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		<title>By: &#xEB;&#xE0;&#xEC;&#xE8;&#xED;&#xE0;&#xF2;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>0rThank's.7h I compleatly agree with last post.  zeq 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>0rThank&#8217;s.7h I compleatly agree with last post.  zeq<br />
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		<title>By: &#xC8;&#xE3;&#xEE;&#xF0;&#xFC;</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/03/13/capitol-hills-murky-history/#comment-214237</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/03/13/capitol-hills-murky-history/#comment-128824</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Every weekend my family went to Murky. Many of the people we made friends with there&#8211;including the baristas, we don&#8217;t even know their names. But we spent hours together and rain or shine, I knew someone would be there that knew me and would say hello. And now they&#8217;ve disappeared."

How do you make friends with someone, yet not know their name?  Step away from MySpace, douchnozzle and learn about human relationships.

And Nick Cho can suck it.  He stole from customers by pocketing that money and not paying his taxes.  Ten bucks says the asswipe behind "Rays the Steaks" and "Rays the Classics" is next.  That guy is also incredibly dishonorable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Every weekend my family went to Murky. Many of the people we made friends with there&#8211;including the baristas, we don&#8217;t even know their names. But we spent hours together and rain or shine, I knew someone would be there that knew me and would say hello. And now they&#8217;ve disappeared.&#8221;</p>
<p>How do you make friends with someone, yet not know their name?  Step away from MySpace, douchnozzle and learn about human relationships.</p>
<p>And Nick Cho can suck it.  He stole from customers by pocketing that money and not paying his taxes.  Ten bucks says the asswipe behind &#8220;Rays the Steaks&#8221; and &#8220;Rays the Classics&#8221; is next.  That guy is also incredibly dishonorable.</p>
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		<title>By: SAM</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/03/13/capitol-hills-murky-history/#comment-118410</link>
		<dc:creator>SAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be a little too late on this post...but I am also a former murky employee. Nick had a bad attitude and treated his employees badly. We got paychecks up to a month late constantly. I quit months ago and I am still owed back paychecks. It doesnt surprise me at all that this has happened, and considering the fact that I know FOR A FACT that Nick charged double what he needed to for  coffee I can tell you right now this is only a result of greed. His wife left him recently for that reason entirely. Other great shops are opening, one right on cap hill. So good riddance to bad rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be a little too late on this post&#8230;but I am also a former murky employee. Nick had a bad attitude and treated his employees badly. We got paychecks up to a month late constantly. I quit months ago and I am still owed back paychecks. It doesnt surprise me at all that this has happened, and considering the fact that I know FOR A FACT that Nick charged double what he needed to for  coffee I can tell you right now this is only a result of greed. His wife left him recently for that reason entirely. Other great shops are opening, one right on cap hill. So good riddance to bad rubbish.</p>
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		<title>By: Monika Olsson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monika Olsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A former Swedish student, me, visited Murky Coffee a lot during spring 2006 and what  place Murky is! It was a great place of meeting great people, the athmosphere was open, fresh and familiar. When I left DC and took the flight back to Sweden I had dicided once I come back to DC I will bring my friends (both European and National) over at Murky&#xB4;s for a nice hot cup of Java. I really look forward to see you all at Murky&#xB4;s in near future. 

If not.. all of you are welcome to a unique environment in Northern Sweden.... white white white is the snow! and it covers the ground and more... it reaches up to a grown mans shoulders! Yes, that is trough!

Best best wishes!
Monika from the city of Arvidsjaur, Sweden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A former Swedish student, me, visited Murky Coffee a lot during spring 2006 and what  place Murky is! It was a great place of meeting great people, the athmosphere was open, fresh and familiar. When I left DC and took the flight back to Sweden I had dicided once I come back to DC I will bring my friends (both European and National) over at Murky&#xB4;s for a nice hot cup of Java. I really look forward to see you all at Murky&#xB4;s in near future. </p>
<p>If not.. all of you are welcome to a unique environment in Northern Sweden&#8230;. white white white is the snow! and it covers the ground and more&#8230; it reaches up to a grown mans shoulders! Yes, that is trough!</p>
<p>Best best wishes!<br />
Monika from the city of Arvidsjaur, Sweden.</p>
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		<title>By: Friends4eva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friends4eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you call the baristas "friends" and not know their name?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you call the baristas &#8220;friends&#8221; and not know their name?</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/03/13/capitol-hills-murky-history/#comment-110168</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Nick has been using the same line for the last 9 months...funny how the statement looks hollow when it's repeated when the city finally gets around to shutting you down, 9 months after their intent was published.

http://www.examiner.com/a-722193~Restaurants_owe_big_for_back_taxes.html

cf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Nick has been using the same line for the last 9 months&#8230;funny how the statement looks hollow when it&#8217;s repeated when the city finally gets around to shutting you down, 9 months after their intent was published.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.examiner.com/a-722193~Restaurants_owe_big_for_back_taxes.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.examiner.com/a-722193~Restaurants_owe_big_for_back_taxes.html</a></p>
<p>cf</p>
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		<title>By: Marva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Murky did well:
coffee
community

Every weekend my family went to Murky. Many of the people we made friends with there--including the baristas, we don't even know their names. But we spent hours together and rain or shine, I knew someone would be there that knew me and would say hello. And now they've disappeared.

This is a loss to Capitol Hill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Murky did well:<br />
coffee<br />
community</p>
<p>Every weekend my family went to Murky. Many of the people we made friends with there&#8211;including the baristas, we don&#8217;t even know their names. But we spent hours together and rain or shine, I knew someone would be there that knew me and would say hello. And now they&#8217;ve disappeared.</p>
<p>This is a loss to Capitol Hill.</p>
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		<title>By: Dissapointed</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/03/13/capitol-hills-murky-history/#comment-106998</link>
		<dc:creator>Dissapointed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>asinine*</description>
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		<title>By: Dissapointed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dissapointed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To H Street Revitalizer:

b/c H. feels unsafe to me does not make me racist. Try rephrasing your asenine comment, for the good of the community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To H Street Revitalizer:</p>
<p>b/c H. feels unsafe to me does not make me racist. Try rephrasing your asenine comment, for the good of the community.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkyMark</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkyMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, IMO what he specifically did with the funds doesn't really matter.  Given that it's funds held in trust to be paid in taxes, it's theft no matter how you slice it.  He could have used it for paying rent, fixing a leaky roof, payroll, etc.  As soon as he knowingly used those funds for anything other than the taxes for which they were entrusted, he stole taxpayer money.   It's like your landlord spending your security deposit and not having it available when you move out. How pissed would you be?!

I say good riddance.  Yes, the city's tax office is flawed, but this does not excuse Murky's blatant misapropriation of funds.  I hope the DC government can get OUR money back WITH INTEREST, PENALTIES, and FEES to apply toward the maintenance and betterment of our city. Anything short of this would be unfair to the taxpayers and to all of the other businesses that are operating in compliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, IMO what he specifically did with the funds doesn&#8217;t really matter.  Given that it&#8217;s funds held in trust to be paid in taxes, it&#8217;s theft no matter how you slice it.  He could have used it for paying rent, fixing a leaky roof, payroll, etc.  As soon as he knowingly used those funds for anything other than the taxes for which they were entrusted, he stole taxpayer money.   It&#8217;s like your landlord spending your security deposit and not having it available when you move out. How pissed would you be?!</p>
<p>I say good riddance.  Yes, the city&#8217;s tax office is flawed, but this does not excuse Murky&#8217;s blatant misapropriation of funds.  I hope the DC government can get OUR money back WITH INTEREST, PENALTIES, and FEES to apply toward the maintenance and betterment of our city. Anything short of this would be unfair to the taxpayers and to all of the other businesses that are operating in compliance.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the issue of credit/debit cards, please don't make or accept naive argument about the cut credit card companies are taking. If Mr. Cho was worried about losing money to the credit card companies, it seems he was so only because he wished to pocket it for himself.

The real issue is that the good owner of Murky clearly seems to not have enough transaction records which could prove or even disprove that he was essentially stealing from his customers. 

Throughout all of this, not a single individual has been able to fully explain where the money went. If back taxes are owed, wouldn't the owner simply sit down with the government and work out a payment plan? Where is the money?

From all indications, Mr. Cho has pocketed the full price of the base sale, plus all the sales tax and stiffed the government. It simply does not matter that Mr. Cho is considered a "nice" guy by some former employees and customers. The best con men/women usually are smiling all the way to the bank.

While there is no actual proof, yet, that Mr. Cho actually stole the money, the evidence indicates that something fraudulent may have occurred. Regardless of what has transpired, Murky in DC is finished as a business. 

Oh, and I want my money back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the issue of credit/debit cards, please don&#8217;t make or accept naive argument about the cut credit card companies are taking. If Mr. Cho was worried about losing money to the credit card companies, it seems he was so only because he wished to pocket it for himself.</p>
<p>The real issue is that the good owner of Murky clearly seems to not have enough transaction records which could prove or even disprove that he was essentially stealing from his customers. </p>
<p>Throughout all of this, not a single individual has been able to fully explain where the money went. If back taxes are owed, wouldn&#8217;t the owner simply sit down with the government and work out a payment plan? Where is the money?</p>
<p>From all indications, Mr. Cho has pocketed the full price of the base sale, plus all the sales tax and stiffed the government. It simply does not matter that Mr. Cho is considered a &#8220;nice&#8221; guy by some former employees and customers. The best con men/women usually are smiling all the way to the bank.</p>
<p>While there is no actual proof, yet, that Mr. Cho actually stole the money, the evidence indicates that something fraudulent may have occurred. Regardless of what has transpired, Murky in DC is finished as a business. </p>
<p>Oh, and I want my money back.</p>
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		<title>By: H Street Revitalizer</title>
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		<dc:creator>H Street Revitalizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phase 1 is under process: Moving in Not Quite So Black residents, such as your former mayor Anthony Williams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phase 1 is under process: Moving in Not Quite So Black residents, such as your former mayor Anthony Williams.</p>
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		<title>By: H Street Revitalizer</title>
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		<dc:creator>H Street Revitalizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To dissapointed and others:

People people. We are drawing up new proposals to deal with the 'black issue' on H street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To dissapointed and others:</p>
<p>People people. We are drawing up new proposals to deal with the &#8216;black issue&#8217; on H street.</p>
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		<title>By: Dissapointed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dissapointed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Creative Meatloaf:

I already do the French Press thing.  What I like about indie cafes is the atmosphere and the occasional mocha/chai/wet cappuccino.  

And to those suggesting H street shops.  To put it plainly.  H Street is scary-- still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Creative Meatloaf:</p>
<p>I already do the French Press thing.  What I like about indie cafes is the atmosphere and the occasional mocha/chai/wet cappuccino.  </p>
<p>And to those suggesting H street shops.  To put it plainly.  H Street is scary&#8211; still.</p>
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