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	<title>Comments on: No! Nader Is Back!</title>
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		<title>By: Clergue Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/01/31/no-nader-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-105248</link>
		<dc:creator>Clergue Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully support single payer health insurance. But the way for Congress to pass it is NOT to split the Democrats again. As you did in the distant past, Mr. Nader....and the way Obama is doing it now...is to use your power to build up the pressure from the base (i.e. the voters) to put pressure on Congress and the new President to promote it. If elected, Obama is likely to respond favorably. No President, neither you nor Clinton nor Obama can make major changes on major issues without upward pressure on Congress from the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully support single payer health insurance. But the way for Congress to pass it is NOT to split the Democrats again. As you did in the distant past, Mr. Nader....and the way Obama is doing it now...is to use your power to build up the pressure from the base (i.e. the voters) to put pressure on Congress and the new President to promote it. If elected, Obama is likely to respond favorably. No President, neither you nor Clinton nor Obama can make major changes on major issues without upward pressure on Congress from the people.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Obama and Hillary have health care plans that prove that they are capable of compromising with people who don&#039;t want government run health care. Their plans prove that they are capable of taking intermediate steps towards a goal rather than just vilifying those who aren&#039;t on board with an all-or-nothing radical change approach.  These characteristics are exactly what qualifies them both to be the leader of a democratic country and the lack of these characteristics is what makes Ralph Nader a joke.  I don&#039;t blame him for running in 2000.  It was the best chance he had to getting a 3rd party above the popular vote threshold to start qualifying for matching funds.  But he missed.  Since then, his presidential candidacy has been all about an old man&#039;s vain quest to remain relevant.  I pity the sick old bastard, but I wouldn&#039;t vote for him if you put a gun to my head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Obama and Hillary have health care plans that prove that they are capable of compromising with people who don't want government run health care. Their plans prove that they are capable of taking intermediate steps towards a goal rather than just vilifying those who aren't on board with an all-or-nothing radical change approach.  These characteristics are exactly what qualifies them both to be the leader of a democratic country and the lack of these characteristics is what makes Ralph Nader a joke.  I don't blame him for running in 2000.  It was the best chance he had to getting a 3rd party above the popular vote threshold to start qualifying for matching funds.  But he missed.  Since then, his presidential candidacy has been all about an old man's vain quest to remain relevant.  I pity the sick old bastard, but I wouldn't vote for him if you put a gun to my head.</p>
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		<title>By: Downtown Rez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Downtown Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least Nader gives the most delusional someone to obsess on, so the rest of us don&#039;t have to waste our time on them.

So, yeah, let him run for whatever the heck he wants.  After all, the 2000 election was a fluke, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least Nader gives the most delusional someone to obsess on, so the rest of us don't have to waste our time on them.</p>
<p>So, yeah, let him run for whatever the heck he wants.  After all, the 2000 election was a fluke, right?</p>
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		<title>By: sara.h</title>
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		<dc:creator>sara.h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niagara:

I&#039;ve seen Sicko.  Immediately after seeing it (on opening night), I came home to find a bill in my mailbox from a lab that had run tests and, without notice to me, was no longer an approved provider under my health insurance. I was infuriated, and read all of the candidates plans for health care.  

As a person with a chronic medical condition, I think single-payer is the ultimate goal.  But I also believe that you have to work within the system to make changes toward that ultimate goal.  It is, as Mr. T suggests, being practical instead of being idealistic.  I don&#039;t consider myself a &quot;sellout&quot; or a &quot;hypocrite&quot; for supporting a candidate or a party that seeks to bring us &lt;b&gt;closer&lt;/b&gt; to the goal.  To the contrary, I think that my support gets us closer than yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niagara:</p>
<p>I've seen Sicko.  Immediately after seeing it (on opening night), I came home to find a bill in my mailbox from a lab that had run tests and, without notice to me, was no longer an approved provider under my health insurance. I was infuriated, and read all of the candidates plans for health care.  </p>
<p>As a person with a chronic medical condition, I think single-payer is the ultimate goal.  But I also believe that you have to work within the system to make changes toward that ultimate goal.  It is, as Mr. T suggests, being practical instead of being idealistic.  I don't consider myself a "sellout" or a "hypocrite" for supporting a candidate or a party that seeks to bring us <b>closer</b> to the goal.  To the contrary, I think that my support gets us closer than yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So the man makes investments. And he gives away most of his money to public interest causes. Where would you have him put it, in his mattress?&quot;

So, the I voted democrat. And I believe in a better system, and work towards that goal. What would you have me do instead, vote for a candidate I know can&#039;t win?

Corporate America is here and now. It exists. Of course it would be stupid for Nader to keep his money in a mattress rather than investing it. That would be throwing money away. Kind of like throwing a vote away, isn&#039;t it? Sorry Niagara. It&#039;s hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"So the man makes investments. And he gives away most of his money to public interest causes. Where would you have him put it, in his mattress?"</p>
<p>So, the I voted democrat. And I believe in a better system, and work towards that goal. What would you have me do instead, vote for a candidate I know can't win?</p>
<p>Corporate America is here and now. It exists. Of course it would be stupid for Nader to keep his money in a mattress rather than investing it. That would be throwing money away. Kind of like throwing a vote away, isn't it? Sorry Niagara. It's hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Niagara</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/01/31/no-nader-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-97459</link>
		<dc:creator>Niagara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 04:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sara.h:

Kucinich was for single payer. Now he&#039;s gone.

If Nader doesn&#039;t run, no one will be for single payer.

Hillarycare and Obamacare are the same -- they keep the insurance companies in the game. The insurance companies can&#039;t be in the game, because they are the problem.

We need single payer because it&#039;s the only way to cut the fat out the system. See Michael Moore&#039;s movie Sicko.

Voting for the least worst makes things worse.

Do I think Hillary would be better than Romney or McCain?  No. On health care, the same. On militarism, she might prove worse, because she has to prove she has a masculine side.

They all are corporate militarists. Obama too. He wants to increase the size of the military.

So, time to start anew. 1,000 activists in every Congressional district is what Nader is proposing. See naderexplore08.org.

Keep an open mind.

Niagara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara.h:</p>
<p>Kucinich was for single payer. Now he's gone.</p>
<p>If Nader doesn't run, no one will be for single payer.</p>
<p>Hillarycare and Obamacare are the same -- they keep the insurance companies in the game. The insurance companies can't be in the game, because they are the problem.</p>
<p>We need single payer because it's the only way to cut the fat out the system. See Michael Moore's movie Sicko.</p>
<p>Voting for the least worst makes things worse.</p>
<p>Do I think Hillary would be better than Romney or McCain?  No. On health care, the same. On militarism, she might prove worse, because she has to prove she has a masculine side.</p>
<p>They all are corporate militarists. Obama too. He wants to increase the size of the military.</p>
<p>So, time to start anew. 1,000 activists in every Congressional district is what Nader is proposing. See naderexplore08.org.</p>
<p>Keep an open mind.</p>
<p>Niagara</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. T in DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. T in DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 03:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, there&#039;s a time when practicality trumps idealism. It&#039;s one thing to throw away a vote when you&#039;re in college, and the election isn&#039;t a very important one. Go ahead, vote Green, or Socialist Workers, or for Nader. But ever since the 2000 election, that&#039;s all in the past. Every vote counts, and sometimes you have to suck it up and vote for the (much) lesser of two evils. 
And wouldn&#039;t it be exciting to see the first woman or African-American President inaugurated, even if they aren&#039;t perfect by Nader-esque standards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, there's a time when practicality trumps idealism. It's one thing to throw away a vote when you're in college, and the election isn't a very important one. Go ahead, vote Green, or Socialist Workers, or for Nader. But ever since the 2000 election, that's all in the past. Every vote counts, and sometimes you have to suck it up and vote for the (much) lesser of two evils.<br />
And wouldn't it be exciting to see the first woman or African-American President inaugurated, even if they aren't perfect by Nader-esque standards?</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle Vyas</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2008/01/31/no-nader-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-97359</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle Vyas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph Nader&#8217;s legacy encompasses the spectrum of his life long work, especially his presidential candidacies. He has started a presidential exploratory committee www.naderexplore08.com

My political and civic identity was born through exposure to the candidate for whom I caucused for in Nevada, Congressman Dennis Kucinich.

Not only was I going on a limb, scrambling to educate myself on his record, bio, the issues, his campaign style not to mention volunteering for a political campaign, calling radio shows, canvassing, going to a town conference, and attending a free speech rally where I was interviewed for a published newspaper article.

Wooo!

A lot to absorb and digest to say the least.

Part of this process was owning my power as a citizen.

I, after 31 years, affirm:

    * Politicians are public servants. They are elected to serve the public. We are the public. We are their Boss.

    * When does a Boss grovel at the feet of their employee?

    * A vote cast is duty. The highest level of civic participation in this democratic republic. The highest level of critical thinking is a mandatory prerequisite.

    * The media&#8217;s power lies within the scope of communicative channels of distribution. The more channels accessed produces the variety of information and opinion necessary to serve as background information. Independent research is equally necessary.

Our future, the future of my three boys, everyone, everywhere is deeply affected by civic, social administration and control; in simpler terms, politics and government.

If we are to honor our existence and our time on Earth than we must participate.

Fight off all urges or coercion to be satisfied with the role of spectator.

A long comment, I know.

I strongly support Ralph Nader as an activist, and as a President candidate.
The Democratic Party uses the Nader Myth to cover up the fact that Al Gore abandoned his supporters and all voters in Florida. 

Diebold delivered on it&#039;s promise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph Nader&#8217;s legacy encompasses the spectrum of his life long work, especially his presidential candidacies. He has started a presidential exploratory committee <a href="http://www.naderexplore08.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.naderexplore08.com</a></p>
<p>My political and civic identity was born through exposure to the candidate for whom I caucused for in Nevada, Congressman Dennis Kucinich.</p>
<p>Not only was I going on a limb, scrambling to educate myself on his record, bio, the issues, his campaign style not to mention volunteering for a political campaign, calling radio shows, canvassing, going to a town conference, and attending a free speech rally where I was interviewed for a published newspaper article.</p>
<p>Wooo!</p>
<p>A lot to absorb and digest to say the least.</p>
<p>Part of this process was owning my power as a citizen.</p>
<p>I, after 31 years, affirm:</p>
<p>    * Politicians are public servants. They are elected to serve the public. We are the public. We are their Boss.</p>
<p>    * When does a Boss grovel at the feet of their employee?</p>
<p>    * A vote cast is duty. The highest level of civic participation in this democratic republic. The highest level of critical thinking is a mandatory prerequisite.</p>
<p>    * The media&#8217;s power lies within the scope of communicative channels of distribution. The more channels accessed produces the variety of information and opinion necessary to serve as background information. Independent research is equally necessary.</p>
<p>Our future, the future of my three boys, everyone, everywhere is deeply affected by civic, social administration and control; in simpler terms, politics and government.</p>
<p>If we are to honor our existence and our time on Earth than we must participate.</p>
<p>Fight off all urges or coercion to be satisfied with the role of spectator.</p>
<p>A long comment, I know.</p>
<p>I strongly support Ralph Nader as an activist, and as a President candidate.<br />
The Democratic Party uses the Nader Myth to cover up the fact that Al Gore abandoned his supporters and all voters in Florida. </p>
<p>Diebold delivered on it's promise.</p>
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		<title>By: sara.h</title>
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		<dc:creator>sara.h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niagara-

wasn&#039;t Dennis Kucinich for single-payer?  

I think he was, and was on the stage for a long time.

how does it benefit anyone if the result of having a third-party candidate is that we wind up with someone who refers to universal healthcare as &quot;socialized medicine?&quot; in the White House?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niagara-</p>
<p>wasn't Dennis Kucinich for single-payer?  </p>
<p>I think he was, and was on the stage for a long time.</p>
<p>how does it benefit anyone if the result of having a third-party candidate is that we wind up with someone who refers to universal healthcare as "socialized medicine?" in the White House?</p>
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		<title>By: Niagara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niagara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason:

How is Obama corrupt?

Check out Obama&#039;s contributions from nuclear power group Exelon. Then check out his position on nuclear power.

Obama said at one time he was for single payer, now he&#039;s opposed. He flipped because of the power the health insurance and pharma lobbies.

Nader, if he becomes a candidate, will be the only one on the stage for single payer. Will he bring us single payer? Only if people who believe in single payer stand up to the Obamas and Clintons of this world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason:</p>
<p>How is Obama corrupt?</p>
<p>Check out Obama's contributions from nuclear power group Exelon. Then check out his position on nuclear power.</p>
<p>Obama said at one time he was for single payer, now he's opposed. He flipped because of the power the health insurance and pharma lobbies.</p>
<p>Nader, if he becomes a candidate, will be the only one on the stage for single payer. Will he bring us single payer? Only if people who believe in single payer stand up to the Obamas and Clintons of this world.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2000 election
Bush: 50,460,110
Gore: 51,003,926

Nader is for abolishing the electoral college. 

Re: Jason Cherkis... Check the $&#039;s on who the pharmaceutical and medical lobbyists support. 

The Democratic party will fight to keep candidates especially Ralph off of the ballot. This is corruption, and is why Nader must run. We need fair access, not some money game that battles it out in courts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2000 election<br />
Bush: 50,460,110<br />
Gore: 51,003,926</p>
<p>Nader is for abolishing the electoral college. </p>
<p>Re: Jason Cherkis... Check the $'s on who the pharmaceutical and medical lobbyists support. </p>
<p>The Democratic party will fight to keep candidates especially Ralph off of the ballot. This is corruption, and is why Nader must run. We need fair access, not some money game that battles it out in courts.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Licht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Licht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note to DNC Officials: for a modest fee I can introduce you to an array of exorcists from many traditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note to DNC Officials: for a modest fee I can introduce you to an array of exorcists from many traditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Cherkis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Cherkis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is Obama corrupt? Do you really think Nader will bring about universal healthcare?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is Obama corrupt? Do you really think Nader will bring about universal healthcare?</p>
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		<title>By: tinheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>tinheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great.  Ralph Nader makes all the wrong sort of people angry.  Of course, my money&#039;s still on The Kid from Springfield, Ralph Wiggum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great.  Ralph Nader makes all the wrong sort of people angry.  Of course, my money's still on The Kid from Springfield, Ralph Wiggum.</p>
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		<title>By: Mame McQueen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mame McQueen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>https://rnexplore08.updatelog.com is Nader&#039;s website

Nader&#039;s campaign filmmaker, Jurgen Vsych, has just released her new book about the 2004 campaign, &quot;What Was Ralph Nader Thinking?&quot;  http://thewomandirector.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://rnexplore08.updatelog.com" rel="nofollow">https://rnexplore08.updatelog.com</a> is Nader's website</p>
<p>Nader's campaign filmmaker, Jurgen Vsych, has just released her new book about the 2004 campaign, "What Was Ralph Nader Thinking?"  <a href="http://thewomandirector.com" rel="nofollow">http://thewomandirector.com</a></p>
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