anyway, a rambling way to say I&#039;m not sure we can reliably read the stereotypes as Fitzgerald being a racist in a novel that&#039;s talking about race in the 20s and racism and classicism in America&#039;s elite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I see your point, and will reread. Yay big read!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what to say about stereotypes &#8211; I would be inclined to say more a product of the times, although w Wolfsheim&#8217;s character, supposedly based on a real person (this dude &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Rothstein)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Rothstein)</a> would it have been better if he&#8217;d been cast as an Italian mobster?  Remember, too, that it&#8217;s Gatsby&#8217;s association with immmigrant criminals that keeps him from being accepted by the white upper class &#8211; so for the story to work, some amount of stereotyping &#8211; immigrant criminals &#8211; was going to be necessary to show Gatsby&#8217;s &#8216;otherness.&#8217; </p>
<p>As a &#8216;passing&#8217; novel pointing out the racism of the 20s, especially among America&#8217;s &#8216;old&#8217; money &#8211; that there are some stereotypes &#8211; maybe a product of its era, maybe something Fitzgerald was intentionally using to make his point about white America v immigrants (in a time of increased isolationism in the US), mobility, etc. I&#8217;ve read that Fitzgerald intentionally tried to make Gatsby&#8217;s background unclear &#8211; though Gatz might be assumed to be Jewish, that there are lots of other possibilities.</p>
<p>Anyway, a rambling way to say I&#8217;m not sure we can reliably read the stereotypes as Fitzgerald being a racist in a novel that&#8217;s talking about race in the 20s and racism and classicism in America&#8217;s elite.</p>
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		<title>By: CPO</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Owen, you&#039;re not wrong. That is what the book is about. But it is also populated by secondary characters--some Jewish, some African American, described in what we would recognize today as defamatory or racist terms. Big nosed greedy Jews. Wild eyed &quot;bucks.&quot; I&#039;m not saying it is not an American classic, but it is also a product of its era which was undoubtedly rife with racism and antisemitism. I was just saying that for a city with a black majority, that prides itself on its diversity, Fitzgerald&#039;s casual racism is going to stick in many a craw.  

But heck, I&#039;ll (re)read it and have the conversation--which I guess is the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owen, you&#8217;re not wrong. That is what the book is about. But it is also populated by secondary characters&#8211;some Jewish, some African American, described in what we would recognize today as defamatory or racist terms. Big nosed greedy Jews. Wild eyed &#8220;bucks.&#8221; I&#8217;m not saying it is not an American classic, but it is also a product of its era which was undoubtedly rife with racism and antisemitism. I was just saying that for a city with a black majority, that prides itself on its diversity, Fitzgerald&#8217;s casual racism is going to stick in many a craw.  </p>
<p>But heck, I&#8217;ll (re)read it and have the conversation&#8211;which I guess is the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CPO - care to elaborate? Gatsby&#039;s got some racist characters in it (although I&#039;d say they&#039;re not portrayed in a positive light), but the book&#039;s largely about the inability of Gatsby    to &#039;pass&#039; in a rich, white world - that even by the 20s the &#039;american dream&#039; in terms of social mobility was a myth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CPO &#8211; care to elaborate? Gatsby&#8217;s got some racist characters in it (although I&#8217;d say they&#8217;re not portrayed in a positive light), but the book&#8217;s largely about the inability of Gatsby    to &#8216;pass&#8217; in a rich, white world &#8211; that even by the 20s the &#8216;american dream&#8217; in terms of social mobility was a myth</p>
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		<title>By: CPO</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/04/23/get-ready-to-read-big/comment-page-1/#comment-133685</link>
		<dc:creator>CPO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it was chosen because of his reliable use of ethnic and racial stereotypes. Perfect for DC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it was chosen because of his reliable use of ethnic and racial stereotypes. Perfect for DC!</p>
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		<title>By: PT</title>
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		<dc:creator>PT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps because Fitzgerald rests eternally in Rockville, Md.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps because Fitzgerald rests eternally in Rockville, Md.</p>
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