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	<title>Comments on: The &#8220;Duke Ellington Orchestra&#8221;?</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Washington City Paper: Black Plastic Bag - DEJF: NEA Jazz Masters Concert</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/blackplasticbag/2008/03/12/the-duke-ellington-orchestra/#comment-12903</link>
		<dc:creator>Washington City Paper: Black Plastic Bag - DEJF: NEA Jazz Masters Concert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in March I wrote a post about The Duke Ellington Orchestra when they were beginning a stand at Blues Alley. I pointed out [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael J. West</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/blackplasticbag/2008/03/12/the-duke-ellington-orchestra/#comment-3180</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael J. West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm taking the liberty of guessing your next question, Kevin.

I have nothing against the actual quality of the music that the so-called Duke Ellington Orchestra is playing. Nothing. But seriously...what we're talking about is basically an hour at Blues Alley--which doesn't let you stay for the second set without paying double--for FIFTY bucks. There's an expectation when people pay that much for a show: not just high-quality music, but high-quality music played by famous musicians. 

In this case, the band has the &lt;i&gt;name&lt;/i&gt; of the famous musician, without the actual &lt;i&gt;presence&lt;/i&gt; of the famous musician; it doesn't even have the less famous musicians who were nonetheless famously associated with that famous musician. At best, it has a man who was in the band for a brief heartbeat of Ellington's career.

Put it this way: if Herbie Williams (Charlie Parker's last trumpeter) had put together a quintet of unknowns with himself as the leader, billed it as the "Charlie Parker Quintet," and charged $37.75, plus surcharge, plus $10 minimum...wouldn't you think that was a bit exorbitant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m taking the liberty of guessing your next question, Kevin.</p>
<p>I have nothing against the actual quality of the music that the so-called Duke Ellington Orchestra is playing. Nothing. But seriously&#8230;what we&#8217;re talking about is basically an hour at Blues Alley&#8211;which doesn&#8217;t let you stay for the second set without paying double&#8211;for FIFTY bucks. There&#8217;s an expectation when people pay that much for a show: not just high-quality music, but high-quality music played by famous musicians. </p>
<p>In this case, the band has the <i>name</i> of the famous musician, without the actual <i>presence</i> of the famous musician; it doesn&#8217;t even have the less famous musicians who were nonetheless famously associated with that famous musician. At best, it has a man who was in the band for a brief heartbeat of Ellington&#8217;s career.</p>
<p>Put it this way: if Herbie Williams (Charlie Parker&#8217;s last trumpeter) had put together a quintet of unknowns with himself as the leader, billed it as the &#8220;Charlie Parker Quintet,&#8221; and charged $37.75, plus surcharge, plus $10 minimum&#8230;wouldn&#8217;t you think that was a bit exorbitant?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. West</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/blackplasticbag/2008/03/12/the-duke-ellington-orchestra/#comment-3179</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael J. West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard what was on the mySpace page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard what was on the mySpace page.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So....it's safe to assume you didn't hear the band?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;.it&#8217;s safe to assume you didn&#8217;t hear the band?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. West</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/blackplasticbag/2008/03/12/the-duke-ellington-orchestra/#comment-3175</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael J. West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the correction, Kevin. Although the fact that one person in the band spent 10 months in the band (he joined in mid-1973, according to the bio on his website) during Duke's lifetime, does not suddenly make them worth $37.75 plus processing fee plus food/drink minimum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the correction, Kevin. Although the fact that one person in the band spent 10 months in the band (he joined in mid-1973, according to the bio on his website) during Duke&#8217;s lifetime, does not suddenly make them worth $37.75 plus processing fee plus food/drink minimum.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Barrie Lee Hall did play with the band under Duke's leadership.  He joined in late 1972. Why don't you at least get your facts straight before encouraging people to not show up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Barrie Lee Hall did play with the band under Duke&#8217;s leadership.  He joined in late 1972. Why don&#8217;t you at least get your facts straight before encouraging people to not show up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz isn't dead, it just smells bad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz isn't dead, it just smells bad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's the Ellington ghost band.  Just like the Basie band, Glenn Miller band, etc.  I would actually love to hear Duke's popular arrangements and suites live, performed by a good band.  Then again, the records give you the real thing.

$37.75 before add-ons?  This is one of the big reasons why the music is dying.  Some have got it to the point where it's no longer for the people.  Museum music belongs in a museum. Or at least Lincoln Center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the Ellington ghost band.  Just like the Basie band, Glenn Miller band, etc.  I would actually love to hear Duke&#8217;s popular arrangements and suites live, performed by a good band.  Then again, the records give you the real thing.</p>
<p>$37.75 before add-ons?  This is one of the big reasons why the music is dying.  Some have got it to the point where it&#8217;s no longer for the people.  Museum music belongs in a museum. Or at least Lincoln Center.</p>
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