Lance had 6.7 watts per kilo for 35 minutes, and likely 6.5 watts per kilo for 1-hour. He needs about 6.0 liters/min of sustained oxygen consumption to do this!! That takes a VO2 max of about 7.5 liters/min. 7,500 ml of oxygen at a weight of 74kg is about 101 VO2 max.

A 101 VO2 max is ONLY possible with chemo boosters, Interlukins and peptoid hormones, certainly not without modern day assistance. AND.... They HAVE to be a super-responder to drug-therepy. You dont get from an 78 completely un-doped VO2 potential to a 101 without being a super-responder to the drugs. Use some resoning folks.

Lance's highest ever un-doped, VO2 max test in sep. 1999 was 81.7 at a weight of 79 kilos. That in FACT was the highest he ever got. Now... You have heart stroke volume, but Lance's heart is normal sized... If one is to look at the medical records they show his heart is high normal... So discounting the whole larger than life heart, he needs some serious assistance to do 1/20th of what he's done.... ANYONE human ON EARTH needs so serous F- assistance to do a 101 VO2 max and 500 watts for 1-hour....

Totally un-doped, using the highest ever VO2 max... He'd do about 75 place, and he'd struggle to recover and maybe get dropped and DNF.

LeMond degenerated to not being able to get through six stages in 1994 when Chechini, Ferrari, and the other doctors started up their hGh, testosterone, EPO, PFC; pez dispencer.... and he had an un-doped VO2 max of over 90 even in old age he still does.... I dont think LeMond blood-doped because sh$t, I could get up to that w/kg if I was jacked.... And I'm just some hack....

If LeMond jacked he'd of had higher than 95 and we would have record or physical proof of it.

And Tim, could you please explain how a clean rider could beat the best riders on the world while on the best performance enhancing drugs available at the time (Ullrich, Pantani, etc.)?

This is physiologically impossible.

Also, why can't Dr. Coyle produce any of the data that he allegedly collected for his study of Lance's allegedly unique physiology wherein he stated that Lance's performance improvement could be attributed to an increase in efficiency (a claim that seems prima fascia utterly false--if it were possible to increase performance by 3% through improving efficiency, it would stand to reason that other pro cyclists might pursue this as a training methodology since it's VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE for an elite athlete in his prime to squeeze those kinds of gains out of changing the biomechanics of a repetitive motion he's trained for decades. Talk to any top physiologist or even the trainer for the local community college table tennis team--just ain't gonna happen).

Well Tim, since you elected to jump into the fray (undoubtedly on the demand of your employer--and we should believe you, yet another person riding Lance's coattails and being paid to defend his public image as a neutral trustworthy expert on this because. . .why? You've really pulled a page from the McCain/Phil Gramm messaging playbook here.)

Anyway, you elected to join this conversation, clearly to make an ad hominem attack on A MIDWESTERN HOUSEWIFE WHO HAS NOTHING TO GAIN FROM STATING HER EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE, and then you run away.

That's how 4-year-old girls fight, Tom.

Can't you, and Lance, do just a little bit better than that?

It's getting harder and harder for you to contain what many people in the cycling world have already concluded: there's no way in h e double hockey sticks that Lance won seven Tours straight clean.

David Millar, who was banned from pro cycling for two years for doping, was never caught using epo. He admitted to it only after the cops raided his house. So why should anyone even give Lance's assertions that he never failed a drug test (again, utterly false, see David Walsh's book for the details) any consideration as proof he didn't dope?

His results speak for themselves. He beat the best riders in the world at the time WHILE THEY WERE DOPED OUT OF THEIR GOURDS. Not possible!

Oh, and everyone who is out waving the anticancer flag, yeah, cancer sucks, but how does it jive with Lance's anticancer crusade when he dates two Hollywood starlets back to back who are both smokers? Is that part of Living Strong?

L'eggo your ego, brah, and go spank some skins with McConaughey

I just finished From Lance to Landis. In the author's note Walsh mentions about 100 people. In addition to Walsh and Betsy Andreu, you have a lot of liars to sue. You probably should be getting to work on the lawsuit. Btw, my training is stalled and I'd like to know if you could ask Lance about the timing and dosage for r EPO and if he has recommendations for any other helpful medical products. No bovine hemoglobin, but I think he has some experience with Actovegin.(sp?)

By the way, me and Dirk are working on a new series of films and if Lance is ever in the SFV tell him to stop by the set and maybe we can have him do a couple of scenes. We usually take a couple of shots to help with endurance. Sorry to disappoint but porn is fake too.. At any rate if he's in the valley we could hook him up with hookers and blow...

Sincerely,

Reid Rothchild

Floyd told Martin Dugard last June 07 that Lance Doped.

My buddy Austin Murphy told me weeks ago about the pre-Tour piece he was working on, but swore me to secrecy until it came out. Ah, but now we can talk. A great piece on doping at the Tour, pointing a lot of fingers at Lance Armstrong, in particular. Two very accomplished cyclists who have ridden extensively with Lance have told me that he doped.

Tim Herman, I hope you sleep well. Enjoy the money now sucking Lance's a$$ because eternity is a long time for the place you're going...

Anybody speak Spanish?
Follow link for LA's secret ingredient.

http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?p=1471797#poststop

your cycling knowledge is obviously as limited as your tiny pea-sized brain.Why dont you go over to the DP and fantasize about Floyd.

RG

I am going to stop urinating on this discussion as now, this is a personal insultathon that has nothing to do with the topic. However, I would love to keep making you look ridiculous if you are game. I have nothing but time and IQ to spend..

hahaha deluded AND tirseome
lmfao

tiresome

RG

And there are thousands of people who have opinions based on nothing but their opinion...you know...like you. I also hear that we each have an....well, just look in the mirror and come up with the euphemism for your reflection.

That is beside the point, and not germane to this topic.

Yea, you have 9+ years on me, but I am sensing that your kung-fu powers are not as strong as mine. Really, I suggest that you just stop...really......stop.