The three guys sitting at the bar at Town Hall in Georgetown swear it’s a true story: A friend of theirs called a buddy in the middle of a sexual conquest, placing his cell phone out of view. When the voice mail picked up, it recorded him asking his lady, “You like that Republican cock?”
The guys are wearing golf shirts and drinking Miller Lites. They’ve been telling raunchy tales about what happens after dark in Georgetown, playing toward expectations. They know I’m a reporter on assignment. At first, the sordid tales of preppy hookups just make me laugh.
Then the bearded one in the middle busts out with this: “Do you like anal sex?” I squint. I’m confused. “Do you do anal?” he repeats, head bobbing with excitement. The litany continues. Do I want to take it in the ass? Have I ever taken it in the ass? My silence is taken as an affirmative and he announces that this interview will go no further unless he receives a hand job. I retreat into a hole carved out during similar sessions in high school and head for the door.
Later, at home, I decide to find the fellows online. It’s easy to do since these were no run-of-the-mill meatheads. All three are members of Late Night Shots, a very exclusive, invite-only social-networking Web site. The anal-sex proposition came from John Tabacco, a 25-year-old graduate of Georgetown Prep and Denison University. His friends were both graduates of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
Late Night Shots caters to Washington’s hard-partying preppy crowd. Think of a new generation of young Republicans getting trashed at St. Elmo’s, hooking up, then writing about it at 3 in the morning. The bar-scene-themed Web site launched in late spring 2006 and has since branched out to four other cities. But it’s nowhere near as popular anywhere else as it is here in D.C. Founder Reed Landry, a prep-school boy from McLean, Va., claims he has 14,500 members and that a third of them visit the site every day. He and partner Neel Patel say they make enough money from Google ads and banner ads to abandon outside employment.
LNS operates like MySpace and Facebook, but with a heavy emphasis on booze. To get an invite to the site, you need a connection among the clientele of a few select Georgetown night spots. Users have “drinking buddies” instead of “friends” and must list their favorite bars and restaurants. There are fill-in-the-blanks for your sorority or fraternity, your golf handicap, and your country club. The online profiles show a population dominated by good- looking blondes and smirking guys with athlete’s shoulders. They attended the University of Virginia, as did Landry, UNC, and a smattering of pretty-good-but-not-Ivy schools in the South and Mid-Atlantic. Under the space for employer, they list investment and lobby firms and jobs on the Hill.
Most categorize their political views as conservative. Many are Episcopalian or Presbyterian. The overwhelming majority are white. Some people describe themselves simply as WASP.
The Late Night Shots online forum, launched last August, provides comedic fodder for liberal D.C. commentators, especially the gossip blog Wonkette, which started a weekly feature called Last Week’s Shots. Forum posters have made light of date rape, bashed brunettes, and compared notes on handouts from Mummy and Daddy. A classic thread:
change of pace
Posted By: H on 10-20-2006 1:01 pm
Any suggestions for a little change of pace this evening? I was a bit turned off last night at SP [the Georgetown bar Smith Point] when a girl screamed at me for referring to my boat shoes as loafers—goodness gracious i’m bush league.RE: change of pace
Posted By: Anti on 10-20-2006 2:38 pm
If I have said it once I have said it 1000 times. DO NOT EVER, EVER even go near Adams Morgan. That place is Ghetto.RE: change of pace
Posted By: correction on 10-20-2006 2:41 pm
Adams Morgan is only do-able if you limit yourself to a few bars that are close together.Every minute you spend outside of an actual bar your life is in danger. And do not, DO NOT attempt to get a late-night slice of pizza unless you are a pro.
Any by pro I mean ready to fight people.
RE: change of pace
Posted By: Boat Shoes on 10-20-2006 2:49 pm
Everytime I’m in Adams Morgan, I take on at least 3-4 Ethiopans. Skinny little bastards are feisty.
People like “H” and “correction” have been exchanging their thoughts on boat shoes and skinny foreigners for ages. LNS has simply made an industry of channeling these like-minded folks to places where they feel comfortable. And that would be Georgetown.
In addition to generating business at bars along M and Wisconsin, Late Night Shots serves as a running record of each night’s events. New messages appear every minute during the workday, recapping last night at Smith Point and Blue Gin, or looking for new action at the Deck or Saloun. The narratives include references to premarital sex, not to mention cocaine and marijuana use.
Landry, 26, says the raunchy posts are made in jest, and when I tell him about my experience at Town Hall, he’s appropriately horrified. He doesn’t think the incident means the forum’s crassness has crossed over into real life. But Landry doesn’t help me pinpoint the line between fiction and reality on Late Night Shots. To let me in on that secret would undermine his network’s exclusivity. You have to be at the party yourself to really know. And you can do that only if you’re on the list.
You Are Not on the List
Tonight
Posted By: Action on 12-16-2006 4:45 pm
Where is the party?RE: Tonight
Posted By: All over the place on 12-16-2006 4:55 pm
And you’re not invited.RE: Save our Streets - Georgetown
Posted By: WS on 08-24-2006 1:35 pm
We should start carrying guns everywhere we go in Georgetown. Unlike the barbarous horde, many of us have actually engaged in some target practice.
Smith Point is the quintessential LNS bar for one reason: It has a list. The Bush twins are on it, so are many regular LNS posters. The only day you can get in without being on the list is Thursday, when the bar hosts charity fundraisers.
The Thursday I decide to go, the designated charity is the Polaris Project, which raises money to fight international human trafficking. The invite promises a kissing booth. Apparently no one senses the irony.
I get to the bar early, and, too nervous to enter before my sidekick arrives, end up hanging out across the street with a group of men who just got out of their weekly Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. They’ve been wondering about the regular throngs of drunk preppies across the street. I finally wander over alone around 10 p.m. and walk down a short staircase into a dimly lit bar. Everyone looks up. Several people smile. A girl stationed at a little table deposits my $5 donation in a lock box and welcomes me as if I belong.
My first impression is that everyone at Smith Point is as nice as the hostess. I sit down at the bar and easily slip into conversation with two young men. Both are members of Late Night Shots, but they claim to hate the site. They describe the posters as “a bunch of idiots” who give their crowd a bad name.
Both are wearing polo shirts, collars neatly folded down (they say no one pops their collars these days). The men in the bar sport a classic look: Along with the red polos (the signature color of the LNS set), they wear blue blazers, madras shorts, loafers, and boat shoes. Khakis are flat-fronted and top-shelf—Brooks Brothers, J. Crew, etc.
Deviations from the uniform, like a striped pullover from Old Navy paired with cargo shorts, invite severe judgment. According to several vocabulary guides on LNS, such attire denotes the status of “turbo,” a term suggestive of a Long Island mall boy with gobs of gel in his hair and maybe a puka shell necklace.
Code words like “turbo” and “turbette” help posters maintain the site’s exclusivity. The lingo ranges from abstruse to obvious. In addition to “takedowns” and “going to poundtown” or “PT” (getting laid), there’s “big timing” (snubbing someone, often a member of the opposite sex, at a bar), “smoke” (an attractive LNS member), and “RBV” (a Red Bull with vodka, the preferred drink of many LNSers).
Established members take pride in warding off invaders, often employing online tricks to out newbies. One common trap: A member posts a link on the forum, suggesting people check out another member’s profile. Readers who don’t know the ins and outs of the site and its protocol click on the link and inadvertently send the member a drinking buddy request. It’s a seemingly minor overture, but in the world of Late Night Shots, an embarrassing faux pas.





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I'm surprised that the City Paper would employ a known plagiarist.
via the web: False light invasion of privacy occurs when information is published about a person that is false or places the person in a false light, is highly offensive to a reasonable person, and is published with knowledge or in reckless disregard of whether the information was false or would place the person in a false light.
Although this tort is similar to defamation, it is not the same. The report need not be defamatory to be actionable as false light. This type of invasion of privacy tends to occur when a writer condenses or fictionalizes a story, or uses stock footage to illustrate a news story.
False light includes embellishment (false material added to a story, which places someone in a false light), distortion (the arrangement of materials or photographs to give a false impression) and fictionalization (works of fiction containing disguised characters that represent real people or references to real people in fictitious articles).
As for naming names, perhaps it's appropriate that rampant racist and misogynistic douchebaggery should finally result in some consequences.
I thoroughly enjoyed your article. It portrayed an element of the District that most of us commoners arent privy to. And judging by many of the negative responses it seems you may have it the nail right on the head.
Keep up the good work.
You sound poor and bitter. Go buy some more tight jeans.
Dear Diary,
The cool kids made fun of me again today. I HATE THEM SO MUCH!!! When I grow up I'm going to get them all back by getting a minimum wage job at a 3rd-rate local free newspaper and writing mean things about them. That will show them.
Sincerely,
Angela Valdez
I find it highly amusing that commenters are reacting to what they view as libel with statements that could be considered the same - e.g., accusations of the author being "blackout drunk" and "groping men."
I'm also not sure how asking ..."what it is like to be a black man among such a uniformly white crowd" is racist. It is about race, yes. But does asking a black man about racial dynamics constitute racism? And does it ..."mak(e) a racial issue out of (LNS)"? Sounds like just another way to insult a woman who showed your social group in a negative light.
I'd like to see an LNS-er defend the group in a more intelligent way than by bashing the article and its author. So far nobody has.
You cant approach a smart ass, ask him some questions clearly to provoke a certain response and NOT expect an exaggerated response.
Is every human that tells an off color joke a dirtball?
Let's be honest here. Any large social group has their fair share of jerks and assholes. Have you ever tried hanging out with the hipster crowd in DC (a social group I'm confident Ms. Valdez would associate herself with)? I have and I'm here to tell you that they can be just as rude, obnoxious, and elitist as anybody else ("You're not a Democrat and you voted for Bush? Goodbye!!"). And despite their disdain for "conformists", the joke is truly on them because they are conformists like the rest of us, albeit in distinctly different ways. Whether it's the obscure but hot indie rock band or the latest hipster t-shirt (my current fave "I LISTEN TO BANDS THAT DON'T EVEN EXIST YET"), these people are no different.
At the end of the day, they hate because they are jealous. Jealous of our priviledge, jealous of our economic success, jealous of our fun. I hate to say it but they hate us for the same reasons the terrorists do. Perhaps that's why they all want us to withdraw from Iraq and hand victory to al Qaeda on a silver platter? Ok, I better stop before I go off on a major tangent/rant here.
Oh my god, I just peed my pants. Fuck. How am I going to explain that to the bosses? "Sorry, I have to head home. Either somebody is a really great satirist, or actually believes the whole 'they hate our freedom'" partyline. Either way, it was hysterical, AND - the poster couldn't spell 'privilege". Oh, the irony! See you tomorrow."
Not poor, quite comfortable. I went to one of those "not-quite-ivy-league" schools Angela refers to and I have experieince with you preppy fucks. I should have known not to move to DC, they stretch far and wide in this town. I will agree though that hipster jerk-offs are barely better than preppy fucks. Oh, not bitter either, just love pissing on the Paris Hilton types living off daddy's money, you can't defend your way of life, so you cry slander, libel, and etc. Like cockroaches you hate having the light shined on you.
If a release was signed, that is one thing, but journalism, where you name specific names or quote specific people without their knowledge, it is illegal. Additionally, I think Angela makes some pretty lofty statements about several people. To address your libel burden of proof argument. The proof is actually on the writer. If I were Angela, I would be worried. It seems ripe for a huge settlement considering the reputation of the site and those quoted.
This is emblematic of libel suit and win for the complainant, Polanski vs. Carter. http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2005-07-22-polanski-libel-win_x.htm. Moreover, asking the question is not so much libelous, but reporting a fictional answer is. Just as insinuating with a reference to Tyrone “sucking dick for crack” that brings into racial-homophobic overtones. Obviously, using a predominant black name next to a question about a black person was used for its intended affect.
Finally, first amendment is easy to win when it is true. However, when it can be disproved with eyewitnesses and the reporter lacks hard objective evidence, a prolonged litigation could be very detrimental to the accused.
Guys, cut your losses and quit commenting. LNS prides itself on elitism and exclusivity. You are hardly representing these goals by defending yourselves on the Washington City Paper's comment section.
Also, everyone who dishes shit should be able to take some shit. If elite, then brush this shit off. If elite, then why do you care if "outsiders" are getting the wrong "generalization" of this close-knit internet community.
Congratulations, you now understand what its all about.
The founding fathers of the current radical islamic movement, such as Sayyid Qutb (1906-1966), based much of their disdain for western culture and civilization on our "materialism, individual freedom, economic system" etc. which they view as a threat to their fundamentalist interpretation of the koran.
So if by freedom you talking about my reference to privilege, economic prosperity, fun, etc. then no, I wasn't being satirical.
By the way, thanks for pointing out my one typo. Despite the age of word processors, I guess the world still needs good proofreaders like you.
Actually, everyone sensed the irony, given that it was noted by ALL of the hosts on the LNS Event invite that was sent out. Check your facts. It was supposed to be tongue in cheek.
There is a reason this embarrassing paper is free and staffs Angela vanslut. Let them have their forum of use posts and we will go back to our forum. Enjoy your crummy Indie music and making minimum wage. When I need your opinion or critique on privilege, I will be sure to give you a ring (and opinion) while I am renting a car and you are filling up my tank. Both of which you did a terrible job of doing. Hipsters—its no wonder you cannot not find a job. Keep writing about us and we will be sure not give damn whether you live or die. That is the thing about your purported privilege. While you are busy writing about us, we are busy running the world and making money so you have something to write. LNS end scene.
I'm a nerd, too.
I just found that out tonight.
We have news for the beautiful people.
There's a lot more of us than there are of you.
I know there's alumni here tonight.
When you went to Adams, you might have been called a spaz,
or a dork, or a geek.
Any of you that have ever felt...
stepped on, left out, picked on, put down,
whether you think you're a nerd or not, why don't you come and join us?
Come on.
(# "We are the Champions" by Queen)
- Hi, Betty. - Hi.
Just join us, cos, uh...
Hi.
(Gilbert) No one's really gonna be free until nerd persecution ends.
(Dean) You know, Coach, I think I'm gonna let these boys live over at the Alpha Beta house, while you and your boys rebuild theirs.
(Coach)
- And where the hell are we gonna live? - What about us, huh?
(Dean)
You're jocks, go live in the gym.
(all, softly) Nerd. Nerd. Nerd.
(all chant loudly) Nerd! Nerd! Nerd!
Nerd! Nerd! Nerd! Nerd!
(cheering)
Now I have to go home and try to wrap my mind around the idea that all those terrible movies with the drawling, cardboard-cutout, preppy children of privilege were, in fact, documentaries. And, apparently (seriously? In your THIRTIES?) those kids never grow up.
Too funny.
To open an article by stating (not implying, but stating) that one of the most populous neighborhoods in the district is fostering the “next” generation of “assholes” is totally unacceptable. I myself am not from Georgetown, but the use of the word “next” implies that previous generations, and hence all residents, are “assholes” themselves. Regardless of one’s thoughts about how being wealthy affects a person’s attitude, morals, sensitivity or other qualities, such an offensive and generalizing statement is preposterous, especially in the headline of an article. I learned in my first introduction to literature class during my freshman year of college years ago that such a statement is wildly inappropriate.
I could move beyond the first line to point out further instances in which vulgar statements could have and should have but were not tempered with other reference words (e.g. “rear end” instead of “ass”), but I don’t think it is necessary. From then on she continues to use the unacceptable and behavior of a select few to discredit over 14,000 citizens as “assholes,” and further feels the need to put racial and political spin on the situation to further discredit her subjects. In additional to insulting the website users and Georgetown residents overall, she goes on to personally name individuals, almost all of whom by her own account were very cordial and friendly. Their mention alone in such a scathing and negative article will undoubtedly bring undue attention if not serious repercussions, which I don not see them as deserving for happening to belong in social circles which the author has deemed to be horrendous because of the actions of a few drunk bar patrons. Immature people exist in this world in all social circles, geographical locations and various financial classes ranging from lower to upper. Being in a bar a person is more likely to run into such individuals than in most places. Using an unfortunate and understandably traumatizing experience with a rude and drunk bar patron is no excuse to use one’s employment at a publication to slander an entire online community, neighborhood, and social group of people (DC private-school attendees). As awful as the author may think these people are, I doubt any of them would have stooped to the level of using their profession to publicly slander another person of conflicting beliefs. This was an angry, unprofessional and shameful vendetta from the first sentence and does not merit further time to be wasted on it’s analysis, except by the staff responsible for creating (and hopefully fixing) this abomination.
Vive la revolution!
To start with, holding irrelevant agreement or disagreement with the article, I am very surprised this article has been published by Washington City Paper, strictly based off the amount of vulgarities and the lack of professionalism with regards to basic ethics of literature.
To open an article by stating (not implying, but stating) that one of the most populous neighborhoods in the district is fostering the "next" generation of "assholes" is totally unacceptable. I myself am not from Georgetown, but the use of the word "next" implies that previous generations, and hence all residents, are "assholes" themselves. Regardless of one's thoughts about how being wealthy affects a person's attitude, morals, sensitivity or other qualities, such an offensive and generalizing statement is preposterous, especially in the headline of an article. I learned in my first introduction to literature class during my freshman year of college years ago that such a statement is wildly inappropriate.
I could move beyond the first line to point out further instances in which vulgar statements could have and should have but were not tempered with other reference words (e.g. "rear end" instead of "ass"), but I don't think it is necessary. From then on she continues to use the unacceptable and behavior of a select few to discredit over 14,000 citizens as "assholes," and further feels the need to put racial and political spin on the situation to further discredit her subjects. In additional to insulting the website users and Georgetown residents overall, she goes on to personally name individuals, almost all of whom by her own account were very cordial and friendly. Their mention alone in such a scathing and negative article will undoubtedly bring undue attention if not serious repercussions, which I don not see them as deserving for happening to belong in social circles which the author has deemed to be horrendous because of the actions of a few drunk bar patrons. Immature people exist in this world in all social circles, geographical locations and various financial classes ranging from lower to upper. Being in a bar a person is more likely to run into such individuals than in most places. Using an unfortunate and understandably traumatizing experience with a rude and drunk bar patron is no excuse to use one's employment at a publication to slander an entire online community, neighborhood, and social group of people (DC private-school attendees). As awful as the author may think these people are, I doubt any of them would have stooped to the level of using their profession to publicly slander another person of conflicting beliefs. This was an angry, unprofessional and shameful vendetta from the first sentence and does not merit further time to be wasted on it's analysis, except by the staff responsible for creating (and hopefully fixing) this abomination.
It's shameful to see that in an area so heavily impacted by the Tech shootings, before which the killer wrote "Did you want to inject as much misery in our lives as you can just because you can?" there are still people who combat attacks on their character with this:
"When I need your opinion or critique on privilege, I will be sure to give you a ring (and opinion) while I am renting a car and you are filling up my tank."
and this:
"...we will be sure not give damn whether you live or die."
Though I'm sure that if everyone who lost their lives in 9/11 were given the opportunity to speak with the nation, they'd most certainly ask affluent Americans to avenge their deaths by being rude to gas station employees.
I knew the article was made up when she claimed that some guy told her she was cute. I mean, come on:
http://www.myspace.com/angelavaldez
This is pure and simple POOR reporting. From speaking with those you interviewed, sounds like you had the story before the research began! Your "research" and interviews were designed to find the small tid bits/soundbytes that would provide some support to "your" story.
You have a future in one-sided reporting. Call MM for a research position on Sicko-2!
and they still drink red bull and vodka. OMG!!11!! that's like sooo 2005.
And the comments are a delightful bonus! I love how they are so lame!
Congrats!
the comments made by MGR are so incredible, i wish i had written them myself. if only someone can embroider them on a pillow for me, so i can rub my cheek against it and have beautiful dreams all night long of bombs over baghdad, bright as fireworks over the washington monument on the fourth of july.
Unfortunately Angela and City Paper get the last laugh here-- there's a reason they made it a front page expose, they knew they would stir the pot, and that the collective readership of LNS (and the blogs who hate them), would be linking and providing hits en masse. I will bet anything that it is the most traffic they have ever gotten, and that the will get for the foreseeable future, and that is a sad fact.
Ok, back to cheerleading for wars I will never fight in. Hell, I'm terrified of scary Adams Morgan. Too bad we can't sue the terrorists into submission and instead have to rely on poor, redneck, losers that go to dive bars to fight them instead.
Unless its an undercover CIA agent, then it's great. Ol' Bob Novaks still has his job.
Right on!
Oh wait, you're being sarcastic?
LNS Ladies, please realize that you don't need to feel shameful. That's the beauty of be a 20-something, single college grad! You have nothing to feel embarrassed about. Enjoy your freedom and realize that your sex life is your business only.
Try the 20's/early 30's Girls in DC group on meetup.com. Explore all there is to explore in DC and free yourself from this Frat Boy Bullsh*t!
Or even better: what do you call new money without a job? No money.
Sure, but where could we fit all of you? DC is such a big place.
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised -- if you're still a Republican after 6 years of the criminal Bush government, you have to be some sort of psychopath. Still, it was quite eye-opening to see that these people are really as horrid as I pictured them.
Happy goldfish bowl to you -- I hope a lot of you end up in jail when the shit finally does hit the fan!
Your History of Ideas lesson about Sayyid Qutb really drove home the point of the article.
P.S. The founding father of your religious movement also disdained materialism and the economic system.
This article totally demonstrates how pathetically elitist the social scene has become in DC.
I've been going to Georgetown for a long time but in the last few years started sensing snubbing by angry white women and white guys getting tough or making comments about me which led to many a potential fights.
I wouldn't be surprised if they allow minority women just so they can get their subversive white power rush.
I expect this behavior in the deep woods of Tennessee and West Virginia and certainly North Carolina but LNS definitely takes the cake.
It's certainly not enlighting to read about Republicans that believe in so called conservative values to also feel that they are entitled to get laid at their pleasure. Just be honest.
Frat boys, get over it...that was back in college, you are like that high school kid that nevr got over his day in school and now sells breast implants somewhere in the midwest...and you got a nephew named Napoleon.
Sad part about this, is that DC was quite diverse and you could pretty much talk to anyone, but now it's full of angry elitist women and closeted racist frat boys that quiver the moment their true faces come out.
As for the black guy at the end of the article. He clearly is aware of his surroundings and that's great for him, but seriously, just because you've got money, do you want to be in a room full of people that don't even want you there?
Don't start crying now...more than likely, my younger brother hangs out with LNS crowds because he's just as useless as the crowd in the article.
Valdez! Great article! Bet that guy that wanted anal sex is now sticking a rolled up CIty Paper up his ass...truly livign to his last name.
Keep talking, kids. Every time you open your mouths, everybody hates you more. Get used to it: you've got many years of people hating your preppy, self-entitled asses coming to you.
That being said, you really have to hand it to the guys that run SP and LNS. Put yourself in their position: You're a semi-dorky guy who doesn't fit in anywhere but among your republican group you've found in Georgetown. And you have Dad's money. Here's the idea: Let's use that money to start a private bar where we only invite like-minded people. Combine this with the fact that we work on the Hill(making the big bucks--yeah, riiight) so we have connections with the cute intern/hill staffer girls and talk up our exclusive bar. There you have it. We've created a "scene" and we're at the epicenter. To Poundtown we go!
I'd say that's pretty damn smart. Kudos.
I'd heard some stories about LNS, but thanks for the vivid detail... and the comments, BonusScore!
My country-club, Greek affiliated friends from my very own elite, Southern and almost-Ivy alma mater have described this crowd as mostly insecure, douchebag, social climbers who weren't satisfied with their self assessed level of "prestige" in college.
BMW or Mercedes? Polo collar up or down? RBV's or Light beer? ... you crazy kids, so privileged and sophisticated. You'd probably vacay in Lagos, Nigeria if Paris & Jenna mentioned it was hot. oh f*#k, its too easy.
And in fact, kudos to Angela for telling it like it is.
The newsworthiness of this article is the sad reality that this disgusting, though well off, segment of the population will be tomorrow's leaders, perhaps even tomorrow's frat-boy liar of a president.
The rest of us need to wake up to this and do something about it. No, I don't want to go to your lame parties or be a part of your silly site and participate in your adolescent nonsense. But what I really don't want is people like you making decisions that affect the rest of us.
Someone was fired WHY? Back up your statement with facts rather leave vague comments. If it was someone in the article whose name was already released, your statement will hold much more weight.
I don't got to Georgetown any longer for the exact reasons Angela points out in this article. Since I don't have "family money," I'll never compete with those who are the stereotypical snobs that this article points out.
That being said, I have a lot of friends that you would never know came from family money. Those people were raised right.
See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libel" rel="nofollow">here</a> for a good explanation of it.
Slander = speech
Libel = more permanent medium.
Of course, for either of them to be illegal, the things said have to be _wrong_. Which it doesn't seem to be, in this case, judging by the douchebags posting here.
I always thought it ironic that these kids always had coke that was so much lower-quality than the stuff east of 18th st NW. Good luck, dummies, though God knows you'll never need it.
p.s. the terrorist comment was the best of all.
I must say, after seeing your picture(s) on myspace it is very difficult to lend any credence to the claims or assertions made in your piece. It is probably fact that your horrid appearance brought about long periods of self-loathing and perceived social alienation, which surely led to the smoldering jealousy and hatred that is so evident in your piece.
Also, the plagiarism incident serves as a supporting example of your internal struggle (i.e., lengths you'll go to) with and longing for acceptance, be it personal or professional.
The unfortunate reality of all this, however, is that your actions only exacerbate your need for acceptance and feelings of alienation. This is your destructive cycle. You will encounter it over and over again as you journey through life. Please know that regardless of the fall-out from your article, you are still far worse off then the people you have hurt. And remember, when we both wake up and look in the mirror tomorrow morning you'll still be you and I'll still be me, and that's what allows me to fall asleep with a smirk on my face.
Get some help,
Addam
As for libel/slander...let's just say it wouldn't be an easy case unless we were talking about this in London. That being said, it was a fairly ignorant or mean-spirited maneuver to outright name involved parties when initials or descriptions would suffice. This all reminds me of the xoxohth.com scandal that broke about some YLS students and internet postings - a good rule of thumb might be "avoid naming names when it's not critical to the story"
These guys sound like a HOOT. where i'm from (MILTARY background- you don't have the clearnace) we might talk about it but we never get any like some of these rich cocksucking bitches sound like they give it. It's enough to make you want to be young and full of kum again. I just don't like buttsex like John Tobacco?!
Thank god the LNS people don't come to midtown.
I know for a fact that at least one person got in trouble from this article and had to have a talk with her parents. This is just not cool. How much trouble would it of been to make up names for some of the people. Wether you put ANdrea Rogers or Jane Schmoe you could have still done it. Granted, the story would have still been lame but that's not my point.
If you want to talk about the racism thing, well, sorry that we don't all think Ethopians sucking on our world-class heath care and welfare system is what we worked hard for (or parents). That's just a fact of life, I know that and however else Angela Valdez, which may be an immigrant name for all I know, trys to spin it those of us with a vest and interest in things are smart enough not to listen.
Case in point, if Tobacco wanted a hand job, just give it, I'm sure it's not a big deal. He was there to RELAX which most people don't seem to get.
She even admit's that everyone was a perfect gentleman, and probably is just bitter that she'll never screw anyone that she didn't find at the $1 bin. Hey I hang out with a wide range of people and I know the type. I have friends of all walks. In fact I have two friends that work RETAIL so don't tell me I'm insensitive.
Bitter tears and a sad comment on Angela. Good thing some of my fellow LNS'ers heard to call and came to set the record straight. Thats called having BACKUP and FIGHTING for what's right Angela. Not wriitng in a paper I never even heard of!
In the end, whatever, just know that anyone who isn't on LNS is not going to be on either of my yachts (Wet Fantasea, one also in Mass.) and that's for a REASON
There's my .2 cents.... from Margaritaville
What it comes down to, children, is that you're living off the money your parents made while behind their backs you're whoring and boozing it up and praying that word doesn't get back to Mummy and Daddy.
What are you going to do if the 'rents hear about this article and see what kind of life you're leading on their dime?
Bottom line: you're a bunch of cowards, desperately frightened of the parts of the world which aren't entirely populated by smug preppie Caucasoids exactly like yourselves. You'd shit the leather seats in the Beamer your folks bought you for managing to graduate from prep school if you ever took the wrong exit and found yourself in Southeast D.C. I hear those black men have HUGE cocks and can steal any women you might have. Be afraid, be VERY afraid!
You HAVE to drink at every opportunity because your world is hollower than a basketball. In twenty years, you're be as big an alcoholic as your Mummy.
Keep telling yourselves you're somehow, inexplicably, intrinsically superior to the people you see on the street. Keep killing those brain cells with your trendy drink; it'll keep you from contemplating the incredibly mediocrity you really are.
Ha! I didn't see that until after I posted my comment. Did I SAY something about "what if your parents find out how you're spending their money"?
The REALLY hilarious part is that you can't see what a child playing the part of the Sophisticated Urban Adult you are!
Most of us may be working stiffs but we don't have to wet our diapers worrying about what will happen if our parents find out how we're living because they're paying the freight.
I truly wish you could see how hard I'm laughing at the whole bunch of you right now.
The article, while entertaining, was completely irresponsible and certainly not very balanced - I now have full names for two girls that are insinuated to be easy. Waiver or no, "truth is a defense" or no, AV's choice to name names was a bad idea. I can't believe her editors let this through, and I'm sure that the City Paper's lawyers are going to lose sleep over this one.
That said, many of the LNS'ers would be well-served to stop showing their classlessness at every opportunity. People aren't jealous because of your money or your fun - people can simply find you irritating on your own merits. (And the LNS women - I assure you, you don't have to marry misogynists.)
I should have never dared to dream.
Furthermore, the article was beautifully written, a good read and entirely proper, for all the pompous whinging about journalistic ethics you lot responded with.
Angela, you're my hero. :)
You awful people are living off of their merits of your family -- your so called birth right.
You have not earned anything but the contempt of those who work hard to make their money and establish their family name.
Ha -- you are frightened by Adams Morgan, U Street, or even God for bid - H Street
You expolit the rich folks who work hard and give back and make their own way.
I just graduated from GWU -- a wannabe Ivy League school where I was surrounded and inundated with these cherubs. Their pompous, "I am always right and know better than you" really gets to be too much.
They do not have class -- they have money. They work hard at slacking hard.
They are Al Gore's son who went to St. Albans and was kicked out for smoking weed on campus and the destroyed the prinicpal's car in the school parking lot.
They will be pumping gas if they do not drastically re-evaluate their lifestyles.
For the guy that alluded to war on terror -- you must really be a drunk or on dope. That is too funny.
But in all fairness -- the city paper does print a lot of bullshit --- this is a good article but the girl that wrote it is a weakling too. She is also a sucker and a bamma.
You can see it in her writting -- she is amused that someone would mildly call her cute in an enviroment where sexually laced innuendo is thrown around with great ease.
Also, --- yeah -- the way she refers to Tryonne Biggums -- "To get crack -- you mix cocain and baking powder -- and I think I tasted a little bit of egg and cinnamon." Does she know that he is a charater on the Chappelle show? The way she alludes to the profile -- she does not know that. That is pretty blaring.
For the guy who made the post from his boat --- that is pretty funny too.
This --- is the great fun !!
Ha.
Take care and be safe out here in the city.
One of the persons she "outed" is a medical student from another country. I know that he will do a lot more with his life to help other people than a gossip writer for a local ad rag. Irresponsible journalism.
People in DC who talk about how they're "important" invariably think they're hot shit because they're a staff-ass for their local Republican representative.
I actually *did* go to an elite prep school and did, along with my friends, go to an elite university. And you know what? I'm one of the only people who moved down to DC. Anyone who's actually done anything interesting in law and finance lives in the NY-metro area (LNS'ers go into science? Hah!).
And my former classmates abandoned the polo-and-boat-shoes uniform *years* ago.
But hey, don't let me stop you. Honestly, with money and good looks, no one's ever going to ask you to be intelligent or interesting before paying attention to you, so feel free to go on with your mediocre lives while thinking you're actually important.
1) everyone is more complicated than an article can portray them.
2) Stereotypes are more powerful in smaller towns.
But, good God - those people who have posted repugnant replies to the article in which they demean people they disagree with by portraying them as part of an inferior economic class? It's a shame that your breeding (or lack thereof - were you raised by wolves?) didn't prompt you to revise your comments before you posted them. If the kids of upper class DC are truly this bratty, then God help the United States.
A. Schenkenberg: "I know for a fact that at least one person got in trouble from this article and had to have a talk with her parents." At least the gas pumpers don't have to cry to mommy to get their allowances.
lol at MGR's post: "Jealous of our *priviledge*, jealous of our economic success, jealous of our fun." Sure -- that's exactly why people laugh at you: because they're jealous. *rolls eyes*
ADDAM: "Please know that regardless of the fall-out from your article, you are still far worse off *then* the people you have hurt." I didn't think this was funny until I saw the poor bloke's parents misspelled his damn name. Dude never had a chance; can't even speak his own language.
oh, honey. You aren't running my world. you aren't even IN my world. I know the LNS 22 year olds love to feel they have some sort of actual importance beyond their adorable little website, but it's just not true. Kissing ass every day on the Hill and puking up Smith Point's offerings every night does not a world leader make ye.
http://www.metafilter.com/62878/The-Best-and-The-Whitest
additionally, it includes a comments section that is exclusive only in the sense that metafilter requires a small donation to comment. so get out your gold card if you want to comment there too.
her high school experience (seized upon by the comments) provided her with a steadying defence mechanism in response to "fight or flight" reflex. she had the presence of mind to flee yet has the courage to fight the puerile provokations of sadly persistant *ahem* jerkoffs.
LNS, if you want to do an expose piece on "hipsters," i doubt your insights would match those of ms. valdez herself, should she choose to. i'm hardly distracted.
ms. valdez needn't feel distress when she looks in the mirror, or fear the pictures she chooses to share with her friends online will be tagged “i want to fock juck it,” “goddamn you’re fucking hot! motorboat it,” “get it shorty,” “frontal pic please of soaked shirt,” and “applaud good photo at drunken event.” her parents have the right to be concerned about her choice of acquaintances if that were the case.
and i dare say she needn't feel distress when she looks in the mirror. if i were to offer her a compliment, i think she's talented. and human.
but you've thrown me completely off track here. racist sexist rape "jokes" and "advice" are not often so off-handedly expressed by grownups. if the forum is indeed filled with "jokes" and the events are actually pious post-debutante fundraisers, that is beside the point. the forum was hidden, scandal has gone public, and it's either time for full disclosure or the alternatives... tried and true republican ones like attacking credentials, appearance, class, yadda yadda. i doubt full disclosure, and i suppose the LNS website "shredding" is in progress as we speak.
thanks for another lesson in how "damage control" is done in a post-GOP world. sorry you've lost your credibility and maybe your job, funny guys.
The bizzarre part about the comments is that most people have turned it into an issue about economics. This is not an issue about rich vs. poor in DC -- LNS certainly does not have a monopoly on rich, good-looking people with good jobs. Anyone can join LNS, and most are essentially hangers-on who WISH they were rich or good-looking. It's essentially a group of 400 people sitting at the popular table in high school and 1000 more trying to sit with them. At the end of the day they're just 1400 generic people all congratulating eachother for being the best at being the same.
But still, Angela, come on. Do you seriously think you wrote a great piece of incisive journalism? It was pretty cheap and weak. No gray lady for you!
As for the people she named... that's unprofessional. I have a feeling we're not getting the whole story on the anal sex guy. If someone came up and asked me questions that implied she was prejudging me or associating me with date rapists, I would probably fire back with a question that associated her with sodomists (not that there is anything wrong with that). It looks like she insulted the interviewee, he insulted back, and then she took his out of context by lowering the bar and using his words and displaying them on a publice platform so she can have the last laugh.... that looks like the cry of a sore loser. Great idea for an article... entertaining, but just wrong to use names.
Great, hilarious, and revealing story. You must have known these people would attack you pretty viciously (although some of these comments..DAMN). Still, don't let them get you down. This is thorough and entertaining reporting, and frankly it's good that people know G-town (is that next to Poundtown?) really has these freaks walking its streets.
You write about immature, entitled, completely out of touch people and you know they're going to stir up a s**storm. Keep up the good work, and while they're complaining on message boards, the rest of us will keep laughing at -- if not quite pitying -- them.
Oh wait, in these people's world there are no consequences for their actions. Why woudl they expect them now?
i like being comfortable in georgetown. i like being "safe" with my crew in loafers, sorry boat shoes. chicks dig me but you already knew that....can't wait to tell everybody how katie, the slutty gamma yells UVA.......FK ME!!! while i pound her and look at myself in the mirror and think about how her "friend" stephanie's gonna be on my knob tomorrow nite....
whoa....fk yeah.
Congratulations on being among life's "winners." Just remember the other half of that anal equation and bottom out every once in a while, bros! A cyst on the a** is a good way to dodge a draft bullet, you know what I'm saying? It's all good!
Call me,
Rush
PS don't forget the falafel, Hells Yeah? LOL!
You poor kids. Those Ivy League educations didn't penetrate at all, did they?
And speaking of educations, for any parents out there reading these comments, I will soon be offering a series of courses entitled "Not In High School Anymore: Why Using Terms Like 'Hipster' And Proudly Spending All Your Free Time Drunk Makes You Appear To Be 15 Years Old." The perfect gift for your arrested-development twentysomething! Spare yourselves the public humiliation AND the eventual rehab costs!
Oh wait I probably need to explain to such privileged and upstanding members of society what a Target actually is. And I'm not talking about Tramp stamps.
as long as life's a beauty contest, it seems fair to post this... she looks like everyone I went to high with... um, back when we were in high school?!
If this is the creme de la creme of the LNS crowd, I've got to say the people might be moderately attractive, but not in any kind of compelling way that makes you stop and take notice. Maybe it's just because I was raised around so many boring WASPs that I'm over it. Plus, no amount of self tanner, blondeness or toothiness saves one from resembling a Norfin Troll.
http://sydlexia.com/imagesandstuff/spring/troll.jpg
If we're going for blonde, bred and banal, she's a sad substitute for Gwyneth.
http://photos.washingtonlife.com/index.php?category=gallery
Btw, LNS, I am not jealous of your wealth, your success, your crazy fun, etc. It is those damn boat shoes. How can one be expected not to covet them?
They fit me like a 15-year-old snapper...
No?
Addam
Oh, WHOOPS! Looks like that already happened! Sorry, boys and girls!
And the Adams-Morgan-is-a-scary-place-to-go comment in the article made my day. I can't imagine what they'd think of U Street! "Jiminey Crickets! Are-- are those real black people, Landon?" 'Yes, Preston, I do believe so." "I hope I can sprint in these boat shoes!" Douchebags.
I say that "Reed" "Otis" "curtis" "Dakota" "Montana" "Wellington" "coventry" and all those other tools take their money, buy an island, and rid the district of their kind....elitist bastards.
Thank you very much for the biggest laugh I've had this week.....you make yourselves out to sound like a bunch of Mother Teresas, but you're google "resumes" sound more like a bunch of Zoolanders.....absolute comic gold.
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City Pape, a social network is a good place to develop TEAMWORK skills. My two sons both learned that early in life, now they are both succesful. Too much time on the internet is bad for your social life? Where are the boat shoes.
Damn straight.
I'm also a homo.
And let me tell you, if you've never been to Smith Point quite possibly the queerest bar experience, your missing out. And yes, there were girls there, and yes I dazzled this slinky little cross eyed bitch with big guns, I crushed it after leaving the bar with her. In that regards the night was a moderate success.
The girls that brought me were the worst! I've never seen anything like it, I love bitches and Lobster for that matter, but the people there definetly wanted to push this standard bar as something special and "secret" missing only the handshake to get it.
Now if you've accomplished something of note, can really dance and generally a pretty interesting and hip person, this place is for you! But not in a good way, it's kind of like the brilliant movie Twister. If you watch it as a serious movie your burned, but if you blaze, flip it and watch it as a comedy it'spretty fucking special. Simply because of the depths of retardation.
The girls I met said, "totally" and "seriously" almost every other word, and spoke of people with extreme adulation I'd never heard of, it was like an adult tree fort with bar. After that night I went back again, older dudes at work that couldn't get laid in their grave were asking, "Yo, I heard you went to Smith Point and crushed, I heard" blah blah / so naturally I wanted dude to slay something, he was DC prep and later Vanderbilt guy, dressed the part and hadn't been laid in months.
He had a great time, I left half way through it, went to Third Edition and started a fistfight. It was all too much, a crashing of the systems. being from Boston I often wondered where all the bar fights went? I actually missed them and after my experience in SP for the 2nd time, it was just too much.
White kids that bring nothing to the table while accomplishing zilch, smearing their views and airing thier ignorance prevented me from trying to nail a ho back to back. This was years ago too, so they ain't lyen about standard white slinky chicks in there by the dozens, but it's a hefty price to pay if your not a Republican.
Also, some real gems on the comments here, the Adam's Morgan stuff is gold, the terrorist stuff gold, and this quote (which sums up everything pretty much, guy is prob 30!)
"I know for a fact that at least one person got in trouble from this article and had to have a talk with her parents. This is just not cool."
is gold as well. Mommy will find out, hey bro, that's just not cool, she has to pay her own credit card for the next two months, dude this city paper thing is out of control, I can see this guy saying that!
Also on the LSN website they have a code of language availible,the site is very easy to join and you can then post ridiculous comments further scrathing that which ought to be clawed.
the listed short hand language is so far from elitist, it's way behind the times and speaks again to the typical un hip nature of your basic white preppy circle. It's ironic only because to be truly "hip" is just what their looking for. To be classic, and "in" a trend setter atop of the ever changing and radical "scene." But these types ain't going to do nothen with that, against everyone else, that's where the skills come through. No, no, no much easier to start an underground society centered around this one bar where you beer chugging adventures of being in one place and your racial epithats can be spit and heard to laughter instead of challenge.
great reading though for a hung over day at the office, Angela is the best, I'm def going to hit her up, buy her a drink and say congratulations!!
Furthermore, it points out just how young Washingtonians are divided and how our generation instead of having reasonable dialogue amongst each other,(dialogue that could result in a better understanding of the differences in our society and overcome challenges that our children will have to face), result to further divisive tactics of pointing fingers, quoting this or that in this context or another.
Author, you failed to highlight the true problem that perhaps is valuable from your article. Instead, you have actively isolated more individuals into an exclusive not thought provocation circle, and let us be realistic, at one point or another some of them, just like some Wonkette readers, will become adult members of our community and even leaders, and they will make decisions that will shape our society. Isolating them or any others by superfluous criticism leads to nothing. Tolerance and understanding is what our generations need to stand for, not petty clique wars.
I got here from www.Feministing.com, at which this story is being linked to as a headlining story on the front page.
I would advise everyone involved in this story to be aware of the fact that thousands of people are laughing at what a giant group of classless assholes that you all are. Your names are known, and you will be singled out. People all over the internet think you are all low-class losers.
Have a nice day.
Only at a school where athletes are allowed -- nay, encouraged -- to rape, and abuse, a fine upstanding minority, could such behavior become so accepted, as to be glorified, through a website.
One can argue that this revamping of Duke's principles, stemmed when Mike Krzyzewski took the reigns, of the men's basketball program. While he achieved much success on the court, his principles in life, and society, carried over to the school.
Which, in turn, carried over to the rest of the United States! :eek
On behalf of Coach Chefsky, I offer my dearest apologies, to those involved. To Ms. Valdez, who was treated so poorly, in her efforts for this fine piece of journalism. To Mr. Landry, (who, I assume, bears no relation to LaRon Landry, of Joey Gibbs' Godsquad), whose business and character has been besmirched, on the internet. And finally, to those posters of LNS, whose previous undisturbed world has, been capsized.
OK, then, I won't insult my transistor.
Jeez, clowning these guys is way too easy.
Who the hell are you people? Get out of my city.
You act like the members of LNS are criminals, when they are simply doing the same things the majority of you people do every time you go out. Is it such a crime to sleep with a girl when she's passed out cold? And if she's out cold, is it such a crime to strangle her a little bit?
If we were wearing hipster outfits instead of Lacoste polo shirts, would we really be any different?
Also whoever mentioned the Whale shorts - thank you so much! I love those things! I crack up everytime I see or think of them. Grown men dressing like toddlers - priceless!
What was your favorite color during your teenage years?
How's about we skip the small talk and bartering and just take each other to Poundtown?
Do you like anal? Like most assholes, mine is stamped "Members Only".
I feel like thanking these people for providing me with an interactive Bret Easton Ellis novel I can visit anytime.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to return some videotapes.
I hope all the LNS people realize maybe 8 people get to be president in their lifetimes, so odds are, it ain't gonna be one of them. I feel sorry for my generation. Especially if these are the people tha end up in power.
I have a feeling LNS membership is about to become even more "exclusive"...as in nobody will admit to being a member.
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These comments continue to highlight this shocking expose of the worst in America. These idiots currently occupy the West Wing and will someday be in power. I hate walking around Georgetown and seeing these f***s with their pastel polos and red shorts being loud and ignoring the poor and destitute. They are racist, elitist, spoiled pricks whose existence is defined by your list only bar and your wannabe exclusive site. We need to neuter these conservative a$$holes before they procreate and reach positions of power.
Privilege, economic prosperity, and fun = do u do anal? TOO FUNNY!
You people are KILLING me. You can't possibly believe this is the real DC!Seriously, I'm gonna need you to take a trip to the reall DC to see what friendliness and class really looks like. Just start walking EAST and you'll get there...but you may wanna change those "boat shoes" dude before you start hiking. Seriously ROTFL at these HOT TRANSPLANTED BAMMAS.
They took down the Mayflower?
lol @ douchebags whining about how they appeared in the paper.....from the LNS forum.
"Davis Berg" finds this story in the fourth page of Google hits.
Poor Coventry Burke's name does hit on the City Paper story in the first page of Google results, but only after several links dealing with horses and/or Washington social life.
"Katherine Kennedy" draws far more Google hits for being a former Miss Arizona and/or a socialite than she does for having her name in the an alt-weekly.
Google knows "Andrea Rodgers" better for being in a "DC Fashionista" MeetUp group and for having pictures appear in Washington Life magazine than for being quoted in Valdez's story.
And a Google search on "Otis Ofori" reveals that he and his twin Curtis filmed an MTV reality show on spring break in Cancun, which probably means the LNS crowd should steer clear of him (may have turbo cooties) but also means any employer who's going to be leery of him because of Web hits already has plenty of reason to be suspicious.
Good luck with that lawsuit, though.
Joe was worried.
"How can these guys get cool?" he said. "My hands seem full."
Thus, the premise was laid for "Fat Joe's All or Nothing Undercover," the show that plucked "two unsuspecting guys out of their ordinary existence," according to mtv.com, for 36 hours of Spring Break partying with Fat Joe and his Terror Squad.
http://www.cavalierdaily.com/CVArticle_print.asp?ID=22901&pid1277
Anyway it isn't worth wasting any more time on here. You've made your points and to those (my fellow LNSers and those people with a Brain) who were here by our side, that's what it's all about. For the rest of you turbos, all I can say is ask yourself why you're so bitter and Grow Up.
Now I know to avoid Georgetown even more than usual, thanks!
1.) the neo-con pricks from LNS that Angela "Exposed" I whole-heartidly agree that the idea of an elitist young republican is hillarious... And being someone who has been to and hates Smith Point got a huge laugh out of the premise of the story. I have walked into these "yuppie" bars and have been judged or labeled a "trubo" or a "loser" or just looked at like I didn't belong. Granted, that is part of life, I sucked it up instead of whined about it in a paper... But seriously, you guys (not all of you but some of you) want to be little Trumps or Jr. Santorums so bad it really makes me hate the level of Freedom W. says he tries to protect so hard.
2.) The people who are being labeled as hipsters (?) who love the article, and are glad to see the people that ostracized their lifestyle get what they deserve... yet are bashing them so hard that they actually appear to be more disgusting of a human than the subjects of the article... Cheering about the fact that peoples individual names and reputations have been badly damaged by this is not cool, I don't give a shit who you are or how offended you were by the article.
3.) And finally there is the staff of the city paper... These people gave the greenlight to a fluff piece high-school gossip story that is a mirror image of the actions of Stephan Glass and his piece "Spring Breakdown" in the New Republic. Angela Valdez not only wrote a cowardice piece that unfairly portrayed a person telling a joke as a sodomist. For those of you that no John, he is a comic of sorts... if you insult him with an insulting question, he will respond with a funny off kilter insulting response... It is a shame that the author had to get the last laugh by misprinting it.
MOST IMPORTANTLY... the fact that Angela will not respond to any of the questions regarding the legitimacy of her "quotes" and context. She chooses to hide behind her "boss". Journalists should stand behind their work, and by avoiding these questions, it looks like Angela is in turn fraid of exposing herself and her own gross misrepresentation by avoiding these questions. Ironically, her avoiding these questions kind of resemble the slow witted moron republican that the LNS folks are accused of loving and aspiring to be so much... (I have all of the correspondence on email too.)
LNS people... Since Angela is too much of a coward to answer your pressing questions, or simply admit that she is facing legal actions, she said her "boss" (that asks her to be silent) can be emailed at ewemple@washcp.com
so-called-hipsters... Let's not beat a dead horse. They got what they deserve(?) in your eyes. And some got it much worse than they should have. Let's not go around dancing in the ashes.
City Paper... Grow a pair of Journalist balls... Anyone can tell a funny story, but they are usually able to back it up. Back your story up... You can either hide which makes me question the legitimacy more, or you can address it with your notes, signed releases from the names you used, and any other mediums you may have used to record this "groundbreaking" story.
"the rapper seemed confused. "Who are these kids?" he said.
Joe -- sporting an oversized graphic T-shirt and chains of platinum bling that shone in the Cancun sun -- ogled the kids' clothes.
He questioned their slim-fitting, lime-green-and-pink polo shirts."
HA HA HA HA!!!!
"the bright-green-polo-clad producer said that he liked their "preppy flow." The twin thing probably didn't hurt either, they said."
BRIGHT GREEN LIME-AND-PINK PREPPY POLO FLOW!!!
"Otis recalled a minor collar crisis on their first run-in with the rapper. "At first Fat Joe wasn't digging the preppy flow," he said. "He kept flipping the collars down and we'd flip them back up."
Otis summed up his favorite aspect of living the MTV life with three letters, "V.I.P." "Meeting celebrities, bypassing lines, no cover charge, unlimited drinks..."
They stuck a cigar in a girl's vagina?!?!! Is this NORMAL is D.C.?!??!?!
If this article is only 50% true, then some of you should really be ashamed of yourselves. You need to look up the word "gracious" in the dictionary. People of privilege should be humble about it. Some of you Nancy-Boys are really revolting. Please, do yourself a favor and grow up. Get some responsibility for Christ’s sake. What a waste of good educations and high IQs.
Do you really enjoy hanging out with men who think you and other females are nothing more than a piece of meat to use for their own sexual gratification, especially when the females are vulnerable and drunk? Oh, yeah, they have a lot of responsibility to handle. As a female, I embarrassed that any woman would defend such disgusting behavior. Respect yourself more.
I have a Brain.
I went to a good school (one that isn't considered "not-quite-an-ivy").
I have a good job that brings responsibility with it.
Hell, I even shop at the same stores as you people for the most part.
But I have more class in my fingernail than you could possibly hope to aspire to.
I'm thirlled to see douchebags like the ones who got fired losing their jobs.
Maybe it'll teach them a little bit of humility.
You know, it's sort of like that other unfamiliar term, "grace".
And these are supposed to be people that are "elite". People who don't even know the definition of libel? People who are going to try and sue someone for writing about their party? I can't decide whether I'm more surprised at the sheer lack of intellect from them, or the fact they haven't realized that high school ended a decade ago for most of them.
Have a good weekend people. I AM NOW OFFICIALLY AFRAID AND EMBARRASSED TO GO ANYWHERE IN DC... LOOKS LIKE I'D EITHER MEET THE LNS NEO-CON PRICKS OR THE HIPPSTER TRASHTALKERS. I REALLY LOVE THIS CITY AND PROUD TO HAVE IT AS MY HOMETOWN, SO CAN YOU ALL STOP BAD MOUTHING EACHOTHER? WE GET THE POINT... EVERYONE SUCKS NOW LET'S ALL SHUT THE FUCK UP.
But feel free to bad mouth me for my typos
The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented by Man to get to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups: Liberals and Conservatives. Once beer was discovered, it required grain, and that was the beginning of agriculture.
Neither the glass bottle nor the aluminum can was invented yet, so while our early human ancestors were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.
Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what became known as the "Conservative Movement".
Other men, who were weaker and less skilled at hunting, learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the "Liberal Movement". Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as "girlie men".
Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the trade union, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide up the meat and the beer that the conservatives were providing. Over the years, conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant.
Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.
Modern liberals like imported beer, (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish, but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare.
Another interesting, revolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than liberal men. Most social workers, personal injury lawyers, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood, and group therapists are liberals. Liberals also invented the Designated Hitter Rule because it wasn't "fair" to make the pitcher also bat.
Conservatives drink domestic beer, and eat red meat and potatoes. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, soldiers, athletes, and generally anyone who works productively outside of government. Conservatives who own companies employ other conservatives who want to work for a living.
Liberals produce little, or nothing. They like to "govern" the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed, and created a business of trying to get MORE for nothing.
This ends today's History lesson....
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Then
Adam and Eve hung out with some dinosaurs and shit until God got bored and killed em all.
I am white. I am a WASP. My ancestors came over on The Mayflower. Many of my female relatives were DAR members. I am related to Robert E. Lee and Thomas Edison. I am a direct descendant of the man who once owned all of the land that is now Georgetown (BTW, he was an indentured servant, so know what kind of "low-class" land is actually your stomping ground). I make a respectable living doing little work. I am attractive. I have symmetrical features and blue eyes. I speak two languages fluently. And yet I think your little club is complete bullshit, most of you seem to be no more than "white trash with cash", and, truly, it isn't just this article making you come off as a disorganized assembly of rapists and enablers. Seriously, good luck with that. Good luck with everything.
1) Tourist trap
2) Keep the Georgetown teenyboppers from venturing too far into the city where Daddy's money doesn't have enough influence to get them out of a jam.
I'm glad to see it's working as designed.
I seriously doubt the 14,000+ members all resemble Nordic deities and float two inches above the pavement as they walk. I'm picturing some pretty busted-looking motherfuckers-- you know, chunky girls with headbands stretched to full capacity trying to catch the eyes of effeminate, sunburned boys in pleat-front slacks. Yes, and we know everyone is at her most attractive with puke dribbling out of her mouth and her head knocking into the wall with every tiny-pricked thrust. And no one is more appealing than an arrogant date rapist!
Ugh, wait until one of these white Carlton Banks types gets AIDS from a K Street tranny hooker and spreads it rapidly around his circle through coerced sex. Gawd, a nice rough $25 session featuring an open pee-pee wound from vigorous pre-country club dance masturbation is really effective at letting The Hiv in.
They'll destroy themselves from the inside, I reckon, it just won't happen fast enough for the rest of us. And in the meantime, they'll shit out enough new members to keep the herd fat.
Sounds like a hot time!
And if anyone is doubting whether we are talking about an old money crowd in Georgetown bars, here is a study ranking the zip coes 20007, 20008, and 20016, among the top 40 in terms of share of population in the Social Register:
http://www.box.net/shared/uxvq2eo16z
Washington Life has gobs of evidence of whiteboy shenanigans going at SP. I myself have taken plenty of shots of some you acting so shameful, you'd dropped a deb faster than you can say chukka.
Just be happy to have a your little play grounds in GT, and learn to STFU if you don't want get quoted in print.
The rest of the city is much too adult for some of you goofy brats and your klingon wanna-bes.
Angela, hilarious article! You hit that one right on. Nice work.
Ca-CAW!
Do a Google of this Coventry Burke person... yeah... not THAT hot. I mean, she's not ugly, and is indeed attractive... but if this is the type of girl that gets the LNSers all hot and bothered and dry humping their pillows at night, then I think we should all let them have their exclusive club. There are much better looking (and likely more interesting) people in the world to meet. Let them have their club, just as we each have ours.
Oh, and if you haven't done so already, I suggest going through Wonkette for the "Last Week's Shots" articles... the one about the guy's condom breaking, not telling the girl, then posting about it, then having her post back because she thinks she might be pregnant and he won't answer his phone... priceless...
Funny stuff though... funny stuff... Keep up the good work DC, you don't have your reputation for nothin'!!
Go Duke!
Also, in these comments someone is starting to call GWU close to ivy league? That's someone who would make LNS kids look bad. People who try to cling on and create a fake status for themselves. If you have status you know it and don't need to flaunt it.
But, hey, at least Mimsy and Biff are sort of self-selecting themselves away from the rest of us. Silver lining?
Trust fund kids deserve no respect or deference of any kind, sorry.
(and sorry, ms. sedaris--i love your work. no insult meant by the comparison..)
More burnt umber, ladies?
No!! Say it's not so! Dear God, what has the world come to when your actions have consequences?
“My ancestors came on the Mayflower.”
Yes, they did. And then they looked around for the Mexican maid to mop it up.
“I dont think anyone is for the chilling of free speech but this doesnt mean Angela Valdez has blanket freedom to publish people's names that do not want to be published and, furthermore, link these names to sordid sexual remarks. Angela Valdez is an irresponsible journalist.”
Yeah, how DARE she print "sordid sexual remarks" that were made to her in a public place? What has America come to when a person can't proposition a total stranger for anal sex without that person having the decency to protect the propositioner?
“But you have to realize that we as LNSers have alot of responsibility to that comes with it. We are conservative because we know it works best for ourselves and the world.”
And with THAT comment, never again need ANYONE wonder why these smug little shits are so despised.
Now off you go, LNS'ers. Somewhere, an orphan is crying himself to sleep because he's never learned to play polo. Go. Teach. Give.
Last link (before Google Books caves to pressure and drops the title):
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0
HA HA HA! You fuckers! Don't let me catch you in Adams Morgan, I'll have your fucking wallets!
We're outside the gates, you human scum. Better tip those Blackwater boys generously!
I love how these LNSers refer to themselves as "conservatives." I bet none of them could even get through the first 5 pages of an issue of "Commentary" or "First Things."
While I suspect that's true, that really doesn't mean anything. These LNSers are a pretty good representation of what constitutes conservatism in this country today, at least in DC. "Commentary", "First Things" and other conservative intellectual (to the extent that's not a complete oxymoron) journals don't count for much in real life politics, other than as a way to get people who have decent vocabularies to join up with the yokels and the rich kids without feeling too guilty about it.
That having been said, I doubt these LNSers are much of an elite. As some have stated above, they sound like they are mostly a bunch of affluent kids from rather provincial backgrounds who are striving to join the elite (which is a lot more liberal and cosmopolitan than they are, and thus will reject a lot of them), but who are not actually part of the elite. This is all to the extent the term "the elite" has any consistent meaning these days, anyway.
You are all poseurs of the first order.
If you are so "connected" and "upper class," why did you go to a second tier college? I have no respect for people who look down on others, yet couldn't get into an Ivy League school -- hell, at least go to Berkeley, for god's sake.
In my circle, we laugh at LNSers -- with your faux-riche trendiness and your hysterically self-conscious fashion sense. Brooks Bros.? J. Crew.? That's just a half-step above Sears now. Who, besides 12-year-old girls, shops in any store that you can find in any MALL? You are consistently AT LEAST 2 years behind on everything you do: Sailing? (snore) Polo? -- polo is for Brits and new-money southerners who want to APPEAR aristocratic. And don't get me started on RBVs...that drink is so dated, you might as well be drinking Cosmopolitans.
Everything about you screams "please don't notice I'm middle-class."
Oh well, I guess if you are happy with it, it shouldn't bother me. After all, it seems to be getting you laid, so far be it from me to cock-block.
Ladies, however, have no excuse. If you are going to whore yourself out, don't do it for some entry-level wannabe bureacrat who--if you're lucky--will barely have enough clout to get your kids into Chapel Hill (it is a STATE SCHOOL for Christ's sake! Who needs help getting into a STATE SCHOOL!)
Sure, I went to the best schools, and I have degrees from Ivy League institutions, but I have to wear that on my chest to get anywhere. I am smarter, better looking, and more refined than most people -- THAT'S what separates me from the pack, not some "do you know who I am" attitude. I party with ANYBODY that gets me: rich, poor, black, white, hottie or uggs--let the rest figure it out. Until then, enjoy hanging out in your (empty) exclusive clubs telling the same bullshit stories to anyone who will listen.
PS - And D.C.? Really? D.C. hasn't been hot since 1978. Do yourselves a favor, get on the ACELA and head up to NYC. At least there the twenty-something assholes are actually rich somebodies instead of wannabe poseurs.
http://www.google.com/search?q=wright+sigmund
It was Wright Sigmund's brother who did it.
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=25569
here's an idea: ask yourselves why you care so much.
The article doesn't say: Was even one of these svelte blond butts in the uniform of the United States military...you know, fighting over there so we don't have to fight them over here?
These aren't conservatives. They conserve nothing. Well, except for being cheap to charities. They're simple frightened cowards. Drink up, darlings. What war?
you all are so lame its incredible. Thanks for bringing this to light - whoever the author is.
This is so funny. I have to share it with my co workers.
AWESOME!
"Angela,
I thoroughly enjoyed your article. It portrayed an element of the District that most of us commoners arent privy to. And judging by many of the negative responses it seems you may have it the nail right on the head.
Keep up the good work."
nail.on.head.
Don't even batt an eyelash that these poseur, Boat-shoe wearin, Madras short sportin' CLUES F#$*'s try to slander you like they do every other woman that turns them down or exposes them for the LOSER twits that they are.
GREAT article!! Bet Mr. "Anal Sex"'s parents are REEEAL proud of their spawn....LMAO
That said, I enjoyed reading the feature. I'm hoping the City Paper has the vision to hire a WASPy writer, put him or her in a band T-shirt, and send that person to Adams Morgan to document hipsters dating/hooking up, etc. I'm sure right writer could equal what Angela Valdez found.
(By the way, if you want to prove libel, you have to prove the writer knew something was false and printed it to hurt the subject. It's a high standard and there's a reason for that.)
Anyone who is frightened of Adams Morgan should probably go ahead and off themselves. Bunch of sheltered pansies.
This writer should be commended. All you guys can do is bitch because you're mad she made you look like the douche bags you are.
Ahhh...the joys of low IQs, having a rich family and being a sheep. Great combo.
It makes me want to move back to DC because I never had a chance to curb some popped-collar low-IQ douche bag and throw him in the canal. Someday...someday.
their comments only serve to prove that these LNS douchebags are even worse scum than they seem to be from the article
fantastic article Angela.
Does the sunlight make you squirm little kiddies? Good, now STFU and GBTW.
ding ding ding
none of you have a libel case you focking morons. go crack a book and stop crying. I piss on people like this.
That's right, fired. I wasn't even mentioned in the article, but the sheer volume of libel (and slander, too) it contained caused my boss to walk into my office, kick me in the gonads, and fire me on the spot.
I wish all you ugly and poor people would just DIE already. How do you even reproduce???
I guess now I'll just have to go back to my parent's home in Larchmont and pass the time fly-fishing with my father.
He'll call up some of his I-banking buddies, and maybe - just maybe they'll help me scrape together a new life in NY selling interest rate swaps for JP Morgan. God, I am ruined. RUINED!
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
"Speaking as someone who comes from an Actual aristocratic and titled family with a valid coat-of-arms and knows the true meaning of old and new money"
YOUR LIFE IS A JOKE
Talk about getting REAMED!! Guess that ANAL SEX wasn't so fun on the recieving end...especially WITH NO LUUUBE!!??.....Ouchhhh
Way to pound that azzzz Angela!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA--
Show these Republican losers who's really bossssss--
Well-written, entertaining, and illuminating. Kudos on a job well done.
"Whoever shuts his ears at the cry of the poor, they also shall cry themselves, but not be heard."
-- Bible
Agreed. While I don't live in DC, I've been there enough times to know that Adams Morgan, while it may not be the poshest area of town, isn't a free-fire zone, either. Actually, it's a pretty typical, somewhat-scruffy party area, of the type that pretty much any big city has. Anyone who is afraid of going to Adams Morgan and isn't over 60 years of age is pretty pathetic. I'm from Texas, and our right-wing fratboys would laugh at the idea of anyone being afraid of going to a part of town like that. LNSers, y'all are wussies! Raise your game.
I have no problem believing any of the things in this article, and the whiny personal attacks on the author only cinch the case against these kids. The fact that a lot of them seem to be in political and/or legal professions only reminds me why the current scandals with the Republican party are as wide-spread and abominable.
Besides, she is cute. I have had it with blonde, WASPy types. If you cannot have an intelligent conversation with someone, they are not in the slightest attractive. And in my experience, women who obsessed with marriage and social climbing are not the most interesting conversationalists.
1. Jack Ellis is right. Dumb dudes from Landon from middle-tier private colleges may have rich dads, but they're certainly not "significant," except in the sense that they may have finished close to the top of the country club tennis championships a few times. Bottom line -- it's tough to be significant without being smart.
2. I know plenty of rich republicans. Many (i.e., a vastly disproportionate number) of them turned out to be closeted homosexuals. While I don't think this is "news," I'm somewhat surprised that it wasn't mentioned in the article. If dressing-up in pants with pictures of sailboats isn't at least somewhat of a giveaway, you must be smoking something.
3. Let me say a word about the kids from my college who went to schools like Landon and Georgetown Prep. Besides the closeted gays, most of these dudes were beer-chugging lacrosse players (or were wannabes who had quit the lacrosse team). Actually, I'd say that most of these were nice people--cocky and dumb, maybe, but fun and personable, too. I found the St. Albans people to be smarter, for whatever reason. In any case, no one thought of these laxers as "important," especially in comparison with the super-rich New Yorkers (and maybe some Californians), unless they thought that a dull country club life in Maryland funded by an inheritance was somehow extremely desirable. As I said before, you can't be significant without being smart (unless you're W, and your dad was beyond significant).
4.
"I hate to say it but they hate us for the same reasons the terrorists do. Perhaps that's why they all want us to withdraw from Iraq and hand victory to al Qaeda on a silver platter?"
Jeeeeeeeeezus fucking christ almighty this is funny.
Being unintelligent, offensive, incompetent, so diplomatic, racist and naive is one of the biggest luxuries that one can be afforded to those with money. Who else without money would be successful and be afforded those privileges?
This is exactly why we need to have the Estate Tax. The less money daddy can leave to these assholes, the better.
Was he acting like an asshole for what he said to Angela? Judging from the article and comments I'd probably say yes. Knowing John, I'd guess that he was probably going tit for tat with Angela, trying to be funny (she admits she was laughing) before she got offended when it became too personal. I'd dare Angela to post her side of the interview. What did she say before John and others "played towards expectations" as she puts it?
What hurts me the most is to see his public image carelessly tossed around like this because of a biased (it is biased, Angela) article.. reading these posts... it just makes me sick to my stomach. I am just a normal dude. I won't pretend to know the law.. But honestly here, his name was mentioned in the first few paragraphs of a slam piece. And he's being made into something he is not. To me, the posts that trash his name seem to contribute to a case that his public persona has been manipulated as a result of the City Paper's story.
Great stuff, Angela.
All I know is, you're not getting an answer until you give me a handjob, beeyatch.
"I can see George Bush precisely in this environment, say, 30 years ago; getting laid and its various permutations being way more important than anything going on outside the bar, including the Vietnam war itself."
FYI- Bill and Hillary supposedly met in gtown and frequented the bars on M street. Lighten up.
They didn't then and they don't now.
Gee, thank you for that, sincerely. So, do you like anal sex?
"Poundtown" IS the gay version.
as a colorist in an oh-so-swank dc salon, i gotta say that my most joyous moment comes when these bitches pay my $500 bill (inflated by their incipient, aryan blondeness) so that i can give my truly cool clients discounts (and i do)but they seem to think its cool to pay 4 times what their service should cost..perhaps the gene pool is a bit shallow on their end?
here's the secret only a hairdresser knows--blonde processing is the number one cause of female baldness due to breakage and thinning from harsh chemical treatments.
here's another--bet the carpet don't match the drapes.
I agree with most everything you say, except Bill and Hillary did not meet in Georgetown, they met at Yale. I'd imagine that Bill went to bars in Georgetown while he was there, but minor correction on the meeting part.
a very good friend of mine was a hyper-sucessful real estate broker for a big commercial firm in DC. came from old money. daddy went to harvard but despite that. buddy boy couldn't get in. couldn't even make it to georgetown, so his great shame was to graduate from GW. this weighed heavily on his social cred. (boo hoo, right? but to this guy, it MATTERED)
he partied. A LOT. he was a big guy. could outeat, outdrink and outsnort anybody in g'town. made "friends" (i.e. drinking/fuck/drug buddies) and spent his 20s and 30s kind of aimlessly drifting from job to job, all lucrative, but none engaging enough to keep him clean and interested in anything more than the party scene. finally, he met a great girl (not a size 4, but beautiful by most sane people's standards), who convinced him to give the smith point scene a rest. he went into rehab on the company dime and made a go of a drug and alcohol-free life for a few years. we were all proud.
this guy loved to travel, and it was during a trip abroad that the old party lifestyle began to rear its head. before you could say "red bull and vodka" the game was back on, full force. he started drinking, snorting, then smoking, then shooting coke, all from the confines of his posh waterfront condo. it wasn't long before the faithful girlfriend caught on and moved out, pleading with him to get help. he was in and out of rehab, bought a bunch of cars and real estate, partied with a variety of strippers, escorts and drug dealers as well as his old g'town cronies for longer than you think his heart or bank account could sustain it.
when he finally decided to get help, he figured he'd have one more go before he went into the seclusion of rehab. that was his last party. he overdosed in his bathroom with a tourniquet around one arm and wasn't found for 2 days. glamorous, huh? total rockstar young republican way to go out- straight outta a bret easton ellis novel, but the guy was 41.
at his funeral, i wanted someone to stand up and say that there was some quality others had missed- that he did volunteer work, that he read books to the blind, that he had a soft spot for small animals. because he did- all of those things were true. but the only things anyone (and it was a group pf coworkers and old pals that chose to speak) had to say was how he liked to "have a good time" to party down at the club, that he had many expensive posessions, that he was a savvy businessman.
while all of these things were valid, they seemed very cold comfort. he, like all of us, was a complex human being, with much more to offer than the fact that he was skilled at acquiring wealth. in life, he had blustery, cocky way of speaking, so much so that it put many people off. but he was generous, gregarious, and charming too. its clear that he needed to feel important-- that all his goods and self-medication were part of an elaborate system to stave off the fact that he wasn't really, in the grand scheme of things, more significant than anyone else. that he had failed many many times, perhaps more than he succeeded. he hadn't lived up to the old man. he didn't find the fountain of youth. and the hangovers never got any prettier.
a wasted life is always a tragedy. money (or the sustained illusion thereof) is a very poor substitute for things that really matter, kids. and alcoholics don't tend to age well.
That depends on which country club park bench you can offer me as a venue! (After dark, of course, being as I'm over a size 4.) Choose wisely, as this'll be it for 2-3 years; a gal's gotta maintain her marriageability, you know!
i think the author should not have named some of the poeple that did nothing wrong and associate them in such a way.
i think the author is not attractive at all and probably jealous of the "popular kids".
i think a lot of the comments by LNS people are fabricated jokes.
i went to gwu a few years ago and i think its funny they say getting pizza at adams morgan is dangerous because that used to be one of my favorite activities.
ive never come across these boat shoe wearing types probably because they were not hanging out in the same circles. still i must say i hate hipsters equally as much, they feel just as priveledged, are just as judgemental about what kind of shoes you're wearing and are just as elitist.
go back to high school kids.
I have slept with my share of LNS men, all immature scumbags in retrospect, and the one common denominator they seriously shared was an extremely tiny peee peee...like a cocktail weenie.......every single one of them.
Coincidence?? I think NOT
At least in the other cities, the blowhards have something going on.
NYC - the investment banking guys do really make a lot of money
LA - they really are trying to get into the movie business...some of them might actually produce or direct something
SF - trying to create the next Google, Intel, Yahoo, ebay, etc...some of them do
I think they sound very small time...move to a real city and see how you stack up.
No, really, you people are all deeply fucked up.
Please, leave DC and give it back to the people that are not scared to go to ADAMS MORGAN after 4pm.
P.S take your lame boat shoes with you
Any guy that would talk to a woman like that that he JUST met is a F$@$ing
idiot douchebag of the first order and deserves to be called out just like he was.
File this one under "be careful for what you wish for" John Tabacco. As someone else so eloquently put it--We hope you DO like anal, cause that's what you are getting!! Someone get this loser some ASTROGLIDE!!
Can't we just send all these guys wtih Ted Hagard and Tom Delay to a deserted island with a years supply of meth so they can work out all their anal sex cravings the way they really want it?? Now THAT would be poetic justice.
I remember, oh how I remember, when Adams Morgan was a great place. But those days are long gone. But a new era is beginning...Say it with me the cool and decent people of DC -- H street NE! The Atlas District! Home of the finest establishments in the city.
How deluded do you have to be to suppose that everybody who isn’t you is just a miserable, ugly proletariat? Attractive, happy people come in many different packages – in fact, a lot of us are far happier and better-looking than you are. Some of us even get paid to be beautiful. Some of us have great jobs and impressive educations – even though we grew up poor. Some of us are middle class and working in areas that actually let us reach people. Get a clue.
Here’s an idea. Take a look outside your isolated little clique and see the real world for what it is, instead of what you’d like it to be so the inflated sense of importance you so desperately cling to would be real.
As for your conservative “values” that work so well for you and society… you can thank liberal values for that abortion you’re sure to have to spare your family the embarrassment of an unwanted pregnancy – your trust fund will pay for it. And please, by all means, keep taking those hand-outs while disparaging the dirty homeless dude on the street asking YOU for one. And when mommy and daddy are done taking care of you, don’t worry. You’re husband will take over, freeing you up to spend time on stupid, asinine charities that teach poor kids how to play polo.
What a fulfilling, meaningful life you’re poised to lead. But please, by all means, do feel sorry for me some more while I enjoy my life, my work, and my independence.
Agree that there are many important issues to focus on, but I have to say, for a city paper that focuses largely on the entertainment aspects of the city, I think Angela did an EXCELLENT job in shining the light on these cockroaches that call themselves upstanding citizens.
She exposes them for what they are--drunk and stupid Anglo twits without a conscience and without a clue of any kind. I think it was a quite brilliant article--KUDOS to you Angela.
He was hopelessly NORMAL, with great blue eyes. Maybe to fit into Prep he felt he had to become a jerk and pretend his family swims in money. He was really nice back then but obviously that changed. It was simultanesouly funny and disturbing to hear about what happened with Angela during the interview.
Plenty of rich kids are nice and just fall into the LNS crowd because it's just what they're around. Money is not something that's bad. Good for the LNS crowd that they have money to NOT have to work their asses off to be successful. It's what, I think, every generation strives for, for their heirs and future family.
People like John Tabacco, they're the ones that give LNS a bad name, just to "be cool", have a story for their buddies that DO have money and so they can feel better about themselves in the end. You can smell the insecurity in it all. It's a little sad.
It's sad what people succumb to so they can fit in.
And! Angela did come off as jealous.
to the LNSer who spelled "tries" "trys" and then went off about how any intelligent person should hate immigrants: you're priceless.
I'm amused by all the angry douchebags that commented on Ms. Valdez's article. It's as if the rest of us weren't already aware that these dudes are just grown-up republican-frat boy tools, and these girls are east coast butter faces. Don't get me wrong, I love the east coast, but I'm from Texas and I live in California, and the caliber of good looking chicks in DC is...sad in comparison.
But I digress. These commenters are so up in arms, like Angela revealed some crazy-ass secret, "Oh no! Everyone knows we're a bunch of dickbags!"
We already knew...dickbags.
Second, why shouldn't full names be used? If Bob "I'm a Better Lay than William Nichols " Novak had used names, look at how much bullshit we could have avoided, including that atrociously over written letter to Judith "Neocons Make Me Moist" Miller. Besides, their names are so perfect you’d think they were characters in a Tom Wolfe novel. (see end of comment)
Third, I agree with MGD. We hate Late Night Shots because the terrorists do. Who doesn't hate douche bags and baguettes? When the radical Islamists are done plotting with Sadam Hussein to retake Iraq and then assassinate Salman Rushdie (and his foxy wife from Top Chef), they are going to grab a jumbo slice on 18th Street and come after this elite set of Episcopalians and Presbyterians. Reed Landry its best you hide now; Neel Patel, dude you're not white so the radicals probably won't mistake you for a LSNer.
Lastly (and I’m not saying this only because I think Angela is cute in a “My So Called Life” sort of way), but does anyone really believe she is biased because she described a relatively small group of people (only 14,500 across 4 cities! vs. the millions on MySpace and LinkedIn) who strive hard to as a group wear loafers & boat shoes specifically; uniform themselves in red polo shirts and blue blazers; with the girls in brightly colored sundresses; calculate the average number of years between sexual partners; think the skinny black people are Ethiopian; and the others bigger ones are just plain black; relegate anyone over size 4 as shameful; raise the most money they have all year so inner city kids can learn to play polo (I love this articale for these great details); obsess over red bull vodkas and anal sex (unsure of which they like better); and lastly have names like (and you have to use the names because they really are descriptive): John Tabacco, Andrea Rodgers, Reed Landry & (my favorite) Coventry Burke!
Rejoicingly, “A, CIBYJC?”
"Speaking as a member of the titled upper class, you don't get it, do you......If you want to talk about the racism thing, well, sorry that we don't all think Ethopians sucking on our world-class heath care and welfare system is what we worked hard for (or parents). That's just a fact of life, I know that and however else Angela Valdez, which may be an immigrant name for all I know, trys to spin it those of us with a VEST AND INTEREST in things are smart enough not to listen."
Please, please STOP, you're KILLING me! VEST AND INTEREST?? I'm betting this guy thinks this phrase has something to do with owning a special vest! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ho heee hhee ha ha woooo
Please, please stop---these comments are exposing your ignorance! I'm laughing at the LNS morons and their willingness to expose their own stupidity!
When your ship has come
And you've got the stock market beat.
But the man who is worthwhile
Is the man who can smile
When his pants are too tight in the seat.
Angela is angry because I wouldn't let her blow me. I'm too classy for that whore, so now she wrote this article. Just so you all know."
Ah Landry, you blew it. All your peeps went to bat for you and did their best to slander the reporter calling her all kinds of bad names in an effort to save your good name and you went and F.U.B.A.R.'d the attempt
A friend just sent me some pics of this Coventry Burke chick, and I gotta tell ya DC peeps, if that is what passes for "hot" around your town, you are in desperate straights! She would be a "5" at my school at best, very f@#$ing average.
It turns out my roomate has been lurking and worshipping these douche bags for the past few months, using the term "Turbo" and ordering boat shoes online. Now I know what a wannabe douchebag he is, because seriously, he needs to realize
1. he's asian
2. he's gay (probably)
3. he lives on 10th street.
(http://whyihatedc.blogspot.com/2006/06/this-is-mean-for-sake-of-meanness.html)
Anyone who worships THAT crowd needs to get shot. It's one thing to be a complete douchebag, it's another to worship douchebags.
At the end of the day, they hate because they are jealous. Jealous of our priviledge, jealous of our economic success, jealous of our fun. I hate to say it but they hate us for the same reasons the terrorists do. Perhaps that's why they all want us to withdraw from Iraq and hand victory to al Qaeda on a silver platter? Ok, I better stop before I go off on a major tangent/rant here.
wowsas, what planet does these people live on???
Clive Bannister
Cracked.com
Don't bother.
There are so many loopholes with the tax system, that with a good enough lawyer you could easily avoid paying ANY estate tax.
It's simple. Set up a limited liability company, limited partnership, or family limited partnership, and put the shares of your company/house/whatever into a qualified personal residence trust, grantor retained annuity trust, or just give out limited partnership interests.
At almost every level, there are accountants, analysts, and lawyers to scrape off "value" until you pay nothing (or close to nothing) to the IRS.
Warren Buffet wasn't kidding when he said he pays less in taxes than his secretary (or was it his maid?)
That LNSers actually think these nasty comments are helping their cause amply demonstrates how right you are.
Yes, you are the true elite who can look down at these wanna be elites who think their shit don't stink. Your shit, however, truly does not stink.
One can only hope that some of the aristocratic, English families who my peasant Irish ancestors killed during the Easter Rebellion were somehow related to you.
Workers of the World Unite!
In all seriousness, did anyone get fired because of being in this article?
Yall need to chill
keep sucking dick for crack and drink your red bawls!
Some day, maybe not today, maybe not this week, but some day, you will have to travel east of 18th Street. Maybe you'll need to renew your car registration, or buy a pair of shoes, or maybe you'll just get lost, make a wrong turn and end up in uncharted territory.
When that day comes, we'll be waiting for you.
Signed,
Black People
Looking at the photos of Reed Landry and his many friends online, I can't help but notice that these douchebags are ugly. No, seriously, they are ugly.
While they may be strikingly similiar to Mr. Patrick Bateman of American Psycho lore, I can't held but notice that the physical characteristics of lack of eyebrows, beer guts, misshapen faces, and future soccer mom groupies which average in the 3s and peak at 6 are NOT the genetic cream of the crop which Mr. Bateman imagined himself as. LNS is all artificial value. Stuffing their own existences with their self declared importance.
I mean, Megan Dean is in half the photos, and her forehead stretches on for miles. Trenholm Bogg, the Bush-Cheney is the prettiest in the group, and he's obviously a closeted homo. I fail to see the alpha males and good looking girls this article alluded to... Have you dumbasses ever been to LA? NYC?
LNS is minor league.
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hahaha! i'm still shocked that these are the aformentioned "power brokers" and "pussy magnets." haha!!!!!
so losers, oops, i mean lnsers, go bump some jimmy buffet and do lines off your girlfriend's flat ass while you chat about polo matches and creased khakis. let them have their boring, sheltered, georgetown existences, cause we got the rest of the world on lock, and i can say with utmost confidence that the ghettoest of ghetto block parties is eight million times funner than anything dc's richest and whitest could ever even dream of.
oh, and "coolest guy ever": girls and boys are actually the same species. who knew?
Donald Kimball: Yale thing?
Patrick Bateman: Yeah, Yale thing.
Donald Kimball: What whole Yale thing?
Patrick Bateman: Well, he was probably a closet homosexual who did a lot of cocaine. That whole Yale thing.
I think the basic point here is that DC's social scene just isn't that good. Dupont has decent bars, but not enough of them, and there are a couple of ok places scattered elsewhere in the city. By and large, the "scene" here isn't as good as it is in other "desirable" cities, including Boston, which is the only other city I know well.
Another thing--despite the fact that I can't stand stereotypical LNS folks, such as those profiled in the article, I think that the ones who "fit the mold" are few and far between. So why I don't like hanging out in G-town that much, I don't think these uber-preppy jerks are as pervasive as the article makes them seem.
Most troubling in this article is that said members are largely hill staffers, lobbyists, law students, etc. Dare I ask, what does this say about the political leadership and social climate of the future? Looking grim.
For those little young idiots who are worried about loosing their jobs and the such, then you shouldn't have done them or done them in a way which could get put out in public. I mean, you all are not mad at the LNS group members who post stuff about you, but get upset because a reporter does. Come on, Grow the fuck up.
A friend emailed me this story as I grew up in Arlington. Your town sounds pretty small time based on this article.
My advice, visit some real cities.
NYC, London, LA, San Francisco.
You guys look pretty bush league in comparison. By the way, in a real town, you don't talk shit about being rich unless you've made a lot of money YOURSELF. Making $50K a year as a intern for some douchebag House member you dad knows is a long way from being rich...Having rich parents is for bed wetters. When you're worth $10M you can talk shit.
"That depends on which country club park bench you can offer me as a venue! (After dark, of course, being as I'm over a size 4.) Choose wisely, as this'll be it for 2-3 years; a gal's gotta maintain her marriageability, you know!"
"After dark" was a given. I mean, I have an IMAGE to uphold here, Lane Bryant.
As for which park bench, "country club" indeed! I was thinking Lafayette Park. Wouldn't it be an illicit thrill knowing that George W. Bush himself could be looking out his bedroom window at us as we make the Beast With One Back?
As for the advice she gives, Andrea is always standing up for the underdog and telling these out-of-control girls to have more self-respect and that money isn't everything. She had a great post where she admitted to shopping at Aldo (heaven forbid), and she wrote that you should judge people on their character and not on the labels they wear. I think she said something about how the girl in Aldo shoes might actually have more money in the bank than a guy with Gucci loafers and a ton of credit card debt.
This city used to be shared amongst whites and blacks. I wouldn't be too angry at white people for being snarky and racist in private (or so they thought) given that yeah, black people did burn their shit and kick them out of this city in 1968.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
oh and HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAHAHA
goodness gracious sakes allmighty i am so glad i don't live in DC!
ted haggard. tom delay. jim and tammy faye. that senator from lousiana (with the escorts. shall i go on? anyone not hip (and that's definitely not limited to hipsters...a stupid word spoken by truly inane people lacking the vocab to accurately describe anyone....it's basically the same as in the 60's when the squares - with their identical hair and clothes - called anyone who thought for themselves a "hippie") to the terribly sad and disgusting, and ENDLESS, hypocrisy just OOOZing from the republican elite.... man, i'd just hate to be in their loafers...
I've found that when people speak with such fierce vitriol (i.e. "angela should be shot, i wouldn't let her blow me, etc.etc...) it generally stems from a very pathetic lack of confidence and a truly sad, sad, existence. especially for folks going around callin' themselves christian or whatever, i don't see much love.
for your enemy, for the poor (adams morgan, ghetto? are you FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!! please take a walk down s. capitol street round' midnight on a saturday), for yourselves. leave the namecalling back at the frathouse.
and be prepared to take the shit when you dish it so carelessly.
i highly praise this entire article and comment board for teaching us all that, ummm, hmmm, how shall i say it..... hahahahahahahahHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA DC.
yadadamean?
Money is something that does not buy class, I would have pegged this group to have figured that out some time ago, being that they are such old money and all. I mean at the very least they could have realized that going out in a fashionable, expensive style does not include Jcrew or Brooks Brothers.
Just a friendly suggestion from a DC expatriot now living in a city that would eat these kids for breakfast!
Cheers!
1. Jack Ellis is right. Dumb dudes from Tevaville and from middle-tier sole colleges may have boat shoe creating dads, but they're certainly not "good shoe makers," except in the sense that they may have finished close to the top of the country club yachting championships a few times. Bottom line -- it's tough to be Sperry top sider-esque without being smart.
2. I know plenty of good boat shoemakers. Many (i.e., a vastly disproportionate number) of them turned out to be closeted Van wearers who collect vinyl records, drink Vitamin Water, wear European carry-alls and big sunglasses and smoke cloves. While I don't think this is "news," I'm somewhat surprised that it wasn't mentioned in the article. If dressing-up in tight pants with pictures of skateboards and riding fixed gear road nikes isn't at least somewhat of a giveaway, you must be smoking something.
3. Let me say a word about the kids from my apprenticeship who went to schools like Clogdon and Berkenstine Prep. Besides the closeted Apple users, most of these dudes were chai-tea chugging soccer players (or were wannabes who had quit the soccer team ). Actually, I'd say that most of these were nice people—skinny and Urban Outfitter wearing, maybe, but fun and personable, too. I found the Croc School people to be smarter, for whatever reason. In any case, no one thought of these “footballers” as "able to make a fuckin boat shoe worth a damn," especially in comparison with the super-rich New Yorkers (and maybe some Californians), unless they thought that a dull country club life in Maryland funded by a boat shoe making daddy was somehow extremely desirable. As I said before, you can't be Sperry top sider-esque being smart (unless you're W, and your dad was beyond significant).
4.
if i ever come across a LNS party at my watering hole - you can be sure that i will do what any respectable nonconformist would do - and take my patronage elsewhere.
the only reason bars, charities, ect put up with these people is because they have money - and thats the way the world turns.
maybe one day they will all drink all their money away.
or maybe i am dreaming.
I'm sure AA will welcome all these 20-30-40 year olds when they turn 50 and realize that they don't have anything in their lives but a collection of empty bottles.
as for me - I'll stick to bars on MY side of Georgia avenue.
LNS is another excellent reason why socialist revolution is still relevant.
It would almost (but not quite) be worth the ensuing tyranny to see those types frog marched off to the labor camps.
"a vest and interest"
"my .2 cents"
Seriously?
Step 1: Take them off.
A very long time ago in a lifetime far far away, I used to do some part-time bartending in Georgetown.
What I read covers just about the whole scene in G-town & it hasn't changed for 40 years. A bunch of arrogant, cheap, hill-type, power-player-WANNA-BE's acting like jackasses & moving in step with the herd so they fit in (to a place where 'in' isn't anyplace I'd like to be). Hell, that's been the scene down there for as long as I can remember. The only difference I see now is that they go home & blog about it.
Oh, & I love the use of the word 'elite.' Please...
You're about as inner circle as a 7-11.
Silly boys talk a lot of bravado & bullshit.
Well, looks like they all just got a bit of a lesson in public disclosure.
On that note, Slander must be the telling of an "untruth." After reading the endless but hilarious dialogue here (& after having a front row seat to you people for a few amusing years), I can assure you that it was all true albeit probably a bit sensationalized.
Quite hilarious! Thanks for the very long cuckle.
Have some decency and please don't compare LNSers to stuck pigs. Afterall, the pigs at least have hearts and a degree of intelligence.
Post on, oh please post on. You make Angela Valdez's point again and again. Nothing is more vindicating than the protestations of the guilty. I am confident that you are all shocked, shocked to learn that there is gambling going on in your particular casino. Please, please keep posting.
Oh, and I can only imagine that anyone who was fired as a consequence of this article must have established a stunning foundation of prior to publication for such dismissal. So please quit your puling Sally Hemmings.
Let me add, that anyone who spends time teaching inner city children to play polo is either delusional, victim to a traumatic brain injury, the product of a union between siblings, or a combination of any of these. However, it is an absolute certainty that they are a Republican.
Anyway, post on you inbred, delusional, and sad, sad people.
Love
Addam, if you were truly happy to be you, you wouldn't need Angela to validate your superiority. Your confidence betrays a very, very insecure person. Confidence is sexy, assholes rarely are.
Pay attention to the facts of this case. The subjects waived privacy. The article may even be newsworthy (a valid defense to a false light claim, in case you didn't go to Torts class that day, Sally).
Regardless, unless you are a practicing attorney or at least a 3rd-year law student, don't post a legal memo here. It only makes you look stupid.
No.
Violent crime should be targeted at these douche bags. Dear scary southeast/southwest people. Go to Georgetown. Spare the tourists. Cleanse the streets of blue bloods.
I, for one, will welcome our new rap music creating overlords.
PS: Boat shoe folk and empty threats of violence don't mix. 20 Gauges and birdshot don't even kill. (http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/theboxotruth.htm) The 9mm and 7.62 that the average DC thug has... do
"There's something going down on the other side of town.
Smoke rising. City burning down - Mr. AK47
Now there's burning and looting all down the street.
Police fire warning nobody heeds - Mr. AK47
We're just one move closer to heaven. Got my AK47
The rich man won't take no blame and the poor man is just easy game.
And the next day you're out on the street, tossed out with the garbage.
Now you stand by the grave side, you look up to heaven.
There's a prophet with an AK47
There's blood on the hands, there's blood on the floor.
It runs down the hallway and out of the door
Into the street it joins a little more..."
Hopefully, "daddy" will teach them the lesson that at some point, everyone is held accountable for his or her own behavior.
It's sad actually that I had to be exposed to this because this is what I thought all of DC was like, which is why I moved. And I am much happier now, so I guess thanks Smith Point.
1) Nobody has sufficient grounds to win a lawsuit over this story.
2) Angela's editors are delighted with her piece and the huge reaction to it. She not only won't get fired, she'll probably get a raise.
3) Her story was funny as hell.
That's all.
LONG LIVE LATE NIGHT SHOTS!!!
YOUR FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sike
whut is wrong wi/ u?
I went to school up north in Maine with a lot of these types, some of which I am sure have migrated to DC and may even be on this website. The guys are typically boring, boorish, have gross feet and don't know how to dress. The girls are typically squat, with chunky legs (no doubt from years of playing field hockey/lacrosse) and squeaky voices. They also seem to enjoy ruining their perfectly pleated J.Crew dresses by wearing those plastic $10 flip-flops. Jackie O has rolled over in her grave at least twice, I'm sure.
Me? I'm not bitter or angry at these preppy types. Like I said...they're cute in their social exploits and air of exclusivity (they obviously have not been to the "home counties" in England!). I just find this group of DCers so fascinating for their ability to be so...asexually boring.
Keep up the good work! 'American Psycho: 21st Century' is in the works!
-B.E.E.
For those of you commenting about "Wow, I'm so glad I left DC" or "NYC is laughing at you all" ... save it. If you think a few hundred people on a website define a metropolitan area of several million, you are a moron.
And yes, we know....nothing is ever as good as NYC, NYC is awesome, I love NYC, no other city in the world has restaurants as good as NYC, no other city in the world can make pizza as good as NYC, no other city in the world has bagels as good as NYC, etc.
HAHAHAHAHA
We actually are just having a ball hating on you because you guys are
-ugly. The pudgy pigs say what? The shirtless pics revealed my suspicion of what happens to D list jocks 5 years out of college.
-stupid. too stupid to even realize you are stupid. "good but not ivy" was golden.
-think you're rich. minor league says what? Reed's dad is a lawyer, aka upper middle class service industry.
Ramsey says hello. HR has been working overtime.
Have some class, retain your dignity, and shut the fuck up. This is America. You can have money, you can be upper-class and swim in the 40% annual returns from your PE interests and buy $20,000 watches, and make a living off of watching your parent's money grow.
You sirs and madams, have no class, and inflate your measly egos with your self declared wealth. Listening to you tools talk about wealth and status is like listening to a 300 lbs bertha talk about beauty and grace. Why don't you go wear your ferrari driving shoes around too? The comments on this page have only revealed you LNS folk to be the clowns you are.
wait a second I'm not in fucking high school anymore and neither are most of you...
"Fletcher Reede: Your Honor, I object!
Judge Stevens: Why?
Fletcher Reede: Because it's devastating to my case!"
Suck it up douches, you got got.
courtesy of Phat Phree:
www.thephatphree.com/features.asp?StoryID=239&SectionID=11
The problem I have with this article is how people are so quick to jump on the folks that have their "exclusive" set. Doesn't every area of DC - at least bars - have a favored patronage?
About 5 years ago I got denied from 18th St Lounge because I was wearing Timberland's - they were too ghetto. Apparently the dreads on the guy who told me "no" at the front door excluded him from this title.
I rode my bike that had several gears to Dan's Cafe and I got ridiculed for having too nice of a ride.
I lost the keys to the Ferrari one night and wasn't allowed into Mate.
I forgot to bring my boy Tyrone to H20 with me and I quickly got Hpnotiq spilled down my back.
The exhaust on my car couldn't fit a bowling ball so I didn't win the rice rocket award at Eye Bar.
Who gives a f*ck? Go where it's comfortable for you and have a good time with your friends. And don't forget to tip your bartender you cheap f*cks. You know who you are.
Thanks for the article, Angela. It was enlightening and, judging from the response here by self-proclaimed LNS members, entirely spot on! Do you people not realize that you're acting even more like Neanderthals here than how you were portrayed in the article? Impressive level of self-delusion and blindness.
Apparently some never do.
this should offend you whether you're a popped collared neo-con douche drinker who wishes you were snorting your blow in a Georgetown bathroom circa the Reagan era or a bleeding heart liberal puss-face like myself who wishes people would believe him when he claims "Oh yeah, me and Guy Picciotto go waaay back!"
If anyone asked me if i was on myspace i would probably follow up with a yes as it is true... If the follow up questions were about how many children I pick up on the site, or implied that I was a kid toucher... I probably would have replied with an answer along the lines of "What kind of question is that? Have you ever slept with a little boy? Do you do little boys? That's a ridiculous assumption."
All of this would most likely be translated into their article as "The one in the middle skipped the foreplay and asked me if I would be as excited as he would be, sexually, if offered a job as life guard at the school of the def and blind, and he was able to practice CPR on the children." I am not a petterass dude, and it's pretty irresponsible to assume all myspacers are child molesters. Taking quotes out of context is a means for spicing up her poor story... using the people's actual names was below unprofessional... Congrats Angela... good luck getting an interview from anyone else ever again you twisted and dishonest Stephen Glass wannabe.
Don't get me wrong, I cannot stand LNS and think that whole scene is disturbing in every way... they make me want to shower just being close to them. However I also feel they have become this absurdity on their own, and they don't need a journalist to expose how sleazy they are.
Angela went looking for a slam piece story, and got it by distorting the facts to her liking. She is no better than the people she wrote about. The Santorum poster boys who fuck their boat shoes and pour boxed wine into bottles for parties and the Kafka action figures lined up in their U street studio apartment brigade have cancelled eachother out with lameness and overall lack of class and tolerance.
The people she wrote about don't give DC a bad name, they give themselves a bad name, and the community that prides themselves on being happy that they were possibly ruined are speaking louder with a negative voice are in turn looking more pathetic than the LNS people. Congrats, you have offically made the City paper a joke to true journalists.
Your pal,
Hades
I appreciate YOU and YOUR ARTICLE!!! Keep "HANGIN TOUGH"!!!!
Angela, you may be bitter now, but someday we'll LOOK BACK AND LAUGH!!!!
Thanks for taking us with arms wide open, under the sunlight.
You showed us everything!
So, WHOA, LNS doesn't include seedy. underground punk-music weirdos into their social circle. So sue them. Can you blame them? Those two groups of people aren't going to get along. One has lucrative jobs in finance/law/lobbying, one writes for an underground rag with a readerbase slightly larger than the local high school's. One wears high-quality preppy clothes, one wears tight-emo/punk band t-shirts with "edgy" pseudo-intellectual glasses. one is conservative, one hugs trees.
let these two social groups exist on their own. who cares if LNS is elitist? they have every right to be. angela....look in the mirror. do you really think a group of attractive, wealthy, clean-cut prepsters would ever want anything to do with you?
EVERYTHING about you- and that whole generation of pseudo-intellectual/Dashboard Confessional 20-somethings- personal style and personality is meant to turn these types of people off, proclaiming to the world, "I'm full of angst, and I'm better than you trust-fund fucks just because I suck at life and I can exist without brooks brothers and summers in nantucket". why do you belittle them for excluding people like you from their social circle?
yes, they have great lives. why don't you work on improving yours instead of bringing them down with this unprofessional, Duke-lacrosse-case-Nifong-esque hack "journalism"?
These comments are a riot. Every person trying to defend LNS just proves the point of the article. But I have to ask every person that said names should have been changed, have you ever actually read a newspaper? I don't mean the front page of the business section. I'm talking a real feature story (which, by the way, this is). Have you EVER seen an article where the write said, "Names changed to protect people's reputation"? No! If you speak to a reporter and you give them your name, OF COURSE they're going to use it. It would be unprofessional not to! Blows my mind that people know so little about journalism. (I have an M.A. in it, just so we're clear.) Oh, and you don't have a libel case. Not even close. If you put your real name on a site where people write the things these LNSers write, you get what you deserve.
Kudos, Angela. And keep up the good work!
From what you wrote ("And the fact that she pretended to have a good time with all those jokers and made them let their guard down is brilliant too! I call it good journalism") you are applauding her for getting these people to feel comfortable around her so they "let their guard down" and she was able to use this to her advantage...
Isn't that behavior is strikingly similar to the behavior and mantra of a date rapist... the kind of people she was trying to expose. Date rapists use alcohol to help their prey let their guard down to get what they want... she relied on alcohol to get the story she wanted.... Think about what you're saying before you type it.
However she did not expose them, she asked racy questions and was given racy responses.. then she took those answers and distorted them to make them her own answers. And as for the evidence that you need about the releases or waivers that said their names could be used have not been produced after a dozen attempts to have the editor produce these. ON TOP OF THAT, she says her self that she found out their names on her own and who they were by going on a private website and taking that privledged information.
Beyond that, I happen to know that there were numerous attempts from these people and their attornies to prevent their names from appearing in the article... which should have been repected as they have the right to according to The Washington City Paper's privacy policy which you can read on this very website.
And i must reiterate that I am not a member of LNS, I never was, and laugh at the idea of it... I think most of the people I have met that are members are total losers... I would not associate myself with neo con date rapists she claims to have met. However, I do feel the need to call her out on this as one of my friends was named after many attempts to excercise his rights in the paper's privacy policy, as he was made aware through the grapevine that he was being misquoted. So to answer "What's wrong, is one of your friends involved in this article and you feel the need to defend him?" yes... would you stand up for one of your friends that may have been taken advantage of?
As for this one "Why dont you back up some of your own statements with facts?"
The real hard evidence that I am not full able to provide to you on this message board will surely see the light of day in the courts, for Angela's careless actions.
So think about what you said was "the most brilliant part about it" and how that really looks from a totla bystanders perspective... I had no idea that being able to take advantage of people by abusing the level of trust given to you was something that can be considered brilliant...
Then I want you to ask yourself
"What was so unethical about this article?" You don't need any hard evidence to figure that one out Sherlock
These comments posted here are truly cast light on—in fact, defines the soul-less, narrow-minded ideologies that exist in this insular bubble of a "city." I can't wait to move to some place more progressive...NY here I come!
These people and their attornies should have their privacy repected!!
I think the individuals were wronged but not the Jerry Fallwell and Cheney lovechild that the LNS organization (as a whole)can be considered.
Also thanks for trying to get me to post my email address for everyone to view... go ahead and send it to drcrentist@gmail.com I'll set up a spam account just for you!
Please leave our beloved neighborhood dive bar, The Wonderland Ballroom, out of this. I'm sure your impression of it being Hipster Headquarters is only due to the fact that this is the crowd you see in the opposite uniform on the weekends, when you collectively overcrowd our bar. Come to the Wonderland on any weekday evening and you will see people in suits, just as easily as you will see them in ironic t-shirts. You will meet families with their children at Baby Happy Hour, Republicans, PhDs and artists. We live in Columbia Heights, because we defy uniforms; enjoying the social, economic, political, racial, sexual, gender and age diversity instead. We may be frustrated that you take our space at the bar on the weekends, but you are all welcome too, whether you're paying with Daddy's credit card or with hard earned money, whether you came in taxis or via the metro. It is you, Preppie and Hipster alike, that allow us to enjoy spending time with our neighbors all week long. Of course feel free to wear your uniforms, at least you need not live in fear of cross-breeding.
Plus, they better make sure that their LNS records are spotless. All of their posts will be brought into court as a matter of record. All of their past behaviour at "charitable events" will be put under the spotlight.
Angela may not be a trust-fund baby, but she has the resources of her newspaper to back her up.
The fact of the matter is, they are all idiots with far too much money, too great a sense of "privilege", and too little sense. Some brains would also help. I can only hope that this entire experience has been a wake-up call.
"At the end of the day, they hate because they are jealous. Jealous of our priviledge, jealous of our economic success, jealous of our fun."
What's to be jealous of, hon? You folks not only look down on everyone else, you treat each _other_ like crap. If you have any worthwhile goals, you are certainly keeping them a secret--from the sound of this, all you care about is fattening your bank accounts and spawing children as ignorant and useless as you. Are you about anything besides using people and staying safe in your bubble? People don't envy you--they are appalled that you think you are entitled to run the world and trample on anyone else. It's a shame Valdez can't do a 20-years-later followup to see you all get the reality check you will richly deserve. Then again...:)
If you do not have the specifics on the article and what she asked then you probably shouldn't assume. I never said what she did violated the law... but I do know that it is a clear violation of this http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/citypaper/privacypolicy/ especially since I was there when lawyers were contacted, when the lawyers contact the paper, and the interviewees asked Angela and the editors to repect their right to excercise the privacy policy. I am not a lawyer, and do not know if the law was broker... BUT the integrity behind this "Op'd piece" and the moral dilemma it created is something that should be exposed as well.
I can't stress it enough, that I think the premise of the article is great but peoples privacy was violated.
She did identify herself as a reporter, and yes I agree that some vulgar words were said... The basic point you are making is somewhat right, but your rational behind it is wrong... How do you think she convinced people to what you call "letting their guard down" ? My guess, as well as any rational person would think is that she gained their trust by opening the forum up as a place where vulgarities are welcome... probably by asking vulgar or insulting questions. Think about it hoss. I know you have to watch what you say around reporters... but you as a reader should also think about how a story is presented. She wanted it to look that way... it's a slight of hand. She will show you all this dirt by holding it over her head, but if you look at the other hand you will notice she pockets what you (at least astute readers) are looking for (that being what she originally presented). She did not have a notepad with her, and all of her questions were presented in a friendly manner, to a bunch of people who have been drinking.
I understand that. But read the privacy policy... Are you saying that they do not have the right to excercise that policy? I know that there were no releases or waivers and probably no need for them, but they did request to be ommitted which is their right according to the paper's policy...
That's awesome about the Mr. Mister, would have been so much sweeter if they played Kyrie... Do you have a link for that story? That is hillarious, what I would pay to see any one cover Mr. Mister. The only thing that would have been sweeter is if they played a cover of Disturbed's cover of Tears for Fears shout... And tried to save face.
I am well aware of stories like that as I am a local musician myself. I think the difference is that the band is on a public stage and are subject to the public eye and scrutiny by stepping on stage... But these guys were just having drinks in a bar. Once again I don't know the legalities of it, I am questioning the integrity of it. And the deceitful journalistic measures used to get these stories and use this public platform to attack someone who snapped back at the reporter for her prejudment.
Hands Down, The BEST post on the Board. Way to get to the heart of the matter. It makes us all want to CRY...........
VOTE!!
So with this story, while I have little sympathy for those quoted, I have no faith in her ability to be truthful and credible. Sad. City Paper should dump her. Reporters who go into stories with their minds made up have no standing.
The best part is, no, I am not kidding you. I googled her name and this article came up. I'm going to wait until she's a little more famous before I sell those naked pictures I took of her on ebay BAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA suck it, slut.
HA those made me laugh. Most of the kids who go to Ivy-league schools these days are underprivileged, anti-social nerds. Poor, smart kids. I don't have anything against that, but don't try and claim that it is any different. Anyone who has ever even walked around these schools know this. Most of my extended family went to one or two particularly well known Ivy-league schools for generations including two of my siblings; I do know what I am talking about. The type of wealthy, socially well-connected person who attended Harvard and Yale up to the 50s and 60s no longer does so. They now go to places like Georgetown, Vanderbilt, UVA and USC.
I will most likely never check this page again, so call me a snob, I don't really care. Anonymous insults tend not to sting. Everything I said is true, and it does pertain to this article.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/generation-chickenhawk-t_b_56676.html
This is article is going to my friends in the military. Of course, they are turbos because they wear disgusting and horrifying clothes like tan combat boots and wrinkly ACU fatigues instead of the faggy boat shoes and short shorts y'all wear.
I really don't understand it. Pale, beer bellied, faggy clothes wearing unaccomplished shit heads making fun of other people? Foot meet mouth.
Shutting up helps your cause in this case LNSers because it's the only thing you can do to spare yourself the embarassment...oh wait, too late.
First of all this is most certainly not a racial issue. As a black female the last thought on my mind was look at those crazy white folks.
Steven, since when is frequenting the 9:30 Club and Black Cat a sign of edginess? Get over yourself. If someone uses the words "elitist, sexist and crass' in the club's defense to outside judgement how far off can the article really be?
Also, you can dislike someone without jealousy being the source of your disdain. I doubt that most logical people are writing off the whole LNS crowd because of a few idiots just as I wouldn't write off a hipster because they bring their laptos to Tryst. This article is just proof that these idiots do exist and that this may be the kind of crowd that nurtures that kind of behavior. I'm sure there are some wonderful people in the group who don't judge you becuase you don't wear the latest fashions or aren't a size 2 but it doesn't change the fact that a nice chunk of this crowd probably does.
If she flat out lied then start the lawsuits.
Since when are these kids the "elite" of D.C? If they left Georgetown, they probably couldn't even get in at most other clubs. Maybe if they paid like, thirty bucks. That's why it was so funny.
Oh, and these kids are fugly. I saw some of the pics and am not impressed. Looks like overcompensation to me.
P.S. Who starts a effin Web site to talk about what you did the night before? Get a life, losers. Everyone is laughing at you.
In fact, on a boring night, I suggest people go to Georgetown to laugh at these "elite", "rich" (ha! since when is a thou a year rich?), and "good-looking" wannabes. Go back to the mid-west, bitches.
Sue for libel. (Note: This usually works better if actual libel occurs.)
Deny. (Say it ain't true and say you're not going to dignify such obvious lies.)
Say you were misquoted. (Repeatedly! She had no notepad afterall.)
Blame your political opponents. (Hipsters made me behave like a raging asshole!)
Minimize. (So what's wrong with a little fun? You'd do it too if you were rich and good looking, even though we're not all good looking or apparently rich.)
Call the reporter ugly? (You came up with this one, which is novel, but I'm confused)
This last sounds difficult,I know, but stick with me.
Apologize. Say the reporter got it exactly right and that you're ashamed. Ashamed of your behavior. Ashamed of your responses. Ashamed of trying to intimidate. Ashamed of trying to obfuscate. Ashamed of taking your blessings for granted. Ashamed of assuming your blessings makes you any better than any other human being. Ashamed for not using more of your energy to help the world. And then thank Angela for doing the difficult but needed job of helping you see the light.
There, that wasn't so bad, was it?
I'm glad you're able to read the privacy policy... unfortunately it appears that the collection of words across that page are not registering with you... the whole part about consent. The paper was told numerous times that they did not have consent, yet they did it anyway.
I don't feel the need to quote it or copy and paste it as I can hope that the DC audience of readers is much more responsible that the writers and editors that would abuse this policy.
It's funny that you are calling me an apologist as apologists are often considered deceptive or one-sided in their arguments. Comparing me to and apologetic or any faction of any organized religion for that matter is really funny, thanks. As I have stated before, I find the article entertaining, as I think the LNS crowd is hillarious and has been basking in their own absurdity for a while now... and the idea that these people idolize such "greats" as Thurmond, Lott, Santorum, Reagan, and probably Nixon baffles me. If I knew that Late Night Shots was official DC code for small penis insecurity club, or lower inhibitions is better than low self esteem club for women... I would hang in gtown more often, because people watching is much cheaper than a show at the DC improv.
I can see both sides of the argument... even in this one-sided piece. It's a shame that you aren't able to look at it in the same light. This article should offend the Reagan Era wannabes who use their neo-con Herpes wands as a means to spread their seed, just as much as it should insult the Elliot Smith inspired disconnected "did you know Gore won the popular vote?" scene that is only reading this paper because there aren't any Gus Van Sant or Peter O'Toole movies playing at the independant theaters near them.... and that is because it is feeding the audiences the antithesis of the one sided neo-con reporting you might see on Fox news.
This whole comment board is hillarious, The article is hillarious. But the practices of the paper were not carried out in a professional level, and when reached for comment on this... neither the writer or the editor cared to comment on the validity of these quotes; which to me seems like they might be cautious because of legal actions... or they know that what was quoted was wrong.
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The Privacy Policy outlined on the link you posted is clearly in reference to a person's activity on the City Paper website. They will not post any personal information about you- like the email address you use when posting comments such as these- without your consent. From reading it, it seems that this policy does not apply to what the City Paper's journalists do in the field, only what the people who run the City Paper website can and can't publish of the information shared on their site. For example: "On certain pages, if you choose to register for a contest, newsletter, message board, or some other purpose, we may ask for personal information such as street and/or e-mail address, phone number, consumer preferences, etc. Unless we specifically say so on the registration or data-entry form, we do not and will not release any such information to third parties..."
I think you may want to read that more clearly. It seems to me that you have misinterpreted the entire policy.
If that is addressing only the website or better yet only specific section of the website, it is pretty misleading.
You may be right... but this should not excuse the narrowminded and deceitful practices that were used to get people to say things that were grossly taken out of context. I would have still loved the story if she had left all the quotes in... I think it is a beautiful blend of naivity, stupidity, and pride to think that some one would actually try and pick up on women by statring things off with an anal sex proposition. That is hillarious... it really makes her appear less credible.
On top of that if you take a look at the fourth paragraph of this very papers new story you will see this “There is negative energy in the office,” says one Post staffer who declined to be identified.
Now why would the paper protect the identity of this person who did not want to be identified, but not the identity of these other people who were in turn grossly misquoted?
I am am not going to rag on you for the grammar or anythnig, as mine is not perfect. But I once again must reiterate that I am not defending these people. If you read all of my posts you can probably see the equal distaste I have for LNS users as well as people like yourself, who are so bent on swimming in the pig shit this articles stirred up, that you are forgetting the simple morals behind it.
Watch and enjoy:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DTw2UH3up2o
These LNS losers did not commit a crime... last time i checked being a douchebag is not even a misdemenor. The only thing they did is live a lifestyle the writer does not agree with. That's cool... she has her right to that opinion, and i think it's great she wrote a humorous article about it. But damaging the individuals reputation is not cool at all.
I don't know the legalities i admit that... I will even stretch it to say that maybe their privacy policy only applies to the message board. When I asked the writer about the vlidity of these quotes, which FYI were recordered without a pen and paper or voice recorder during the interviews (mental notes do not always fly), she will be quick to respond that she cannot discuss that... this looks like cowardice once again.
And of course they have the right to have their name ommitted... they did not commit a crime, they are not a public figurehead, and they did not go on a public platform to announce these quotes. Why do you think on the news you see people's faces blurred or giving interviews from the shadows with a voice scrambler.... these people were violated by a narrowminded journalist. You're statements sound so absolute that she did not distort what was said at all...
they shouldnt suffer repercussions because they havent committed a crime? cheating on your spouse isnt a "crime". being a racist, homophobic, sexist PIG isnt always a crime. stop waiting for the law to tell you that your behavior is or isnt ok.
uch, youre being a dope.
and whats my name? WHATS MY NAME?
thats right, its "Shut the Fuck Up".
What They may or may not have said appears, sure not a crime, but disgusting... but they do have the right to be cowards... much like how Rumy, Ashcroft, and a couple other of their role models act.
As much as I hate seeing it... Klans men wear hoods... because they are cowards, but they have that right. I can assure you the LNS people would have no problem being considered cowards, as opposed to the alternative which is having their names published.
Seriously... you have to at least consider the possiblity that the scenario (may not have, but) could have went like this
Angela: "So being a member of LNS, can you tell me the benefits of feeling like you are better than everyone or being a date rapist?"
John Tabacco: "What? What kind of question is that? You think I am a date rapist? you come into a bar while I am obviously intoxicate and ask me stuff like that? Is that even legal? That's poor reporting... Do I ask you about your sex life? Do you do anal? Are you into anal?"
Is it a strecth... maybe... are you going to simply believe what you want about it, of course, and that's what the problem is.
I never get tired of this either: http://youtube.com/watch?v=DTw2UH3up2o
So easily taken out of context... also, Mr. "Shut the Fuck Up" if you are going to address the issue of racism, you probably shouldn't start off with "Cracka said what!?"
All else aside, the commenters who've defended LNS members have stumbled badly in their arguments. The comments are just plain dumb. But one question is reasonable enough to ask:
Why added value do readers get by having the people named? Regardless of the answer, I believe the City Paper and Ms Valdez can choose whether or not to publish names as long as consents were signed. But it still begs the question, why do the readers and the City Paper get out of publishing real names for this specific article?
Concerned Linguist, please accept my apologies for forcing you to suffer my typos in a comment thread on the City Paper's web site. That ain't right. I'll be more considerate in the future.
thats, RIGHT:
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
thats right!
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
Congrats bro, I give up... there is obviously no way for you to change your interpretation or mine in regards to the privacy policy... We both have different views, great! I'm fine with a stalemate in that sense... or if you want me to say you win fine. I don't give a shit.
But privacy policy, waivers, releases, what the fuck ever aside... since Anon is obviously wording it better than me: was it neccesary for these individuals to suffer? Whether they were sincere with the comments, or (which should be obvious) misquoted or taken out of context... do they really deserve to have their names and reputations blasted when they asked numerous times to NOT have their name appear?
I think the over all story was enough to make anyone associated with LNS feel like an ass... good story. But adding their names just seems sadistic and malicious. And the people that are defending her for doing this are enjoying the fact that these people are kicked while down that they should join in and applaud her for it. And some of these people that were misquoted hit the ground courtesy of a ridiculous cheapshot courtesy of the City Paper.
Would you at least agree with that?
Nobody accused the interviewees of a crime, and certainly not the article (if she had, then it really would be libel). Instead, all she did was quote people who were rude to her in an interview and make them look like jerks. That's within her power and please don't pretend that you would do any different if you were in the same position.
When you're speaking to a reporter it really is no different than posting comments or pictures of yourself on the internet, UNLESS you specifically request anonymity (people who have their faces blurred out in interviews are people ask not to be named... usually for better reasons than that they planned on making crude comments to the interviewer). And just like on the internet, if you're worried about the kind of impression your pictures are going to make on people/employers, even if the one of you pouring beer down some girl's shirt while flipping the bird totally makes sense in context, DON'T POST IT. You don't get to sue facebook or myspace because you made yourself look like an ass online, and you don't get to sue newspapers because you made yourself look like an ass in front of a reporter, context or no context. End of story.
Finally, as far as their reputations go, like you said they are not public figures and the didn't commit any crime so as far as I can tell the only damage done is that she made them look like dickheads. If you don't want people to think you're a dickhead then don't act like a dickhead, even if you're drunk you think you're being funny, and especially not in front of reporters.
Don't let the tears ruin your $200 sweaters tied around your neck.
PS Crentist: the joke, it is you. Quit making my city awful. You are a failure.
You don't matter.
Get over yourselves.
Love,
New York, Chicago, London, Tokyo, and the rest of the cities with actual power.
P.s.: The comment by MGR on Jul. 12, 2007, at 2:29 pm literally brought me to tears of laughter.
You are a douchebag. Itr's okay to admit that your city (if it is NYC) is a hellhole or that you wish you lived in the US (if it is London or Tokyo). England? Oh right, they used to rule the world before we did.
And.... Chicago, a city with more power than DC? Stop...now, you are embarrassing yourself with such ignorance.
Sincerely,
Duke Zeibert
1.) "My ancestors came over on the Mayflower"
Well whoopdee-doo! Unless "the Mayflower" can be taken to refer to the North American continent splintering from the giant landmass formerly known as Pangea (and it can't), then that makes you an immigrant. Sure, you might have been among the first of the immigrants, but for that matter, so were the African slaves and indentured servants. So get off your high horses.
And let's get another thing straight. It's not exactly like the Mayflower passengers were British gentry looking for a change of scenery or a new place to summer. They were were religious and societal pariahs looking for economic opportunity that was barred to them in the Old World. In other words, just like any other group of immigrants throughout American history.
2.) "We shoulder the tax-load"
Yep, you're right. You do pay a disproportionate amount of the country's tax revenue. It's a wonder your families can eat between feeding the rest of us and giving you spoiled brats "30k a year and car payments" (from Wonkette's "Last Week's Shots").
p.s. whats my name again?
thats right, SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
You HAVE NO CHOICE but to do white chicks...you may be rich and most guys with money can do whatever they want, but the buck surely stops with you two. You won't be doing it with any "privileged" or "broke" black women, first because you're TOO DARK and second, we actually want attractive offspring. Rich is relative, so remember there's ALWAYS someone with much more. Your parents would have to triple their worth before you could even get a hint of my vaginal sweetness.
To boot- you're probably a sympathy member. No one wants to be deemed racist, so they picked the blackest, ugliest dudes to make the wash look all nice and politically correct. Might white of LNS to do so. You're all a bunch of imature idiots. Please get past the High School antics...you still "hooking up ". You're grown, you can say "sex" now.
Here, let's settle it: LNSers are all douchebags.
Boom, we're done here. Now everyone can move on with their lives.
Extra douchebag points for anyone stupid enough to make further comments on this article.
oh - i forgot to introduce myself. thats right --
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
Personally, I think the SP crowd is fabulous! Amazing, successful, nice people with of course a few exceptions... such as our friend above "Note to LNSers" who under pressure showed his true character. We all know there are exceptions in every group.
A special note to the super privileged commentaries above: You are truly fortunate to have what you have and I am happy for you (not jealous). But, you are truly delusional if you do not believe that your life's causes will not come back to you in some way. Karma is just one of those universal laws you cannot run from be you rich or poor. You know this...I just needed to remind you.
With that said, Angela...publishing people's names? Was not a wise decision.
Angela it is one thing to write the article, but it is another to use real peoples names. You might not like the people you met, but you don't go out and destroy them by publishing their real names.
oh wait...that might be someone callin' my name:
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
Idea of universal justice and Karma, like most things in religion, are nice convinient fantasies the poor masses use to sedate their own misery... after a lifetime of suffering and toiling, you will "find your reward in heaven".
Fuck that.
LNS folk are douchebags, they've proved it again and again, but in the end, they don't matter. If you are really that pissed about them, just go meet them and beat that tubby asses in Georgetown. Run away before their daddys show up and start suing you, hahaha, or better yet, just do a GTA style drive by of their favorite bars.
By the way, in case you missed it...
http://whyihatedc.blogspot.com/2006/06/this-is-mean-for-sake-of-meanness.html
I LOLed... a bunch of clowns.
When you are fucking stupid enough to ask some chick you just met if she likes it in the ass, you deserve to have your name plastered nation-wide.
John Tobacco--you got yourself fucked alright--in the ass with NO LUUBE...ouchie waaa waaaa
They are ever so amusing and arguably the funniest responses I have ever read to an online article.
This piece of shit John Tobacco should have his tongue nailed to the floor for what he said to a lady who was respectfully and in good humor asking straight-ahead questions for a newspaper feature.
What a trash-talking bully. If I was editor of the city paper, I'd track down that piece of shit, tear out his fucking eyes and skull fuck him to the death for being so sick and cruel to a reporter working nights for god's sake while he stands around enjoying his trust fund. "Oh, hey, John-John, you do fucking skull? Yeah, you take it in the skull, asshole?"
Better yet, take that piece of shit John-John to E. Baltimore and have gangs of 100s of guys he'd never otherwise have the chance to meet show him how to press some ham. (Hint: you push the asshole's head into the door jam of a big fucking Buick and slam the door again and again until it changes shape a couple of times) and pull a fucking 24-hour train on his skull and his ass.
We'll remember you, asshole, and find a way to pay you the fuck back.
You are obviously a angry person, but talk, and angry talk especially is cheap on the internet. I hope you aren't a skinny, nerdy, mac loving, steve jobs worshiping, olivia munn masturbating nerd like me, and will actually follow through on your threats.
In other news, it is easy as pie to buy a deer hunting rifle in Virginia and Maryland, and it is nearly just as easy to buy a silencer. For those in the know, deer hunting calibers are overkill for human beings (.308 is already overkill) so despite these guns being easier to acquire than condoms, you won't be missing any firepower. If you aren't a man to withstand the body shaking shock waves of Winchester 300 magnum or 338 Lapua, simply establish a trust (use a online form generator if you are too poor for a lawyer), pass a 6 month ATF background check, and buy yourself a silencer using this completely abstract legal entity.
Silencer reviews at http://www.silencertests.com.
With just a few days of serious instruction you will be able to cowardly go about your class warfare. Gangstas don't need no deer rifles or silencers, they get the job done with ugly $100 9mms of the street... Kalashnikov and Hipoint are the official sponsors of the class war.
I love how maryland makes buying 20+ round magazines illegal, but makes buying silencers and machineguns easy as pie.
This is all just talk. I'm going back to playing Halo 2 on X-Box live and wanking to Sasha Grey, have a great weekend!
-DC nerd.
Comment: By: possumfest Jul. 12, 2007, at 7:33 pm
The reality of your hipster lifestyle is that most of you will live poor lives in cramped basements, have unattractive wives/husbands/partners, bitch about Republicans while benefiting from the tax burden we shoulder, and in general, not be able to experience much at all because you are very unsuccessful professionally and personally. We are better athletes, smarter in business, more attractive, tougher, and, in general, winners of the genetic lottery. Angela Valdez was treated well by almost everyone she encountered until she wrote this hyper-sexualized caricature of the 20-something Georgetown set. She is a known embellisher and clearly a loser in her personal life. Everyone who supports her on this thread is intellectually dishonest and probably a loser as well. Have fun being poor and insignificant, hipsters.
Umm Nazi Germany, anyone?? Um, eww. And have fun looking up random authors on MySPace, stalkers...
I may live in DC, but Mister Zelbert don't bash any of these cities for being MUCH MORE FUN THAN DC. BTW, CHicago kicks DC's ass for fun OR finance...
Dear Washington D.C.,
You don't matter.
Get over yourselves.
Love,
New York, Chicago, London, Tokyo, and the rest of the cities with actual power.
P.s.: The comment by MGR on Jul. 12, 2007, at 2:29 pm literally brought me to tears of laughter.
Comment: By: Duke Zeibert Jul. 20, 2007, at 9:03 am
Dear Perspective:
You are a douchebag. Itr's okay to admit that your city (if it is NYC) is a hellhole or that you wish you lived in the US (if it is London or Tokyo). England? Oh right, they used to rule the world before we did.
And.... Chicago, a city with more power than DC? Stop...now, you are embarrassing yourself with such ignorance.
Sincerely,
Duke Zeibert
Please get fucking cancer and die in the fucking dark alone, you worthless piece of LNS shit.
I will still with the fucking Buick. No fucking registration. No fucking insurance. No new costs of deployment.
LNS is a fucking breeding ground for the next generation of neocon monsters. No one with a sense of justice would give these freaks the mercy of a powerful weapon to take them out.
Best to just squeeze their heads into the door jam of a big Buick and drag them slowly to their just ends.
And to all the LNS assholes that are having little fantasies about suing the newspaper, (oooo, Dada is a lawyer, he will make them PAY!) you are completely fucked. Even if Valdez fabricated quotes from whole cloth, you would still be left with a tough row to hoe to actually establish libel.
The fact is you people are twisted freaks who expect that they can act like assholes and checks still come in the mail from mama and dada. Maybe because that's all your lives are about. Unfortunately, acting like twits in front of a reporter does not entitle you to sue the paper. Sorry, assholes, being an asshole is not going to be a source of a new income no matter what experience has acclimated you to expect.
LNS, your guys are effeminate drones without the will or tools to become real men - and your women are sad excuses for human beings just waiting for the right guy to corner into marriage. I had one of the latter and was shocked that she didn't understand why I pulled her ankles onto my shoulders. For Christ's sake, what are you teaching these bitches? (She finally got it.)
You are angry yes, but apparently you also stupid. I wasn't being sarcastic or lying when I said i'm a nerd with no life. I mean, why else would I tell you how to actually do something instead of being anonymous internet trash talking cockbag? I'll work on the cancer thing and take up smoking for you though.
As much as I hate LNS for being assholes, I hate dumb angry poor people who do nothing productive with their lives. The greatest revenge you can exact on LNS is not hitting them with a peice of shit buick, but instead, educating yourself and elevating yourself above them. Sigh. Since that won't happen, yeah, you might as well just buy that buick from a mexican and "Carmageddon" through Georgetown.
I mean sack up all ready! If you're gonna be a date rapeing, boat shoe wearing, coke snorting, silver spoon, facist, fuck wit then be that.
Own it.....OWN IT.
Try growing a pair your daddy didn't buy you.
At the end of the day, you shouldn't nessisarily feel bad about your life style of choice. Bankrupt as it may be, this world dose need more over educated, under inspired white people to fill the gap soon to be left by their parents when they retire to the Hamptons.
Honestly where would J Crew and Fox News be with out you assholes. Not to mention all the shrinks who would be out of work if not for the decades long history of pissing on those who are your lessers and the mental issues that come from fucking a drunk girl while shes passed out, then bragging about it online
See, you serve a function.
Old money/new money/Southern gentlemen and ladies/Ivy league bullshit.
Even if people portrayed in the article aren't 100% like this, I'm sure that there's someone out there that is.
It's a pity that people are actually like that.
isn't worth wasting my coke on!
To bad they will go through life trying to drown out the voices in their heads with shot after shot, to one day except that their own voices are in running in the snot-nose punks they brought into this world, wasting all the ill gotten gains generation after generation after generation....
Oh well, we all need a Paris to point our fingers at, even if she is wearing a Brooks Brothers blazer.... I'll bang mine while they're on top, no passouts puleaze...
As for me, I will happily continue the hunt on more distant frontiers of my genetic and/or social class and leave these WASPy wannabees to the "Late Night Shots" playas.
The LNS guys really are frightened children, superannuated frat boys with infantile penises and zero sack stamina.
I stopped going after the holidays when I realized the guy I ended up with one night practically shouted "I did it" when he got off after 10 strokes.
Then, get this, when I tried to sit on his face so I'd get off, he whined he doesn't "do that."
Do what? Physically communicate with women? Not LNS guys.
I love it!
All the LNS guys throw me over a trash can behind whatever bar we've trashed on a given night and they ream my asshole until it's bloody, dozens of them at a time.
It makes me feel like man!
Almost as much as using curse words around a girl!
Love,
John
HARDER!
Everyone is fucking me in the ass now!
I'm a real man!
Is there anything left of his ass because me and my friends wants some of it, too.
.
Fuck my ass! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Make me bleed, LNS comrades!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Assholes.
Die.
How's it feel to have the entire planet know what a cocksucking piece of shit you are?
Anal?
If you got laid in a morgue, it would be rape.
Asshole.
.
These guys sound like complete assholes.
You lost a great opportunity. There was no originality or complex thought in the article from you. You started out with lofty goals and instead fell flat. The quality of the article is what I would expect from a high-schooler. In short, I was left feeling "So what"?
objective
well-written
journalism
privacy
"stole"
un-truth
first amendment
burden of proof
and my personal favorites:
not knowing the difference between libel and slander
DIE!
WHAT?
None of you?
Wow, I thought you had iron-clad cases that someone acting like a twisted fuckwit in public can't be reported to be acting like a twisted fuckwit in public. Because then it's libel or slander or something and your daddy will take them to court and put the paper out of business forever. Yeah! Valdez will be cleaning your toilets with her tongue for the rest of her life! Yeah! Everyone will pay for crimes against the gods who walk the earth at the LNS.
You cocksuckers!
You pieces of shit!
There isn't anything anyone can say that can libel because you are the world's slimiest, most spoiled, most over-indulged, stupidest, most racist and most self-pitying mob of whining wastes of life ever imagined.
FUCKING DIE !
.
Some of the comments made by the LNSers on this sight are the exact reason why this group should be exposed. Telling people that there opnion isn't valid or that they should be jealous just because there rich and "succesful". Let's face it. Your succesful because your parents could afford to send you to private schools, and got you your first jobs, etc. Look, if you guys are content with living your lives shuttled between a few small bars in a small neighborhood in DC and the country club/ summer vacation spot, that's 100% fine with me. Just don't think us non-LNSers are jealous of you in ANY WAY! I mean c'mon, you think Adams Morgan is ghetto? That's not being elitist- that's being a PUSSY!
What surprises me is that you guys actaully get girls! I guess it goes to show how materialized and self-conscious the US Weekly/People magazine women's culture has made the young women in our country today. The reality is, the majority of you guys (atleast the ones I see parading around gtown) look like complete clowns. You think the clothes make you look classy?!! HA. Wear those anywhere outside of georgetown/any sheltered suburb/cape cop/nantuket and you guys will get laughed at. Boat shoes are hideous. Let me say that again, boat shoes are hideous.
Me, I'm just a middle-class nobody from Brooklyn, whose had to face real life situations on my own, and prides himself on being hard working, courteous and intelligent. My comments should not matter to you.
So heres my advice: stay trapped in your little bubble- it's best for both of us.
The only sad thing is the number of low-IQ sorority sluts with fake blonde hair that will eat their sperm every night. Those girls live on vodka and semen. And that is just sad. Someone ough to a piss in their drinks once in awhile just so they get the vitamins. But they do make good decorations for the front office.
Anyway, nice job Angela. Sometimes the best things in life really are free!
July 16, 2007: LateNightShots
A Disturbing Look at the Republican Party's Next Generation
by Jessica Vozel, North Star Writers
In the ass!
The little preppies sound like they got their feelings hurt...
lol...
The only thing money gives you is exclusivity. It's a good thing you have it, too, because until you grow up and realize that you have something better to talk about than who's fucking who and where you're getting drunk that night, you're all just regular people in expensive clothes.
Turds wrapped in bacon are still gonna taste like turds.
I haven’t laughed at a particular brand of east coasters this much on a random Thursday morning for a while. I should have read this article sooner. A friend who’s currently trapped in DC (or “The Wrong Washington,” as I like to call it) alerted me to the existence of LNS a couple weeks ago. I thought she was kidding...or at least exaggerating. I was both horrified and strangely amused to discover she wasn’t.
A lot of things about LNS are amusing, but let’s start by hitting them where they live – money. Ever noticed how those who talk about money the most don’t have nearly as much of it as they’d like you to believe? I first witnessed this in college during my Greek system days...and before I get jumped on as a hipster, west coaster, liberal/jealous/ugly/poor/unpopular in high school
whatever...I enjoyed being in a sorority, for the same reasons I enjoyed cheerleading, it was fun. My intent is not to slam kids who join clubs in order to go to more parties or to stand around and clap and make t-shirts, I have no beef with that, my beef is with the “rich kid” identity so many seem eager to perpetuate in these environments. When you’re 18, 19, maybe you don’t know
better, but reasonable people outgrow this. When you join a sorority/fraternity/secret order of the dickheads or what have you, you need to find a new identity. You can’t be the “rich kid.” Come on, in certain circles everyone’s got money, many of them have more of it than you, and I bet
those of them with the most cash are not bragging about it. Why? Because who cares? Some of the richest people in the world can tick off item after item that head up their list of priorities over and above wealth. It’s always that climber, that kid who wants to be the richest, and isn’t, who’s so eager to tell you how important money is and to give an exaggerated detail of how
much of it he’s got. It’s pitiful. So, for you insipid, east-coasty, Sperry top-sider wearing pseudo-elites (and I need to echo an earlier sentiment...you should definitely NOT wear top-siders when you’re not on a boat), I’d like to point something out: it’s time to be concerned with something other than money, you’re not that rich. And if you’re not willing to focus on something other than money for altruistic reasons, at least focus on something else to avoid further embarrassment. In attempting to shame and exclude social climbers, you’ve exposed yourselves as the climbers you are. Sorry to be snarky (not really, I’m rarely actually sorry) but you warranted it.
For those still only interested in cold hard Georgetown cash, consider this: of the richest people in America, only seven people east of the Rockies even crack the top twenty. And five of them are Wal-Mart money living in, I believe, Arkansas, I guess that’s as far east as big money reaches. Where do the rest of the top twenty live? Washington State and California. Now I’m sure your “new-money”/”old-money” argument will kick in, but the bottom line is that Bill Gates (who actually comes from a very well-established Seattle family), Warren Buffett (who sold his Laguna Beach home for millions, gave that money away, and now lives in Omaha in a relatively modest $700,000 house) and Paul Allen (another reasonably unpretentious northwesterner) have a lot more money than you’ll ever have, are in no real danger of losing it any time soon (unless, of course, they give it to charity), and give billions of it away. So if you’re going to aspire to be rich and powerful, would you at least please emulate these wealthy and philanthropic west coasters who seem to have figured out at least a bit more about what matters. These people seem far less hell bent on making public asses of themselves than LNSers appear to be. By the way, Gates doesn’t even live in the most expensive home on Lake Washington, which isn’t saying that much since it’s one of the wealthier neighborhoods in the United States, but still, it’s something.
Embrace the west coast way of life and chill the fuck out. (I’m clearly excluding Los Angeles, no offense, I don’t hate you, but half the LA population is from the east coast, so if I include you you’ll inaccurately skew my results here). Who cares who has what. Be an interesting, bright, decent person. If you refuse to do so, people are going to make fun of you. And re: Glanton’s
“cool kids” comment – no, buddy, others don’t think you’re cool, they think you’re shallow. It’s not the same thing. And Steven, why do you insist on arguing that anyone who disdains LNS is clearly jealous? It’s one of those fallacies that makes no sense. It’s not jealousy, it’s an assessment of unworthiness based on demonstrated LNS behavior and ideology.
That’s what all of us will and should be judged for – our behavior, views, and the other things over which we have control. And I don’t mean to keep picking on Steven, but what was up with claiming the author of the article was “way out of line” publishing LNS names...even if they did “sign a release”? If you’re not willing to protect yourself and monitor your own actions (such as the choice to sign or not sign a legal waiver) then be sure no one else will be willing to. The first comment post I read, and have since mostly forgotten, spouted about responsibility, shame, and suchwhat. Get over it. Take responsibility for the fact that you clearly misjudged the image you were attempting to create. Where you thought others were admiring you or wistfully hoping for an invite to your club, they were laughing at you (which, since, according to its members, LNS is a big joke anyway, should not upset anyone), where you thought you were setting trends with loud, floral sun dresses, deck shoes and Ralph Lauren khakis, your clothes were being snickered at too. Tough. When you play a shallow game, you’ll be judged on shallow grounds.
Since I was born on the west coast, educated on the west coast, and maintain my residence on the west coast (yes, my own brand of snobbery, which I’m happy to address another day), I’ll likely have no one to back me on this little comment board, because, trust me, no one in Seattle or Portland and almost no one in San Francisco will give two shits about this little LNS/DC scene discussion. But that’s fine by me. I’ve put in my $.02 and will now resume my life of working fewer hours, enjoying more free time, and caring far less about my image and social mobility than the folks who’s postings so amused me today.
I’ll be clocking out at 3pm this afternoon, unconcerned with whether I make the next bonus level at my firm and/or impress anyone, and I’ll be returning to my comfy home on the Pacific Ocean...where I’ll only don a pair of deck shoes if I actually step foot on a boat. Oh yes, and I might even let myself balloon up to a size 6 this summer, but I’ll take comfort in knowing that I’m not an actual failure – namely a 35 year old divorcee who relies on an online network for my
social interaction. Yes, this article and the postings that followed made me appreciate my life just a little more than I already did.
You enjoy your day :)
DIE!
Seriously. I can't believe this bollocks is real.
Oh, well. They're all going to be fat in ten years.
Don't care.
Secondly, it shouldn't be surprising something like LNS exists. Across America lots of young people get too drunk, get laid (with the status quo of it being acceptable for boys but not for girls), and do drugs all the time. Georgetown is no exception. Ever heard of alcohol.edu? lots of universities are starting to require their students to take it before they can even enter their freshman year because of the vast problem.
Thirdly, what's the point of writing a commentary if you're not really going to write anything?
Americans need to get with the times and start realizing the obvious, everyone else in the world hates us and we're not really doing much to improve our image, this being article proof of it.
First of all, DC? Please NYC is where the parties and money are at.
"Oh, my ancestor was on the mayflower!"
Who cares? One of my ancestors founded Rhode Island. And two others were officers with Cromwell in his New Model Army against the Crown. Besides, I'm sure alot of people who make pleanty of money come from peasant stock.
"Oh, I went to the Ivy Leauge!"
Who cares? In, the best graduate studies programs there is no correlation between how exclusive a school is and acceptance. They also probably majored in political science. POLITICAL SCIENCE! Peopel who hjad to work in college can laugh with me on that one. Besides if you got in on connections, it doesn't count, your just as dumb as you were before, and if you couldn't get in on merit it doesn't count, you were never smart.
Was the article dishonest, yes, Angela Valdez went over the line a few times. But deep down, its just Petite Bourgeois punks just trying to Ape thier social betters. If they were really cool, it wouldn't matter who they hung out with, they wouldn't follow the trends, they would make them.
What I'm trying to say is, ignore them it doesn't what they think.They are no worse or better than you. They are just people. Besides, they didn't make thier money, thier parents did.
PS Mercedes or BMW? Niether, Bently is where its at and if you can't aford one you aren't rich, no matter what.
MGR, don't you fucking DARE talk shit about pulling out of Iraq and handing Al-Qaeda a victory before you have been IN THAT FUCKING COUNTRY for a single goddamn minute. I was there for the invasion. I was there for over the first goddamn year, for the invasion and subsequent shitstorm; I saw shit that would make your fucking blood curdle in your veins. You pompous ass. Don't you dare jump on that fucking bandwagon. Unless you have seen someone bleed out, holding their own goddamn intestines in their hands and asking "why", don't you even consider asking that question, just to fucking DEFEND yourself against a goddamn third-rate article that paints your elitist club like a bunch of pricks. Are you fucking serious? I can't believe it. I honestly can't wrap my mind around that. And tell me, genius, where is Al-Qaeda in Iraq? Fucking nowhere, is where. Here is the deal, in case you didn't figure this out at your poli-sci courses at UNC...our goal, in Iraq, was not Al-Qaeda. Trust me on this. Our goal was to oust Saddam Hussein, because he had weapons of mass destruction (which, so do we, but who gives a fuck because why should there be any parity in this world?). He was an asshole, sure, I don't contest that. But Al-Qaeda had nothing to do with it. Believe that. We are fighting that war day in and day out because Bush needed a fucking victory, needed some sort of substantial accomplishment to counteract his goddamn ignorance and slutty daughters and what have you; your elitist club is so intent on voting RED over BLUE that you don't realize you are voting on fucking COLORS. Asshole. I swear to Christ, I bet you are an ok guy but you need to fucking think. Even our founding fathers said that a party system would be the downfall of our country, yet you are playing into it fully. Un-fucking-believable. "Hey, I have an idea...let's paint these individuals into certain corners, and then I won't have to think about their actual stances...they are either republicans or democrats, and I can adore/hate accordingly"...Fuck. Do you realize how fucking stupid that is? No, you don't, because you've been sucking a silver spoon like it's a cock for your entire life, and you don't want to see the truth. Man-fucking-up, ass!
YOU PEOPLE ARE FUCKING CUNTS!
cunts!
CUNTS!
YOU ARE FUCKING FUCKED!
I find it telling that one of the most prominent members (the "cougar") is an executive assistant. Lolzer. Lollercoasters. ROFL. Executive Assistant? That's a white collar janitor! except that janitors actually have to be good at their jobs, whereas EA's spend their striver days online, emailing with other strivers. Apparently she got the wrong Mrs. degree in college.
Most of the guys on LNS work in"Thinktanks" or on the hill. How can I be impressed by some little shit making 18K per year as a staff assistant, or 32K once he gets that back promotion to legislative correspondent. "i'm bigtime babeeey". Anyway, i have to go. I need to make sure my Executive Assistant sent that fax up to the hill like I asked her to. She's probably busy texting her striver buds as well. Then I'll have to have her call up to the Hill and make sure the striver staff assistant took teh fax off the machine and put it in the right inbox. Fortunately, she has connections. She fucked that striver staff assistant last night at an LNS event, right after they finished telling each other how important they are. Me? I was at a charity gala at the Willard. Didn't see any LNSers there.
Bitches. buncha bitches. poor bitches. striver bitches. Fake wealth bitches.
As for Otis. Yeah, it's easy to be loved when you're the token black guy. but you ain't rich. not be non-striver standards. and those girls would never bring you home to daddy.
you want to know what prestigious is? you aren't it.
Jealous? Of what? Your style? You can keep your polos, blazers, and boat shoes. I prefer comfort over what people might think of me.
Your money? I'm very proud of the money I make. I would be ashamed to take handouts from my parents.
Your adventures to "poundtown"? I have never heard of anything more immature (especially by 20 somethings that have a 4 year degree or more).
How old are you? Make something of yourselves, dont rely on mom and dad to do it for you, and respect others, which you apparently aren't doing so well accomplishing that either.
So good luck LNS--keep rolling with the upstanding guys.
Is anyone really surprised by this "exclusive club?" They make it sound like fucking white girls is a momentous challenge. Let's not make this seem like a Herculean challenge, because it's not.
As a Midwesterner, I'll take Adams Morgan over G-town anyday. I'm allergic to self-important people. I have a preference for women who know how to stay on rhythm, but that's just me.
A reporter knows she has written something correctly when the target audience starts taking pot shots at her. It only adds validity to her article. 1
GREAT WORK ANGELA - RIP THEIR FUCKING FACES OFF!
BECAUSE THEY SUCK!
BLOW ME!
A most insincere individual.
FUCK YOU!
FUCK YOU LNS cunts
Per haps we ought to consider that Angels is simply doing the same… she is trying (maybe even unknowingly or subconsciously) to provide a better life for those who will come after her (i.e., her children). She has simply chosen to do so by using those already richer than she is. My advice is not to become angry, but to simply use her in return… grind her into the ground, but only for the benefit of those to follow, not for your own.
Wanna go on a date? I don't do anal, but I think I dig your stuff!
I grew up with a bunch of the Southerns, and then I went to high school at an Eastern, and then I went to a college at which there were plenty of both. The Southerns are worse, I think. They're a lot dumber than the Easterns, for one thing.
Anyways, it's all a pretty damn good reason to be a Democrat. Yes, we have our John Kerry (SPS '62) types, but at least we have sufficient good sense to be embarrassed by it.
Although I went to Georgetown, am a Conservative and attended a New England boarding school, I am absolutely embarrassed by the extent to which some of these idiots reinforce the stereotypes of privileged assholes.
You folks ARE STILL COMMENTING ON IT!!!
Entertaining, Yes
But move on!
The authorette needs to get over herself. She's probably happier than a pig in defecation that Obama's in office now.
(Extra thanks to Ted Mcginley)
Got here from HCwDB - best article/comment thread I've read, well, ever.
I'm a state-school educated ex-construction worker who worked his way into the world of publishing. As disconnected as I am from these spoiled, manicured, self-entitled and tasteless rich kids, I've done enough tourism into the world of wealth through friends and business to know that its trappings are just the same ol' shit wrapped up it in 1500 thread count sheets. Eating lunch aside the Governator at the Polo Lounge in Beverly Hills while drinking $15 Grey Goose and tonics, amusing and unusual as it was, did nothing to make me feel more fulfilled or successful as a human being. Nor does an afternoon out on a catamaran, bottle service in the VIP, or a coked out limo ride through the Hollywood Hills with an armed bodyguard in the front seat and strippers in the back. It's just another lame reality show, minus the cameras, editing, and stylists. Not a second of it was exciting or stimulating, just pretty and good smelling.
The people I've met while in situations like this are by and large vapid, self-interested, agenda driven wastes of life who would cut your hamstring to gain position in a charity marathon. Brett Easton Ellis did not write caricatures; that shit is Dead.On.
The article was aiight, but the best bit are the comments by guys like MGR ("they hate because they are jealous. Jealous of our priviledge, jealous of our economic success, jealous of our fun.") and Note to LNSers("Enjoy your crummy Indie music and making minimum wage. When I need your opinion or critique on privilege, I will be sure to give you a ring (and opinion) while I am renting a car and you are filling up my tank.")
We (that is the "they" that MGR refers to) do not hate you because we are covetous haters with khaki-colored dreams of submissive blonds, black Bentlys and houses in Bel-Air and/or The Hamptons.
We hate you because you're so fucking oblivious to why we hate you.
It's a good thing I'm no longer a skinny, broke young punk and am now a strapping, well-off-ish 'hipster' who enjoys cheap beer, 'crummy Indie music' and the occasional alley brawl with just these sort of effete douchebags. It's not especially challenging to kick the shants off of the razor-eyebrowed retard wearing flip-flops to the bar, but man o man is it ever satisfying to stomp on their hairy, manicured little toesies.
I'm living my own Revenge of the Nerds
Guys say stupid things on forums and in bars, doucheyness is not only for the disappointing spawn of conservatives.
I love their obsession with money yet they bitch about giving $15 to a charity. I doubt any of them come from real money. It's the south, people are considered wealthy if they don't live out of a trailer.
I head a lot of prep school names (some good schools) but pretty run of the mill colleges. I know people who went to some of the schools mentioned and they're all attended Ivy League caliber schools. Most of these people also have real careers and have to go into work sober and competent on Friday morning and aren't stupid enough to have drunken photographs of them show up online. I guess even the best schools can't get a moron into a good college.
These people will always dress awful, won't they? This distubs me the most of anything written in the story.I'm sure they wouldn't look as ugly, maybe even attractive if you put some real clothes on them. For the love of god people, get some style. It's the blind leading the blind. This is what happens when you don't let the gays in.
Now that Obama and the democratic majority are in there, the dominant social group is little different, as this town changes with new administrations.
Let me say, though, that as a native Washingtonian, this city has been deeply entrenched with the politics of equality and diversity for generations. The changing demographic of DC needs to get familiar; because our little group, isn't going anywhere. WE WILL EXPOSE YOU. YOU CAN NOT HIDE.
Just an outsider's look in.
Its good entertainment while the rest of us make something worthwhile out of our lives.
Also, "We see them out, they talk shit, we punch them, they go down....it's as simple as that." what kind of meat head thing is that to say, go back to your studio apartment in Clarendon and pop some more steroids, you sound angry.
P.S. My Mom and My Brother Have also committed suicide, My Brother Died May 28th 1999 at the age of 25; and My mom died On March 7th 2008 at the age of 55;. I found both of them "dead" purple, Not breathing. This world sure does seem to me to be a cruel one. And The truth rarely reaches the eyes of the general public. Where was and where is the justice for my family?
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Thank you LNS'ers, I didnt even know this was real.
(Yeah, I wonder how the residents survive, you'd think America would have a much smaller population if a life tougher than absolute privilege=death).
No doubt the "ADAMS MORGAN=ROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD" comments are reasonable strictly from the perspective of someone wearing a $800 suit to a party, someone whose presence would perhaps be "unappreciated" if he showed up in a black neighborhood drunk at night giving all the residents freaked-out stares and angry looks. Man, the average american could never afford to party regularly at Adams Morgan. I don't know whether they're afraid of tourists or whether the upper-middle-class seem threatening them. Seriously, It's like, $4 for a tiny slice of pizza up and down the street. Even the punk music store there, given that its now all sell out 30somethings reminiscing about the early 90s, is swanky.
Like, look, I don't think anyone here hates LNS at all. Far from it. They are just people living it up in their position within our screwed up class pyramid. This pyramid entails a few hundred thousand thousand people getting most of the money and making most of the decisions in gov't and business, and everyone else at the bottom having shitty, disenfranchised lives. The people at the top didn't invent that system, they are just a part of it.
But, you know, it's still nice to sneer at the rich as they stumble over the whole "meritocracy" myths (the ones used to justify the division of wealth) with their own shallow, sheltered thinking and behavior. Not really malicious, just fun and games to watch is all.
Rich people, if you like, you can think of this article as us getting our kicks sitting on our unshaven lawns in our $3 shorts, cheap beer in hand, and talking shit about that neighbor we don't like, our ostentatious masturbatory down-the-district neighbor.
Poor oppressed rich people.
Only commenting to remind everyone that Curtis Ofori is a rapist. Steer clear.
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Being mexican and native american I'm subject to a fair amount of stereotyping. For some reason it's ok for the frat kids to get toasted 3 times a week but if I'm seen having a beer with friends I must be an alcoholic. You know?
You would think my natural inclination would be to look down on these LNS kids, but it's not. I see another group, a sub culture, being stereotyped like any other.
I work for a newspaper, one much larger and more award winning than Ms. Valdez's rag. This is the epitome of tabloid gossip trash. Who do we care if someone hit on her? In journalism the key is always in understanding. I'm sure she might sympathize and give a heart warming message about a vagrant under a bridge - inspiring everyone to see the human behind the rags. But she failed miserably in doing that toward a culture she envies.
These kids are young and full of promise, backed with an upbringing that will insure success and are casualty to their affluence. Money is power, and they've got it. It doesn't make them evil.
The guys are obviously all fags and would get ill if they smelled wet pussy.
The chicks dress like they're in junior high.
Can't wait to go to the next event and wipe my ass with some LNS twits' faces.
DIE ASSHOLES!
They fucking hunger for the big one in the ass. You can tell by the homo shit they fucking wear to their little parties.
Fucking twink fucks.
DIE!
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