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	<title>Comments on: The &#8220;Duke Ellington Orchestra&#8221;?</title>
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		<title>By: Washington City Paper: Black Plastic Bag - DEJF: NEA Jazz Masters Concert</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2008/03/12/the-duke-ellington-orchestra/comment-page-1/#comment-12903</link>
		<dc:creator>Washington City Paper: Black Plastic Bag - DEJF: NEA Jazz Masters Concert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in March I wrote a post about The Duke Ellington Orchestra when they were beginning a stand at Blues Alley. I pointed out [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael J. West</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2008/03/12/the-duke-ellington-orchestra/comment-page-1/#comment-3180</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael J. West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m taking the liberty of guessing your next question, Kevin.

I have nothing against the actual quality of the music that the so-called Duke Ellington Orchestra is playing. Nothing. But seriously...what we&#039;re talking about is basically an hour at Blues Alley--which doesn&#039;t let you stay for the second set without paying double--for FIFTY bucks. There&#039;s an expectation when people pay that much for a show: not just high-quality music, but high-quality music played by famous musicians. 

In this case, the band has the &lt;i&gt;name&lt;/i&gt; of the famous musician, without the actual &lt;i&gt;presence&lt;/i&gt; of the famous musician; it doesn&#039;t even have the less famous musicians who were nonetheless famously associated with that famous musician. At best, it has a man who was in the band for a brief heartbeat of Ellington&#039;s career.

Put it this way: if Herbie Williams (Charlie Parker&#039;s last trumpeter) had put together a quintet of unknowns with himself as the leader, billed it as the &quot;Charlie Parker Quintet,&quot; and charged $37.75, plus surcharge, plus $10 minimum...wouldn&#039;t you think that was a bit exorbitant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m taking the liberty of guessing your next question, Kevin.</p>
<p>I have nothing against the actual quality of the music that the so-called Duke Ellington Orchestra is playing. Nothing. But seriously&#8230;what we&#8217;re talking about is basically an hour at Blues Alley&#8211;which doesn&#8217;t let you stay for the second set without paying double&#8211;for FIFTY bucks. There&#8217;s an expectation when people pay that much for a show: not just high-quality music, but high-quality music played by famous musicians. </p>
<p>In this case, the band has the <i>name</i> of the famous musician, without the actual <i>presence</i> of the famous musician; it doesn&#8217;t even have the less famous musicians who were nonetheless famously associated with that famous musician. At best, it has a man who was in the band for a brief heartbeat of Ellington&#8217;s career.</p>
<p>Put it this way: if Herbie Williams (Charlie Parker&#8217;s last trumpeter) had put together a quintet of unknowns with himself as the leader, billed it as the &#8220;Charlie Parker Quintet,&#8221; and charged $37.75, plus surcharge, plus $10 minimum&#8230;wouldn&#8217;t you think that was a bit exorbitant?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. West</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2008/03/12/the-duke-ellington-orchestra/comment-page-1/#comment-3179</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael J. West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard what was on the mySpace page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard what was on the mySpace page.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So....it&#039;s safe to assume you didn&#039;t hear the band?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;.it&#8217;s safe to assume you didn&#8217;t hear the band?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. West</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2008/03/12/the-duke-ellington-orchestra/comment-page-1/#comment-3175</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael J. West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the correction, Kevin. Although the fact that one person in the band spent 10 months in the band (he joined in mid-1973, according to the bio on his website) during Duke&#039;s lifetime, does not suddenly make them worth $37.75 plus processing fee plus food/drink minimum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the correction, Kevin. Although the fact that one person in the band spent 10 months in the band (he joined in mid-1973, according to the bio on his website) during Duke&#8217;s lifetime, does not suddenly make them worth $37.75 plus processing fee plus food/drink minimum.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2008/03/12/the-duke-ellington-orchestra/comment-page-1/#comment-3174</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Barrie Lee Hall did play with the band under Duke&#039;s leadership.  He joined in late 1972. Why don&#039;t you at least get your facts straight before encouraging people to not show up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Barrie Lee Hall did play with the band under Duke&#8217;s leadership.  He joined in late 1972. Why don&#8217;t you at least get your facts straight before encouraging people to not show up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz isn't dead, it just smells bad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz isn't dead, it just smells bad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the Ellington ghost band.  Just like the Basie band, Glenn Miller band, etc.  I would actually love to hear Duke&#039;s popular arrangements and suites live, performed by a good band.  Then again, the records give you the real thing.

$37.75 before add-ons?  This is one of the big reasons why the music is dying.  Some have got it to the point where it&#039;s no longer for the people.  Museum music belongs in a museum. Or at least Lincoln Center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the Ellington ghost band.  Just like the Basie band, Glenn Miller band, etc.  I would actually love to hear Duke&#8217;s popular arrangements and suites live, performed by a good band.  Then again, the records give you the real thing.</p>
<p>$37.75 before add-ons?  This is one of the big reasons why the music is dying.  Some have got it to the point where it&#8217;s no longer for the people.  Museum music belongs in a museum. Or at least Lincoln Center.</p>
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